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foolsgold123
01 Jan 14 15:28
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By:
jasey
When: 01 Jan 14 15:36
Better to back her to win any race
By:
foolsgold123
When: 01 Jan 14 15:41
Not really. 3/1 for any race or 5/1 for the world hurdle and you can back it e/w if you wish, if it don't run you get your money back and if the price is higher you get that. It's either the champion hurdle/world hurdle or nothing. With boston bob and hurricane fly being impressive as late, tough decisions a head!!
By:
CR7
When: 01 Jan 14 15:43
Could go mares hurdle?
By:
BJG
When: 01 Jan 14 15:44
Will she be much shorter on d day if BB and Solwhit etc turn up Confused
By:
foolsgold123
When: 01 Jan 14 15:48
Forgot about the mares! Unless something happens to Quevega can't see it there but possible. With best odds and nrnb plus this could be stepped up to 3m and meet and beat these before the festival. Decent safe e/w bet I think.
By:
jasey
When: 01 Jan 14 15:48
I think she wins either,but churdle is a. hot race
By:
jasey
When: 01 Jan 14 15:54
Did not realize a different offer from 365 offering bog,is the bet refunded as promo cash with a time limit?
By:
jasey
When: 01 Jan 14 15:54
Did not realize a different offer from 365 offering bog,is the bet refunded as promo cash with a time limit?
By:
foolsgold123
When: 01 Jan 14 16:02
No its if it doesn't turn up you get your money back as is in real money. World Hurdle, Champion Hurdle, Champion Chase and Gold Cup mate.
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 01 Jan 14 16:05
Not quick enough for Champion Hurdle and Quevega is the Mares one. Will go for World Hurdle if anything but stable has Boston Bob in that also.
By:
jasey
When: 01 Jan 14 16:07
Good offer,ii coul see her being fav for the world hurdle,and i imagine that would be where ruby wants her.
Demolished a decent horse today easily.
By:
duffy
When: 01 Jan 14 16:08
She won't run in the CH IMO, for one thing wherever she runs walsh is going to be wanting to ride her and so would the owner, but he'll never get off HF and that's before you factor in the other contenders, so he'll be pushing for the WH where they could be forgiven for thinking they've got 2 horses to beat maximum, and walsh would ride.
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 01 Jan 14 16:09
VC are 6/1 NRFB so why take 5/1??
By:
foolsgold123
When: 01 Jan 14 16:12
Rather have real cash back and loose a point then a free bet bet and gain a point.
By:
ACStafford
When: 01 Jan 14 16:12
Seems destined for World Hurdle, but 5/1 seems short enough. I'd rather wait until the day and see what else turns up.
By:
jasey
When: 01 Jan 14 16:13
Bally.
you get the money back with 365. its promo cash with vic
By:
duffy
When: 01 Jan 14 16:16
Yep, NRFB roughly translates to, if your horse doesn't run, you ain't having your money back.Grin
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 01 Jan 14 16:18
Yeah but you just go back another horse. Quite simple. The only drawback is 50 quid max but when yer missus n mates have accounts you can pile in.
By:
duffy
When: 01 Jan 14 16:18
Bit like going into M&S and them giving you a voucher tying you to the shop when you'd sooner have the option to feck off somewhere else with a refund thankyou very much.
By:
eastayrshire
When: 01 Jan 14 16:21
I`m hugely tempted to have £100 on this offer, Annie Power looks special, ok the amount of actual form we have is small, BUT if you extrapolate from what it has done it wins pretty much any race it enters. Would seem WH is the logical choice tho for sure.
By:
jasey
When: 01 Jan 14 16:22
They would not pay your stake back would they if your rebet wins?
By:
tinkler
When: 01 Jan 14 16:30
£100 NrNB doesn't run = cash back ,if you then put the £100 on an even money shot and it wins you get £200 back
£100 NrFb doesn't run = free bet , you then put the £100 free bet on the same even money shot you only get £100 back.
   £100 better off in this scenario with the NRNB offer.
By:
duffy
When: 01 Jan 14 16:42
AP isn't an ideal candidate to be doing this bet with where she'll be close to the price she is now if she runs, when you factor in losing your stake if she doesn't run.
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 01 Jan 14 17:56
Yeah but Tinkler it's a point bigger with the free bet which is another 200 quid if it comes in. If not then able to use promo cash that day. Doesn't have to be one bet. Can use cash for anything. No brainer
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 01 Jan 14 19:11
I have n't seen today's race yet so need to watch it back, she's clearly very good but am I the only one who thinks the World Hurdle is shaping up like a hot race?

