I like to compare like for like so comparing bumper form with hurdles form just doesn't do it for me.
Calipto's novice hurdle form from Newbury has worked out very well.
Call me biased but Many Clouds novice chase debut, and 3rd chase run, have both worked out well.
I like to compare like for like so comparing bumper form with hurdles form just doesn't do it for me.Calipto's novice hurdle form from Newbury has worked out very well.Call me biased but Many Clouds novice chase debut, and 3rd chase run, have both wo
Would have to be Wonderful Charm just going down to Oscar Whisky giving lumps of weight. Oscar and Taquin have won a couple of races since, so I'd say Wonderful Charm is still a decent price for the Jewson, especially if it dries up.
Would have to be Wonderful Charm just going down to Oscar Whisky giving lumps of weight. Oscar and Taquin have won a couple of races since, so I'd say Wonderful Charm is still a decent price for the Jewson, especially if it dries up.
This thread if we keep it short and sweet , will also help bring us all up to speed and may allow us to become aware of form we were not aware of etc.......
This thread if we keep it short and sweet , will also help bring us all up to speed and may allow us to become aware of form we were not aware of etc.......
Hurricane Fly beating rampant Triumph winner Our Conor. Everything was there for him to lose, he had a troubled prep, he made a mistake at the last and was headed yet he still found more gears and won despite giving his rival 2lbs to boot. Jezki in the field represents a line to the Supreme form from last season too.
Of all the races run this season, that was the best piece of form given the circumstances. For me anyway.
I also likd Vautour & Ballycasey both beating grade 1 winners in a grade 1 on their latest starts. Smart form that.
What's odd is I can't think of any real standout bit of form in England. I'd say King George but Cue Card needs better ground than that to show his best and Al Ferof is showing the form is nothing special really.
Hurricane Fly beating rampant Triumph winner Our Conor. Everything was there for him to lose, he had a troubled prep, he made a mistake at the last and was headed yet he still found more gears and won despite giving his rival 2lbs to boot. Jezki in t
would agree with hurricane fly with the only slight doubt being got a nagging feeling that our conor has been aimed at one race all season(but then so could hurricane fly) and in england possibly irving after the betfair hurdle
would agree with hurricane fly with the only slight doubt being got a nagging feeling that our conor has been aimed at one race all season(but then so could hurricane fly) and in england possibly irving after the betfair hurdle
I find is hilarious that people think Our Conor has been aimed at only one race and Hurricane Fly hasn't. It's utter nonsense. If you are going for a 3rd Champion Hurdle with a horse who probably won't get another chance to win it you are clearly aiming to peak at one race.
I find is hilarious that people think Our Conor has been aimed at only one race and Hurricane Fly hasn't. It's utter nonsense. If you are going for a 3rd Champion Hurdle with a horse who probably won't get another chance to win it you are clearly aim
Kings palace romp in mid December at cheltenham grade 2 novice hurdle...most visually impressive performance of a novice i have seen in the uk and across the water this season
Kings palace romp in mid December at cheltenham grade 2 novice hurdle...most visually impressive performance of a novice i have seen in the uk and across the water this season
CV Byrne you are obsessed with Hurricane Fly man.lol....think if he loses you'll need a trip to A&E!! seriously erm Bobs Worth in Lexus just whizzed away with ease as did Silvi from Cue Card in King George.
CV Byrne you are obsessed with Hurricane Fly man.lol....think if he loses you'll need a trip to A&E!! seriously erm Bobs Worth in Lexus just whizzed away with ease as did Silvi from Cue Card in King George.
it has to be the consistency of the spin coming from the mullins yard for me
a career in politics beckons should he ever retire from training racehorses....
it has to be the consistency of the spin coming from the mullins yard for me a career in politics beckons should he ever retire from training racehorses....
Forgive me for being a muppet here but are we not talking about races where the form has actually been franked? Nothing from the Last Instalment race has run since. If we are going strictly on the form book then other races looks more favourable in terms of this exercise.
Forgive me for being a muppet here but are we not talking about races where the form has actually been franked? Nothing from the Last Instalment race has run since. If we are going strictly on the form book then other races looks more favourable in t
Nothing has run since but if you take First Lieutenant as a yardstick compared to Bobs Worth's performance against him, and particularly remember the very favourable reaction to BW's performance in beating him a length and a half and then compare that to what LI did to him, then it is impressive.
Nothing has run since but if you take First Lieutenant as a yardstick compared to Bobs Worth's performance against him, and particularly remember the very favourable reaction to BW's performance in beating him a length and a half and then compare tha
Tidal Bay's an even more reliable yardstick IMO. Has run in some hot handicaps off marks in the 160's and gone very close. Last Instalment's performance has to be 175+ on that basis
Tidal Bay's an even more reliable yardstick IMO. Has run in some hot handicaps off marks in the 160's and gone very close. Last Instalment's performance has to be 175+ on that basis
Fair enough, soft/heavy, but we'll just have to look at the race in isolation as like you said, nothings come out since, and when something does it may be quicker ground....but agree his performance may well be exaggerated because of the ground....I'll change the thread title a bit....
What is the single most visually impressive piece of form in recent months?
