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21 Nov 14
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Given that he has multiple horses with multiple entries and unless you are connected it is guesswork as to what will run in each, what price would tempt you for him to win them all without naming the actual horse ? Be interested to see what people think is a value price. I have got a couple of quotes that I will share later when people have replied.
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Am a sucker for these type of bets. Logic is he's bound to have atleast two in each of the races and one of them is bound to be a short price favourite or fancied 2nd favourite. Think I would bite at 20/1.
I'd rip your arm off for 20/1………reckon 10's/12's might be the offer. The Layers are scared stiff of Mullins novices at Cheltenham. Might get 20's if you add the Bumper too !
Then HaylingBilly I suggest you get on the blower to WH who let me have 33's this morning for £40. Don't know how much they would lay as that is all I asked for. PP offered 14's, Sky and VC said they could not offer a price and Coral never responded. PP also offered 14's for Mullins to win the Arkle, JLT and RSA ( and said I couldn't do they double ! ). Still waiting for a reply from WH on that one but doubt they go 33's for that.
Happy with 20's?! That would mean you were backing him to win each race individually at around 7-4. Way too short surely?
My intial reaction was that I'd want 50's plus I reckon.
33-1 means you are getting around 5-2 for him win each race individually, which doesnt scream value, but is probably a fun bet
My intial reaction was that I'd want 50's plus I reckon.
33-1 means you are getting around 5-2 for him win each race individually, which doesnt scream value, but is probably a fun bet
Remember CCM you will have more then one fancied horse running for you in each race. 33/1 is a great and fun bet ive just e-mailed Mr Hills for quote. But every year Mullins has atleast one hot pot that fails to sparkle. Worth a few quid don't even have to worry about which race what will run etc.
Same price 33's for the novice chase treble with WH
Seriously people enough already with the WM hype. Vautour and Faugheen were two exceptional novices hurdles that just happened to be running in the same season. The odds of having 2 more like them is massive, not alone 3.
Factoid: Bar last year the accumulated SP odds of the shortest priced WM horses in those 3 races was 100/1 or more.
This is AP gone wild.
Factoid: Bar last year the accumulated SP odds of the shortest priced WM horses in those 3 races was 100/1 or more.
This is AP gone wild.
Start off with a £1 on the first day of the festival last March and back Vautour, lets use the 7/2 SP.
He wins and you've got £4.50. Put all that money on Faugheen on Wednesday at 6/4 SP and you've now got £11.25. On Friday put that on Briar Hill 2/1 SP and the bet is over. If he won you would have returned £33.75 from your original £1 stake.
3 short price favourites, rolling them over on the day of race when you know what you're betting on and all the form is in the book would have given you almost 33/1 odds.
Just save your money for the day and have some exotic multiples when you know what's running where imo.
He wins and you've got £4.50. Put all that money on Faugheen on Wednesday at 6/4 SP and you've now got £11.25. On Friday put that on Briar Hill 2/1 SP and the bet is over. If he won you would have returned £33.75 from your original £1 stake.
3 short price favourites, rolling them over on the day of race when you know what you're betting on and all the form is in the book would have given you almost 33/1 odds.
Just save your money for the day and have some exotic multiples when you know what's running where imo.
33s looking pretty good imo with those that have run so far. Shaneshill, Tell Us More, Douvan, Black Hercules and probably a few more like Allez Colombieres to come out yet.
its on their site now, but only 20s. 33s was defo fair price with possible 2nd strings running for you
17.75/1 last year at ISP with only one representative in AB & Neptune. 33/1 was a very decent price.
WPM has frequently had multiple runners in the supreme (remember Ebaziyan winning it at a big price)
Perhaps more of a chance this year of multiple runners in the AB & Neptune because of contenders like tell us more.
Gigginstown runners increase the likelyhood of multiple runners in these races because of the influence Ruby Walsh has in the selection process.
Much more likely to see a Giggy and Ricci contender in the same race than Ricci and Wyley representatives contesting the same race,
WPM has frequently had multiple runners in the supreme (remember Ebaziyan winning it at a big price)
Perhaps more of a chance this year of multiple runners in the AB & Neptune because of contenders like tell us more.
Gigginstown runners increase the likelyhood of multiple runners in these races because of the influence Ruby Walsh has in the selection process.
Much more likely to see a Giggy and Ricci contender in the same race than Ricci and Wyley representatives contesting the same race,
Mullins ran Vautour (7/2), Wicklow Brave (8/1) and Valseur Lido (16/1) in the Supreme. In the Neptune Faugheen, (6/4,) and Rathvinden, (11/2,) represented Closutton. Briar Hill (2/1) was his lone runner in the Albert Bartlett. 6/4 5/6 and 2/1 treble at sp last r[13/1]
I am certainly siding with him having a lower score.
The 33's not looking too bad now for both bets. Hopefully both will still be going tomorrow !
The novice chaser bet is looking rather good value at the moment, as you say lets hope it looks as good in 70 minutes time.
The bad news is
No more Heroes is waiting to demolish those chances
No more Heroes is waiting to demolish those chances
Hurdle treble and down but Chase treble has a very live chance of collecting. Two runners, Vautour and Valseur Lito, both with chances. Come on Willie !
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