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CheltenhamRoar
10 Mar 14 00:09
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Has never ran,Never mind won over 3 miles,And comes up against the best staying hurdler we've seen in years.
if Ruby was on Big Bucks He'd be a 6/4 shot,Madness.
How can anybody genuinely justify her been this sort?

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ACE JACK DOUBLE SUITED
When: 10 Mar 14 00:31
wont be in the first three
By:
judorick
When: 10 Mar 14 00:39
I believe Solwhit had never tried 3 miles before he won last year so it can be done

saying that I will be betting against her
By:
jasey
When: 10 Mar 14 01:06
Winning a slow pace race in Ireland over 3 mile against trees would prove she stays would it?
By:
Tucho
When: 10 Mar 14 01:20
is 7/4 that short?

not saying she's a cert or anything, but i'd expect a lot shorter on thursday tbh
By:
xaar
When: 10 Mar 14 01:24
people within racing are saying she is a machine ruby has been heard saying shes the best hes ridden male or female,maybe all hype but looks a machine big bucks is finish hopefully he runs well but be his biggest victory if he managed to win,bookies aren't giving 11-4 on a four time champion for no reason
By:
pedrobob
When: 10 Mar 14 01:57
ruby has been heard saying shes the best hes ridden male or female

if that is correct, Mullins / Walsh telling Ricci not to run in Champion Hurdle must have been an interesting conversation
By:
pedrobob
When: 10 Mar 14 01:57
ruby has been heard saying shes the best hes ridden male or female

if that is correct, Mullins / Walsh telling Ricci not to run in Champion Hurdle must have been an interesting conversation
By:
sc1883
When: 10 Mar 14 07:33
Never run over 3 miles and up against an all time staying great, sounds like a comment from when Inglis Drever ran in its first world hurdle, the rest is history as we say!!!!
By:
buddeliea
When: 10 Mar 14 07:51
She stays,she will p!ss this imo.
Don't think any horse could give her weight,let alone an ageing horse come back from injury.
By:
jasey
When: 10 Mar 14 07:57
Forgot about Inglis so thats  2 out the last 3 winners of this race had never ran over 3 mile.
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 10 Mar 14 08:15
Big Bucks is finish? Sure he's English to be honest no?
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 10 Mar 14 09:24
ruby has been heard saying shes the best hes ridden male or female

He thinks she's better than Kauto Star? His memory can't be too clever then.

Come back in 2018 when she's won 2 Gold Cups and 5 King Geoge's (or Lexus if she prefers). Kauto never ran in a World Hurdle.
By:
windsor knot
When: 10 Mar 14 09:31
straight for the throat rease !  fair point indeed.
By:
jasey
When: 10 Mar 14 09:58
Rease:
Denman never won anything like what Kauto did but imo Denman was a better horse.
Kauto stayed fit and healthy for a long time.Annie could be 50 times better than Kauto and still not get close to what he won
By:
pedrobob
When: 10 Mar 14 10:12
ATR - Big Buck's is in "seriously good order" according to trainer Paul Nicholls as he bids to land the Ladbrokes World Hurdle for a fifth time at Cheltenham on Thursday.

Speaking at a forum after racing at Sandown on Saturday, the former champion trainer disagreed with owner Andy Stewart, who felt the 11-year-old had "fluffed his lines" when beaten by Knockara Beau in the Cleeve Hurdle in January.

It was his first start after 420 injury-enforced days off and he went down by three-quarters of a length, ending his winning streak at 18.

Nicholls said: "I disagree with Andy. I don't think he fluffed his lines at Cheltenham. He needed the run quite obviously on very bad ground and he had been off for a long time. I've trained him with one race in mind.

"If it had been a normal year, he'd have run at Newbury in November (Long Distance Hurdle) where we normally start the season off. I wanted him to have a hard race to see where we were with him - and if he was going to get to Cheltenham we needed a hard race.

"Sam Twiston-Davies did exactly as I wanted him to do - you ride a stayer like a stayer, you don't ride a stayer like a sprinter - and he had the race won jumping the last, but just got tired.

"I walked the course that day just before we had all those thunderstorms and the ground from the back of the last to the winning post was virtually unraceable, and he just got tired.

"He's had seven weeks since then. He's bloomed, he looks fantastic and is a lot lighter. He had a good gallop at Exeter the other day and he's schooled well. I'm very happy with him and the one thing he'll enjoy is the drying ground.

"All his best wins have been on good or good to soft, so the omens are good with the weather, he looks great and I'm very much looking forward to the challenge of the race."



Sounds like Nicholls isn't planning on it being a sprint for Annie's first try over 3m. She will have to win it with stamina.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 10 Mar 14 10:14
denman better than kauto, annie could be 50 times better than kauto Crazy
By:
PeteTheBloke
When: 10 Mar 14 10:44
Staying fit and sound is part of being a great horse. Surely?
By:
GI MAC
When: 10 Mar 14 10:45
Nicholls/Stewart have two other others in the race to ensure it's no crawl and AP will be tested, plus trainer has a fourth runner in Zarkander. Tactics from the stable will be fascinating. Ruby knows them all also. Fascinating race, cannot wait.
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 10 Mar 14 12:50
Staying fit and sound is part of being a great horse. Surely?

precisely, the only objective measure of who's the best is achievement - everything else is just subjective opinion.

I probably preferred watching Denman at his peak to watching Kauto, his second Hennessy win had to be seen to be believed but Kauto's longevity sets him apart (especially as a French Bred - see Long Run and - probably -Sprinter Sacre). 

The mare is obviously very talented, I doubt Ruby said she's the best he's ridden - or if he did it's been taken out of context - because it's a bit like saying Ross Barclay is better than Cristiano Ronaldo.

Let's see her win some Grade 1 and Championship races, then we can say how great she is.
By:
CheltenhamRoar
When: 10 Mar 14 16:02
Judo,Solwhit did indeed win this race last year having never won over 3 miles previously,But his price reflected that,Thats the whole point of my op Crazy
By:
CheltenhamRoar
When: 10 Mar 14 16:07
Just to reiterate,She's never won over 3 miles,and has never won a Grade 1 against the opposite sex and is coming up against a champion stayer,Yet she's as short as 7/4 ?
What am i missing here??apart from all the fools who listen to the bullshíte been spouted that she's the best ever blah blah blah,We hear that every year.
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