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Howdi
16 Feb 14 13:07
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That you have in your mind for Cheltenham?

11th May 2013 - Punchestown - Faugheen beating Josses Hill by 22 lengths in a National Hunt Flat race.   Shocked (nearly won the tolworth!)

(NB/ Also like Captain Cutter beating of Kings Palace in a flat race too & Red Sherlocks subsequent beating of Captain Cutter)

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sintonian
When: 16 Feb 14 13:12
I like to compare like for like so comparing bumper form with hurdles form just doesn't do it for me.

Calipto's novice hurdle form from Newbury has worked out very well.

Call me biased but Many Clouds novice chase debut, and 3rd chase run, have both worked out well.
By:
Howdi
When: 16 Feb 14 13:17
Just what does it for you please, not commenting on the post above....
By:
sintonian
When: 16 Feb 14 13:20
Like for like form Howdi. Two races stand out for me but I have backed them both so!!
By:
Howdi
When: 16 Feb 14 13:21
HappyGood lad.
By:
wellchief
When: 16 Feb 14 13:22
Would have to be Wonderful Charm just going down to Oscar Whisky giving lumps of weight.  Oscar and Taquin have won a couple of races since, so I'd say Wonderful Charm is still a decent price for the Jewson, especially if it dries up.
By:
Howdi
When: 16 Feb 14 13:22
This thread if we keep it short and sweet , will also help bring us all up to speed and may allow us to become aware of form we were not aware of etc.......
By:
Howdi
When: 16 Feb 14 13:23
Nice one chief.....more more...
By:
sintonian
When: 16 Feb 14 13:27
would actually be good to put them all in some small eachway multiples.

I think Vautour's first or second run has worked out pretty well too?
By:
Howdi
When: 16 Feb 14 13:28
^^^ good idea but if anyone wins a million please remember it was me and sint who started this Plain
By:
CVByrne
When: 16 Feb 14 13:57
Hurricane Fly beating rampant Triumph winner Our Conor. Everything was there for him to lose, he had a troubled prep, he made a mistake at the last and was headed yet he still found more gears and won despite giving his rival 2lbs to boot. Jezki in the field represents a line to the Supreme form from last season too.

Of all the races run this season, that was the best piece of form given the circumstances. For me anyway.


I also likd Vautour & Ballycasey both beating grade 1 winners in a grade 1 on their latest starts. Smart form that.


What's odd is I can't think of any real standout bit of form in England. Confused I'd say King George but Cue Card needs better ground than that to show his best and Al Ferof is showing the form is nothing special really.
By:
Arklearkle
When: 16 Feb 14 14:03
Last Installment's last run.
By:
GAZO
When: 16 Feb 14 14:06
would agree with hurricane fly with the only slight doubt being got a nagging feeling that our conor has been aimed at one race all season(but then so could hurricane fly) and in england possibly irving after the betfair hurdle
By:
gutfeeling
When: 16 Feb 14 14:10
Wicklow Brave beating of Western Boy giving him 10lbs looks good in relation to how it made Vautour pull out all the stops at levels.
By:
CVByrne
When: 16 Feb 14 14:26
I find is hilarious that people think Our Conor has been aimed at only one race and Hurricane Fly hasn't. It's utter nonsense. If you are going for a 3rd Champion Hurdle with a horse who probably won't get another chance to win it you are clearly aiming to peak at one race.
By:
seary
When: 16 Feb 14 22:43
Kings palace romp in mid December at cheltenham grade 2 novice hurdle...most visually impressive performance of a novice i have seen in the uk and across the water this season
By:
Haemolysis
When: 16 Feb 14 23:20
I was impressed by O'Faolains Boy yesterday. Can't understand why it was still 20s earlier today for the RSA. So I had some!
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 16 Feb 14 23:30
CV Byrne you are obsessed with Hurricane Fly man.lol....think if he loses you'll need a trip to A&E!! seriously erm Bobs Worth in Lexus just whizzed away with ease as did Silvi from Cue Card in King George.
By:
ThunderRoad
When: 17 Feb 14 12:22
Last Instalment in the Lexus. 175 performance IMO. Will beat Bobs Worth if the ground is soft
By:
buddeliea
When: 17 Feb 14 12:40
Last Instalment trouncing First Lieutenant.
Should be Gold Cup fav on that!!
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 17 Feb 14 12:49
Will be his 3rd race in 3 months next month after the long lay off
By:
alleged22
When: 17 Feb 14 12:50
it has to be the consistency of the spin coming from the mullins yard for me Wink

