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FOYLESWAR
02 Mar 14 10:37
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henessey winner triolo d aliene will go for the gold cup nicky Henderson said after the 7 yo worked well last week Happy

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By:
ashleigh
When: 02 Mar 14 10:40
given decent ground,must be worth a e/w bet.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 02 Mar 14 10:47
took some big prices a while back and when it drifted right out midweek  thought the bet was down the ,at least it looks as though I will get a run !
By:
Ramruma
When: 02 Mar 14 10:47
I'd rather he waited for the Grand National, where he has a chance, than ran here to give the owners a day out.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 02 Mar 14 10:54
Cool

Never a day out for the owners, he needs to be gold cup class to  win the grand national off his high weight. On good ground he could go close in the gold cup.
By:
colupaul
When: 02 Mar 14 11:28
Fair play to those who got on big last week... all the talk was of the Bryne Plate then a crack at the Nat... probably a bit of a overreaction by the books to the latest news... 40s - 50s on the day maybe if all main protagonists hold their ground?
By:
Ramruma
When: 02 Mar 14 11:41
Triolo has never won on an undulating course like Chelters, and the risk is he'll jar himself up before Aintree.
By:
jasey
When: 02 Mar 14 11:49
The Gold cup is the easier assignment.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 02 Mar 14 12:01
hendo said he worked really well this morning^^^^
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 02 Mar 14 12:02
I wonder who will get the ride, i hope it is not tinkler.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 02 Mar 14 12:07
lightly raced ,improving ,and the step up from handicapper to grade winner is not insurmountable a la synchronised ,
By:
ashleigh
When: 02 Mar 14 12:08
ap mccoy looks available?
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 02 Mar 14 12:08
I would say the best available ............whats  ruby and ap riding ?
By:
mary hinge
When: 02 Mar 14 12:09
Is it a negative sign towards BW?
By:
GI MAC
When: 02 Mar 14 12:09
^ absolutely, a thorough stayer and can easily see him running a big race, if its good ground.
By:
jasey
When: 02 Mar 14 12:09
Aint he on T43 if he runs
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 02 Mar 14 12:10
think he committed to T43 but i guess that could change, Maybe Ruby could ride as Mullins only has one entered.
By:
GI MAC
When: 02 Mar 14 12:11
I can see AP switching to TDA
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 02 Mar 14 12:12
a price crash in the offing if ap or ruby get the leg up !
By:
Ramruma
When: 02 Mar 14 12:18
Has he had a wind op since Henderson said he had wind problems?

Triolo has raced four times on courses with uphill finishes and lost every time, which fits with a breathing problem.
By:
jasey
When: 02 Mar 14 12:18
What price is he?
By:
Ramruma
When: 02 Mar 14 12:21
What's in it for AP? He won't keep the ride at Aintree.
By:
ashleigh
When: 02 Mar 14 12:23
ramruma, you sound desperate not for it to run, why?
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 02 Mar 14 12:25
He won the Hennessy off 147, Bob's won it off 160 and is 5/5 at Cheltenham.

Appreciate that's all catered for in the price and he deserves to take his chance on good ground, not least because he might not necessarily get his ground at Aintree.
By:
jasey
When: 02 Mar 14 12:28
Don't think the the op is saying he is going to win.
By:
Ramruma
When: 02 Mar 14 12:38
@ashleigh -- ramruma, you sound desperate not for it to run, why?

Just trying to stop people getting carried away. The formbook says he can't win the Gold Cup (not good enough and won't act on the track) whereas he can win the Grand National. Until this piece of work, connections were talking about the Plate which is a long way below Gold Cup class.

I can see why connections are tempted -- Bobs Worth apart, it looks a weak Gold Cup -- but imo he'll just risk leaving the National behind at Cheltenham.
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 02 Mar 14 12:43
it's possible, especially given only just over three weeks between the races this year...

However T43 running in Gold Cup as prep for National and Mullins stated in RP yday that he's considering running Boston Bob in Gold Cup to aim for top 4 finish to qualify for National.

I guess it depends on the horse.
By:
jasey
When: 02 Mar 14 13:22
National is an afterthought and has he got  much choice of races to run in other than graded races.
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 02 Mar 14 13:31
^ which horse?

Thinking about it, Triolo D'Alene could've run over 3m 2f at Donny yesterday and got his ground and prep run for the National in - think he was entered at 5 day stage.

They now risk going to National without a prep run or possibly having a hard race in the Gold Cup.

Perhaps they believe he's improved sufficiently to be really competitive in Gold Cup.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 02 Mar 14 13:36
just thinking about that "bit of work" this morning hendo said triolo worked really well ! we were delighted with him ,we have to go somewhere with him and the gold cup is wide open this year . bobs worth also worked on the mandown gallop and he is another who worked well .
would say it wont have been a  taxing a gallop but he sounds especially upbeat about triolo and reckon his price will be in the teens come raceday .
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 02 Mar 14 15:48
into 22 on here now !
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 08 Mar 14 08:35
crazy price now, i know he loves fast ground etc.

my 150 odds are looking nice now, but for betfairs incompetence it would be near 1000.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 08 Mar 14 09:26
yeah nice bet Ibrahima  am on at 48 and 50 and am happy ,rocky creek out now and room for triolo to shorten further especially if last ins  don't line up ,heard a rumour that triolo worked all over bobs  but wheather he can do it on the racecourse isa another matter , we all know bobs loves the track but not easy to retain a gold cup ,
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 08 Mar 14 09:44
the price certainly indicates someone/connections are confident.

good luck foyleswar
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 08 Mar 14 10:17
ibrahima  you trading your stake out ? or are you letting it ride ?
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 08 Mar 14 10:23
letting it ride as i will be backing bobs worth to win on the day, he only has BW & SC to beat imho.

& for me SC beat 2 non stayers in the KG and last season i took the view that he would not had finished in the first 3 in the gc. different i know.
By:
jasey
When: 08 Mar 14 10:39
He has been putting Bobs Worth in his place in training.
By:
Fabulous
When: 08 Mar 14 10:44
GL Foyles and Sonko, 110's to 290's for me, really hopeful of a run for my money.
By:
judorick
When: 08 Mar 14 10:50
as it turns out, SC beat a horse that was injured in the King George as Cue Card almost certainly fractured his pelvis in the race and would probably have won had he not

which makes the King George form look even worse imo
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 08 Mar 14 10:59
not sure a horse can not show a sign of a cracked pelvis for 3 months imho.
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