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What happens if Fenton found guilty??
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Tullow Tank drifting on here and one of my main hopes for the meeting...if Fenton found guilty then yard shut down with immediate effect?
Why does racing keep ****g itself up time after time?
However still remains innocent until proven guilty
Why does racing keep ****g itself up time after time?
However still remains innocent until proven guilty
Are you expecting a verdict on Thursday?
More than likely it will be adjourned.
More than likely it will be adjourned.
Not sure he would fancy being interviewed by the press or that the TV press would want to interview him should he get a winner for that matter
I doubt if any of his horses will turn up now
I doubt if any of his horses will turn up now
He has been charged with having unlicensed animal medication on his premesis not with administering any banned substance. The authorities in Ireland were quick to confirm that no positive doping tests have been recorded. I think this will be a fairly minor indiscretion in the grand scheme of things. Was there not a govt vet in Ireland done for something very similar and he was ordered to pay a few hundred euro to charity after pleading guilty. Lets hold off with the hanging judge and jury for now.
innocent until proven guilty is the law, any withdrawals will certainly arouse suspicion.
I wonder what prompted the Department of Agriculture inspection in the first place and why the first two court hearings went unreported yet this all comes to light now after his recent high profile successes.
Withdrawals would indeed arouse suspicion but a Gold Cup winner from a stable with a case like this hanging over them would not be great PR for racing either.
Withdrawals would indeed arouse suspicion but a Gold Cup winner from a stable with a case like this hanging over them would not be great PR for racing either.
A case in which well-known racehorse trainer Patrick Hughes is accused of possession of unauthorised animal remedies was adjourned to December 18th, at Carlow District Court yesterday.
A separate case against the trainer’s brother, retired Department of Agriculture veterinary inspector John Hughes, was dismissed “on its merits” after evidence was given that John Hughes had made a donation of €10,000 to Kilkenny Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Animals and agreed to pay court costs of €3,000 as well as witness costs of €100.
John Hughes had agreed to make the donation and pay court costs at an earlier hearing in October, where he admitted possession of five unauthorised animal remedies, including a substance called Nitrotain Oral Paste.
At the District Court in Carlow yesterday State solicitor Alan Millard said separate cases, involving charges of possession of unauthorised animal remedies, against both Patrick Hughes and his brother John Hughes were before the court.
Adjournment
Donnachadh McCarthy, counsel for the Department of Agriculture, told Judge Patrick Clyne the department was the complainant in both cases, and consented to the adjournment in the case of Patrick Hughes, until the 18th of this month.
In relation to John Hughes, Mr McCarthy told the court the department viewed the possession of unauthorised animal remedies as a serious offence, and all the more serious when the accused was a vet, and a former departmental veterinary inspector.
However Tristan Lynas of solicitors Poe Kiely Hogan Lanigan told Judge Clyne the €10,000 had been paid to the animal charity and costs and expenses also covered. He asked that Probation Act not be applied, but that the case be dismissed “on its merits”.
Mr Lynas said John Hughes was 70 and had not offended before and was unlikely to come to the court’s attention in the future. He said Mr Hughes had adult children in Australia whom he may want to visit in the future, and he asked the court not to apply the Probation Act, as it might impact on any travel plans. He asked Judge Clyne to dismiss the case “on its merits”.
Mr McCarthy asked Judge Clyne to apply the Probation Act.
Judge Clyne said the original case had not been heard by him, but it appeared he had to make a decision that clearly came down to either applying the Probation Act or the dismissing the case on its merits.
He said he was dismissing the case on its merits.
A separate case against the trainer’s brother, retired Department of Agriculture veterinary inspector John Hughes, was dismissed “on its merits” after evidence was given that John Hughes had made a donation of €10,000 to Kilkenny Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Animals and agreed to pay court costs of €3,000 as well as witness costs of €100.
John Hughes had agreed to make the donation and pay court costs at an earlier hearing in October, where he admitted possession of five unauthorised animal remedies, including a substance called Nitrotain Oral Paste.
At the District Court in Carlow yesterday State solicitor Alan Millard said separate cases, involving charges of possession of unauthorised animal remedies, against both Patrick Hughes and his brother John Hughes were before the court.
Adjournment
Donnachadh McCarthy, counsel for the Department of Agriculture, told Judge Patrick Clyne the department was the complainant in both cases, and consented to the adjournment in the case of Patrick Hughes, until the 18th of this month.
In relation to John Hughes, Mr McCarthy told the court the department viewed the possession of unauthorised animal remedies as a serious offence, and all the more serious when the accused was a vet, and a former departmental veterinary inspector.
However Tristan Lynas of solicitors Poe Kiely Hogan Lanigan told Judge Clyne the €10,000 had been paid to the animal charity and costs and expenses also covered. He asked that Probation Act not be applied, but that the case be dismissed “on its merits”.
Mr Lynas said John Hughes was 70 and had not offended before and was unlikely to come to the court’s attention in the future. He said Mr Hughes had adult children in Australia whom he may want to visit in the future, and he asked the court not to apply the Probation Act, as it might impact on any travel plans. He asked Judge Clyne to dismiss the case “on its merits”.
Mr McCarthy asked Judge Clyne to apply the Probation Act.
Judge Clyne said the original case had not been heard by him, but it appeared he had to make a decision that clearly came down to either applying the Probation Act or the dismissing the case on its merits.
He said he was dismissing the case on its merits.
I believe it would come down to the BHA - considering how they dealt with MAZ, they'll not look kindly on our lot turning the other cheek. Can see them invoking some clause if he's found guilty and put under investigation.
fairly common practice in most areas that you are temp. suspended if there is an active investigation against you.
fairly common practice in most areas that you are temp. suspended if there is an active investigation against you.
also lol at E O'Leary invoking the 'colic' strawman argument ... we have to wait and see what form the stanazol was in, given their bullishness they might have a vet to take the rap.
my feeling overall is that with Aus, US and the UAE recently coming into line, it would be too rich to let him saddle runners when it was 'our' (GB+Ire) insistence on common rules - the BHA won't let it, and it's their decision.
Presumably, those horses would only be prevented from running if they themselves tested positive for a banned substance?
If Fenton was banned it surely wouldn't be that difficult to find another trainer at short notice?
At the moment he hasn't been found guilty so it is probably not worth worrying unduly at this stage.
If Fenton was banned it surely wouldn't be that difficult to find another trainer at short notice?
At the moment he hasn't been found guilty so it is probably not worth worrying unduly at this stage.
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