a career in politics beckons should he ever retire from training racehorses....
By:
sintonian
When: 17 Feb 14 12:53
Last Instalment is shaping up to be a place lay on Good to Soft, imo. Loves the Heavy stuff.
By:
buddeliea
When: 17 Feb 14 12:54
Laugh
By:
buddeliea
When: 17 Feb 14 12:56
laughing at alleged there
By:
duffy
When: 17 Feb 14 13:11
Definitely Last Instalment.
By:
sintonian
When: 17 Feb 14 13:52
Forgive me for being a muppet here but are we not talking about races where the form has actually been franked? Nothing from the Last Instalment race has run since. If we are going strictly on the form book then other races looks more favourable in terms of this exercise.
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duffy
When: 17 Feb 14 14:00
Nothing has run since but if you take First Lieutenant as a yardstick compared to Bobs Worth's performance against him, and particularly remember the very favourable reaction to BW's performance in beating him a length and a half and then compare that to what LI did to him, then it is impressive.
By:
ThunderRoad
When: 17 Feb 14 14:15
Tidal Bay's an even more reliable yardstick IMO. Has run in some hot handicaps off marks in the 160's and gone very close. Last Instalment's performance has to be 175+ on that basis
By:
sintonian
When: 17 Feb 14 14:15
Yeah but you've not mentioned the ground there Duffy.
By:
duffy
When: 17 Feb 14 14:24
Fair enough, soft/heavy, but we'll just have to look at the race in isolation as like you said, nothings come out since, and when something does it may be quicker ground....but agree his performance may well be exaggerated because of the ground....I'll change the thread title a bit....

What is the single most visually impressive piece of form in recent months?Wink
By:
differentdrum
When: 17 Feb 14 14:27
Last Instalment. It was great to see a horse attacking a race rather than just picking up the pieces. 

Plenty of people want to knock him but I suspect plenty of those who do didn't have enough faith to take the big odds NRNB.

It is still quite a big 'if' about him running in the Gold Cup but if he does I suspect he won't be waving a white flag as readily as those in behind Bob's Worth last year.

There really haven't been that many 'big' performances this year, particularly in the novice divisions, hence the open nature of many of the markets.
By:
duffy
When: 17 Feb 14 14:29
It was the best piece of jumping all season by a mile in my book.
By:
oufies pal
When: 17 Feb 14 14:42
Thought Pearl Castle looked very good at Donny last month. Admittedly getting loads of weight from older rivals he opened an 18 length gap over the remainder (finished close enough to each other)from the last home.Visually very impressive and entered there again on Wednesday next in a four year old only contest. Trained by John Quinn so no worries on the trainer score.
By:
duffy
When: 17 Feb 14 14:44
vautour would probably be up there, cosy defeat of a twice grade 1 winner.
By:
ThunderRoad
When: 17 Feb 14 15:09
Sire De Grugu's latest win got to be an honourable mention too, even if the race did fall into his hands. If the ground's soft on CC day, he'll push Spinter Sacre very close.
By:
ThunderRoad
When: 17 Feb 14 15:09
*y
By:
Tractor
When: 17 Feb 14 17:36
Zamdy Man beating Un Temps Pour Tout at Haydock could be right up there come the end of Cheltenham, any one agree??
By:
chief dan
When: 17 Feb 14 18:34
Wicklow brave form looks mint to me the beating of western boy giving him lumps of weight agree with u on that gutfeeling all the way and im on at nice double figures got to go close to his stablemate.
By:
corruptus in extremus
When: 17 Feb 14 20:06
Has to be Vautours beating of the tullow tank.Like Carl Lewis actually beating Ben Johnson!!
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