Bristol De Mai

same connections as peace and co. could he be going supreme i wonder hes got loads of good juveniles!

Gordon Elliott has another one as well belonging to Munir that he was talking up. One of them could end up in the Supreme alright. Bristol De Mai was impressive though, jumped very well and travelled easy and he's made short work of the best juvenile race run this season.

This horse is the new Peace & Co imvho

Can't have that. Two different sorts. This one in my view will excel in deep winter ground. Peace And Co has more class. It's like comparing a Rolls Royce with a Land Rover.

haha welcome to the net ^^^^

expected better from an experienced forum man

A net within a net and you're tonights dinner.

Expected to be even better on good ground (From the lad who used to ride him in France)

lol

Ddidn't do owt on decent ground in France. Any excuses for that followed by a massive step up when he had deep ground?

Certainly needs to perform away from the deep ground at chepstow.

his French form is hardly conclusive is it? Last in two small field APQS races (one on GS and one on ground which I can't see a description for).

He does have to show he can do it on better ground though - one more race before Festival according to NTD so it's conceivable we could go into the festival none the wiser.

Trainer says hes plenty of class and sees no problem with better ground.
Exciting horse and can see him or peace &  co in the Supreme. Owner has another Juvenile out tmrw - Top Notch, he could make it even more confusing!!

Definitely Budd. Should he win impressively, you would have to believe one will go to the Supreme with the allowance, and two for the Triumph. NJH looks pretty light for the former, so he may well talk the owner into this option for Peace & Co.

They will certainly discuss all options catch.
If timeform are accurate with their 155 then with his allowance hes fav for the supreme right now.
That's timeform ratings though,not something I would wager horses on myself, but IF they are right??

Munir also has Vercingetorix in the first at Limerick today.

Only sharing what I've heard Eeternal, I always trust the formbook more myself as people get attached to their horses and will give positive feedback more often than not, Will see how he goes when he gets better ground in UK, GL.

So owner has yet another contender with Vercingetorix,impressive today.
The plot thickens!!!

Top Notch runs tomorrow too.

yeh mate,never known anything like it with one owner having so many good juveniles.
Wonder if hes got anymore to appear??

Quite extraordinary.

Bet you were pleased with Road To Riches today.

yes mate, very pleased. Just watching it again.
Major player in the Gold Cup for sure.

Should he win impressively, you would have to believe one will go to the Supreme with the allowance, and two for the Triumph. NJH looks pretty light for the former, so he may well talk the owner into this option for Peace & Co.

I never assume anything but I'd be surprised if that's the case. Henderson and the same owners have the second favourite for the Supreme which was impressive and Ascot. Embarrassment of riches getting almost Richyesque.

budd

There's lots of decent sorts have tried to go for the Supreme as a four year old and they nearly all come up short.

Binocular was a fine 2nd, Hors La Loi III won.

Not many possible triumph favourites have contested the supreme.

Not sure weve had one rated this high though mate.

Im just trying to 2nd guess what an owner with 2,3 maybe 4 good juveniles will do with them all,find it interesting talking about it and listening to others opinions.Never really come across this situation with an owner before, not with juveniles anyway.

Completely fascinating. Good job they aren't trained by Mullins.

A salutary lesson Ibrahima. McManus had two seconds that year. I suspect he'd happily trade those in for a chance at one win. Not many trainers win both so if I had two outstanding chances Id run em both in the same race f that was the ideal one for them. To be fair the Supreme might have been the better race for a speed horse like Binocular.

Interesting thought on Peace and Co going for the Supreme. Hendo did do it and go close with Binocular as stated above so he may be keen to try it again if the owners are.

The market suggests not though atm.

He looked like he'd like to go around again over two miles one at Donny and he is a big fella. Who knows with Chemical Nicky though.

Peace & Go just screams speed to me and would do well in the supreme.

I'd agree he'd do well. It is a question of whether they want to take that chance maybe second or third favourite or have a clear favourites chance in the Triumph.

Winners of the Chepstow race haven't done so well in recent years.

chepstow is a stinker but this was his british debut with a trainer who doesnt under race his horses.

It's slightly complicated by the fact that NTD can be a little exuberant about some of his horses. I'd like to see this one on decent ground before committing to a strong view.

NJH is in the worst form at this time of the season that I can ever remember.

Imagine how good P&C could be.....