Fair enough, soft/heavy, but we'll just have to look at the race in isolation as like you said, nothings come out since, and when something does it may be quicker ground....but agree his performance may well be exaggerated because of the ground....I'
Last Instalment. It was great to see a horse attacking a race rather than just picking up the pieces.
Plenty of people want to knock him but I suspect plenty of those who do didn't have enough faith to take the big odds NRNB.
It is still quite a big 'if' about him running in the Gold Cup but if he does I suspect he won't be waving a white flag as readily as those in behind Bob's Worth last year.
There really haven't been that many 'big' performances this year, particularly in the novice divisions, hence the open nature of many of the markets.
Last Instalment. It was great to see a horse attacking a race rather than just picking up the pieces. Plenty of people want to knock him but I suspect plenty of those who do didn't have enough faith to take the big odds NRNB. It is still quite a big
Thought Pearl Castle looked very good at Donny last month. Admittedly getting loads of weight from older rivals he opened an 18 length gap over the remainder (finished close enough to each other)from the last home.Visually very impressive and entered there again on Wednesday next in a four year old only contest. Trained by John Quinn so no worries on the trainer score.
Thought Pearl Castle looked very good at Donny last month. Admittedly getting loads of weight from older rivals he opened an 18 length gap over the remainder (finished close enough to each other)from the last home.Visually very impressive and entered
Sire De Grugu's latest win got to be an honourable mention too, even if the race did fall into his hands. If the ground's soft on CC day, he'll push Spinter Sacre very close.
Sire De Grugu's latest win got to be an honourable mention too, even if the race did fall into his hands. If the ground's soft on CC day, he'll push Spinter Sacre very close.
Wicklow brave form looks mint to me the beating of western boy giving him lumps of weight agree with u on that gutfeeling all the way and im on at nice double figures got to go close to his stablemate.
Wicklow brave form looks mint to me the beating of western boy giving him lumps of weight agree with u on that gutfeeling all the way and im on at nice double figures got to go close to his stablemate.
Tractor • February 17, 2014 5:36 PM GMT Zamdy Man beating Un Temps Pour Tout at Haydock could be right up there come the end of Cheltenham, any one agree??
I agree completely, but your talking about a novice hurdler that isn't trained by Mullins, as such you'll get no one agreeing.
Tractor • February 17, 2014 5:36 PM GMTZamdy Man beating Un Temps Pour Tout at Haydock could be right up there come the end of Cheltenham, any one agree??I agree completely, but your talking about a novice hurdler that isn't trained by Mullins, as
Ballycasey last time out for me. Beating 2 horses who had previously won a Grade 1 in another Grade 1 on only his second run of the season. Still looks big at 5/1 to me.
Ballycasey last time out for me. Beating 2 horses who had previously won a Grade 1 in another Grade 1 on only his second run of the season. Still looks big at 5/1 to me.
Fox Norton failing by a Neck to give Royal Irish Hussar 8lbs and made a hash of the last.
RIH went on to win his next 2 races one Listed & one a Grade 2 where he had Guitar Pete just under 4 lengths behind off level weights (Won a Grade 2 & Grade 1 since).
RIH was 3rd to Fox Norton when they met again beaten 16 lengths with Broughton beaten a head in 2nd in receipt of 7lbs.
Broughton won nto by 5 lengths from Clarcam getting 5lbs, Clarcam was 7 lengths behind Guitar Pete off levels.
Only danger to Fox Norton is his stablemate Le Rocher imo but Abbyssial also comes into the mix on his French form.
Go on then one more. Fox Norton failing by a Neck to give Royal Irish Hussar 8lbs and made a hash of the last.RIH went on to win his next 2 races one Listed & one a Grade 2 where he had Guitar Pete just under 4 lengths behind off level weights (Won a
Wasn't there one athlete in the 1988 100m final who never tested positive.
Funnily enough I've just finished the book The Dirtiest Race In History about that final. Only Calvin Smith who was promoted to third and the Brazilian Da Silva (I think) who finished sixth never tested positive. When interviewed for the book Smith was very scathing about that whole time in sprinting and justifiably in my view feels that he was robbed of being recognised for the great sprinter that he was.
Wasn't there one athlete in the 1988 100m final who never tested positive.Funnily enough I've just finished the book The Dirtiest Race In History about that final. Only Calvin Smith who was promoted to third and the Brazilian Da Silva (I think) who f
Forgive me for being a muppet here but are we not talking about races where the form has actually been franked? Nothing from the Last Instalment race has run since. If we are going strictly on the form book then other races looks more favourable in terms of this exercise. SPOT ON
sintonian • February 17, 2014 1:52 PM GMT Forgive me for being a muppet here but are we not talking about races where the form has actually been franked? Nothing from the Last Instalment race has run since. If we are going strictly on the form bo
Agree re Zamdy Man and have backed this at 33/1. But, despite contraction in price elsewhere, have noticed his name removed from a number of lists, including on Betfair. Anyone know why this might be?
Agree re Zamdy Man and have backed this at 33/1. But, despite contraction in price elsewhere, have noticed his name removed from a number of lists, including on Betfair. Anyone know why this might be?