Will be clearer by the end of the month particularly if the battle of BBs takes place in the Cleeve.

Gotta bear in mind though that she'll get 7lb and VLV gave BB a momentary scare last time he won it.
By:
Tory
When: 01 Jan 14 19:22
I'm right in saying aren't I that the BV  free bet doesn't have to be used in the same race as the one where you've got the free bet from due to your horse not running? It can be used on any race that day?
By:
SoYouThink
When: 01 Jan 14 21:21
Stayers race looks a serious conundrum ReaseHeath.

I'm going to start out by ruling out Big Bucks. Great horse, I've backed him in some of his wins but returning off a long lay-off and is now 11. One of these things on their own would put me off backing a 5/2 shot straight away.

Solwhit also getting on and has had injury issues this season too.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 01 Jan 14 23:11
Very difficult to draw firm conclusions today. With each run Zarkandar seems to be fading and today was no exception. Annie looked visually impressive today but I wonder how to rate it given it was a three horse race with one deservedly outclassed and one badly out of form. She sure seems to like those conditions though and deep ground at the festival wouldn't seem to be a bad thing if that were the case.

As for which race she goes for that's anybody's guess. Are the owners wanting the glory of a win at the meeting, if so the mares would seem the likely race. Are they wanting to chance their arm in the most prestigious race in which case you'd think they may have a pop at the champion. Or do they compromise and send her longer for a more prestigious race than the mares and an arguably easier race in the stayers than the champion.

One thing appears certain. I think we won't find out for some time and any injuries to key players may be a deciding factor.
By:
buddeliea
When: 02 Jan 14 07:58
Tory,
They put the money in your account as promo cash on the morning of the day your non runner was due to run.
You can then use it as you wish.
If the horse becomes a non runner on the day, the money goes in the following morning... I believe?
By:
Tory
When: 02 Jan 14 12:06
Cheers Bud, that's how I read it. Just wanted to double check.
By:
buddeliea
When: 02 Jan 14 18:13
Taken this bet now,and also have her at 40 nrfb for the CHurdle.
She should run in one of them,probably WH more likely.
By:
eastayrshire
When: 02 Jan 14 19:06
Very difficult to draw firm conclusions today. With each run Zarkandar seems to be fading and today was no exception. Annie looked visually impressive today but I wonder how to rate it given it was a three horse race with one deservedly outclassed and one badly out of form. She sure seems to like those conditions though and deep ground at the festival wouldn't seem to be a bad thing if that were the case.

As for which race she goes for that's anybody's guess. Are the owners wanting the glory of a win at the meeting, if so the mares would seem the likely race. Are they wanting to chance their arm in the most prestigious race in which case you'd think they may have a pop at the champion. Or do they compromise and send her longer for a more prestigious race than the mares and an arguably easier race in the stayers than the champion.

One thing appears certain. I think we won't find out for some time and any injuries to key players may be a deciding factor.


Is Zarkandar seriously out of form?, this is a possibility but imho far from actuality, would a badly out of form Zark give TNO a scare?, it is one scrap of form we have and *may* indicate Annie Power is special and progressive, jeez if BB comes out and is disappointing I think they said it will be retired?, be a nice bet then.
Typically when a superb horse comes along us punters get very little opportunity to back them at decent odds, AP has a bit to prove yet BUT this might be the last decent odds you get about her.
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