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Nighthawk
12 Jan 14 07:51
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Last Instalment comes back Thursday. If Philip Fenton has him  back as good as before then
the 50-1 NRNB willl look good.

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By:
Ballydoyle
When: 12 Jan 14 10:52
This is a horse i loved for the RSA and was gutted when he had to miss it because I thought he was a good thing. However he has now been off a while and do they come back?His trainer says he will come on a lot for the run so may just want him jumping round here.
By:
Howdi
When: 12 Jan 14 13:48
The only 'real outsider' you could make a genuine case for, agree.
By:
Ramruma
When: 12 Jan 14 14:13
After two years off and basically a novice? Good luck.
By:
Quvega
When: 12 Jan 14 14:33
and with tendons like candyfloss
By:
jasey
When: 12 Jan 14 14:33
Yeh i liked him but they never come back the same horse
By:
Howdi
When: 12 Jan 14 14:39
Ramruma  • January 12, 2014 2:13 PM GMT 


After two years off and basically a novice? Good luck. (check his form out)
By:
jasey
When: 12 Jan 14 15:02
Two years ago Howdi.
Trabolgan Invictus
By:
Nighthawk
When: 12 Jan 14 15:49
Agree he's a novice, but this may not be a vintage year.
And there seems to be rather a lot of people who think Big Bucks will be back as good as ever.
On the day if he makes it he's worth a bet, one for the NRNB bookies.
By:
jasey
When: 12 Jan 14 16:04
Not vintage.
Are you serious Nighthawk
By:
kavvie
When: 12 Jan 14 17:56
its not a vintage year..no kauto kicking king denman..the current crop wouldnt compare..i think its an outsiders year..
By:
jasey
When: 12 Jan 14 18:41
Having a laf.
Only Denman at his peak would win this gold cup.
Kauto beat grade 2 horses in his first gold cup,and Denman had a heart problem and was never the same again in his second
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 12 Jan 14 20:42
That would be bang on the money....
By:
CheltenhamRoar
When: 12 Jan 14 22:20
His only bit of worthwhile form is a beating of First Lieutenant,A proverbial bridesmaid horse.
By:
kavvie
When: 13 Jan 14 22:53
come back here when a 16/1 plus shot wins it!!
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 14 Jan 14 12:36
From Kim Bailey's Blog

Harry Topper runs in the Argento next week and has to win it and then it come up soft for him to be in the Gold Cup

150/1-plus, (for buttons) on here if you think this is likely
By:
jasey
When: 14 Jan 14 15:12
Kavvie.
it aint gonna happen m8
By:
kavvie
When: 14 Jan 14 18:33
ill be laying the top 4 in betting
By:
Denman The Destroyer
When: 15 Jan 14 20:45
Fenton seems very upbeat.
By:
BJG
When: 16 Jan 14 14:57
Brilliant run back LoveLove
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 16 Jan 14 15:09
Laying the top 4 in any top graded race is a quick way to the poor house, laying the top 4 in the betting in the Gold Cup will send you straight into the gutter!

Your having a laugh Jasey aint you? The weakest gold cup, only beat grade 2 horses? I think not, in Kautos years he beat what was put to him, whom were genuine grade 1 horses in their respective years! To say any championship race is weak, is utterly ridiculous imo!
By:
differentdrum
When: 16 Jan 14 16:59
Plenty of promise in that comeback. Leaving aside the front two (and the second favourite still has a bit to prove) there isn't much else of an obviously solid/progressive nature in the Gold Cup market so 50/1 NRNB doesn't look such a bad bet. If he bombs next time you almost certainly get your money back but if he performs well the price will be cut in half. Bobs Worth is by far the most likely winner but given that he only runs a couple of times a year how confident can you be that he will turn up?
By:
brandyontherocks
When: 16 Jan 14 17:44
Well he has made the festival the last three years so wouldn't be overly concerned.
By:
jasey
When: 16 Jan 14 20:14
STS i never said it was the weakest gold cup.
Kauto beat Turpin Green  147 rated by 2 an half lengths.
That Turpin Green in this years Gold Cup,iyo would he place?
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 16 Jan 14 21:08
Turpin Green would need to start an hour before imo
By:
buddeliea
When: 17 Jan 14 07:47
CheltenhamRoar Joined: 26 Jul 12
Replies: 2540    His only bit of worthwhile form is a beating of First Lieutenant,A proverbial bridesmaid horse



So that would put him in the league containing Bobsworth the current champ and fav!!!

Big difference though is LI has been off for so long.
Darn good comeback run though, and his next run is very interesting now.
Took a bit of the 50 nrfb after the race yesterday.
A big run in the Hennessey nto and that price is long gone, worth a speculative punt imo.
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 17 Jan 14 09:57
I take your point, but my point is that these horses can only beat whats put in front of them, Exotic Dancer was 2nd in that years gold cup rated 167 and ok Turpin Green rated rather lowly was a similar distance back in 3rd but another point i would like to make is that race is littered with outsiders placing for one reason or another.



Going back to the topic of the thread i would really love to see Last Instalment back, yesterdays run at first glance to me wasnt great, he blew up big time and i was expecting to see him blow them away! However, i watched that race without knowing what the distance was and i personally was a little distant, i was flicking channels, went onto ATR and low and behold, Last Instalment was running. The distance would have been shorter than he would like too is what am saying, the gold cup is 3mile 2 and the RSA i was gutted he missed 2 years ago is just a shade over 3 miles. 50/1 nrnb is a good bet!
By:
Arklearkle
When: 17 Jan 14 10:52
I agree if LI runs on the day he will be an awful lot less than 50s
By:
buddeliea
When: 09 Feb 14 16:31
An awful lot less than 50's!!!
Happy
By:
Howdi
When: 09 Feb 14 16:38
jasey  • January 12, 2014 3:02 PM GMT 


Two years ago Howdi.
Trabolgan Invictus

LETS HAVE SOME HUMBLE PIE EATEN Laugh
By:
Howdi
When: 09 Feb 14 16:41
You won't hear from half those who posted on here in early January.
By:
Quvega
When: 09 Feb 14 17:07
Gl Nighthawk Cool Hope his legs are nice and cool in the morning, a fantastic jumper, would be a delight to see him jumping round Cheltenham.
By:
jasey
When: 09 Feb 14 17:07
Very impressive.
Howdi mmm this pie tastes lovely
By:
Nighthawk
When: 09 Feb 14 18:03
Lets hope he remains sound and does the business in March,
if not I hope people backed him on a non runner no bet basis.
By:
brandyontherocks
When: 09 Feb 14 18:21
I'm pleased as most racing will be we have another contender for the blue riband.
By:
brandyontherocks
When: 09 Feb 14 18:24
That makes zero sense. Apologies.

I meant to say;
All racing fans will be pleased we have another genuine contender for racings blue riband.
By:
daveygfc
When: 10 Feb 14 12:29
@CorneliusRacing: Last Instalment trainer Philip Fenton re #CheltFest: "Gold Cup looks obvious [but] not going to rule out Ryanair." LI owned Michael O'Leary
By:
Arklearkle
When: 10 Feb 14 15:42
Reckon PF attempting to take the pressure off. I would be amazed if he goes for the Ryanair. Only one race for him.
By:
duffy
When: 10 Feb 14 15:49
You'd think with what they've been through with this horse and with the sort of form he showed yesterday...the GC would be long odds on......what possible argument is there for anything other than the GC...the issue is with the state of the ground for the horse...not the distance of the race.
By:
differentdrum
When: 10 Feb 14 16:03
You could possibly understand the original Ryanair entry but after yesterday it would be ridiculous to target any race other than the Gold Cup. Trainers seem to think it is some sort of hanging offence to nominate a single target.
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