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You can't really compare the flat and NH because there is no 'black type' incentive with the jumpers - it's all about the glory of winning the main event at Cheltenham. The festival is so good because everyone is aiming at it all season.
Anyway between England and Ireland there are plenty of Grade 1 options for all hurdlers and chasers whether 2m, 2m4f or 3m+ - just needs English trainers to take their horses to Ireland a bit more. Unless he goes to Ireland for the James Nicholson, Lexus or Irish Hennessey where is Bob's Worth going to run next season? The Betfair Chase is the only option before Christmas given he is most unlikely to carry a huge weight in the Hennesssey (he's not built to carry it like Denman was) or go to Kempton for the KG as he hates the track. Then the Argento is getting a bit close to Cheltenham and isn't really valuable or prestigious enough - could he even go straight to the Gold Cup next year? With modern training I doubt most owners/trainers want their top class horses to run more than 2 times (maybe 3 times for 2 milers) before Cheltenham - unless they can offer huge financial incentives, which given the state of racings finances is most unlikely, I can't see it changing. |
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Yes the NH season really needs a "Champions Series".
After all it's been a resounding success on the flat. We really need a few students carrying around stupid placards. FCUK OFF bazalgette ysc. |
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read carefully
" the champions series, developed over the flat season to try to provide a climax that mirrors cheltenham" NH racing already has the winning formulae |
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things are often mimicked but never bettered....
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the only reward other than cheltenham is good hard cash
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agreed sonko and i know you did well
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what i mean, is their should be 2 champion races before cheltenham that pay more than the festival.
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Don't forget that the weather plays such a big part in the jumps season. There is a good build up Nov upto the King George then apart from Trials day and Denman Chase there is not much for the class horses, also Cheltenham is not the end of the season as we have Aintree, Punchestown and Sandown, not many horses finish their season at Cheltenham.
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Seems a classic case of 'If it ain't broke don't fix it'.
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Should be bonus races before Cheltenham - so if a horse wins (or is at least placed) for say 3 races before and then wins at the festival - double the prize money and the horse will be seen by the racing public - Sprinter Sacre, Simonsig et al might have the incentive to run more(or at least the owner / trainer will)
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Jumps season must be wary of Simon Bazalgette's urge to tinker
Jockey Club chief executive's idea of using the Flat's Champions Series to enliven the jumps season could be on the wrong track. Chris Cook The Guardian.CO.UK , Sunday 17 March In the aftermath of the Cheltenham Festival, it is hard to remember what so many people were worried about beforehand. Though the meeting ended under a cloud because of the appalling injury to JT McNamara, the racing itself thrilled, new stars emerged and the major events were won by convincing champions. Almost nothing in the sport works so well as the Festival, a reliable high point in the year of anyone who enjoys jump racing. But its success is a concern for some, who fear the desire of trainers and owners to win there is so great as to wipe out their willingness to race at any other time, if it might hinder their chance at Cheltenham. Perhaps it might allay their concerns if the fretful were told that nine of Britain's 13 winners last week had raced four or more times earlier in the season. Or perhaps not, since the other four were the most significant: Cue Card (three previous runs), Simonsig, Sprinter Sacre (two each) and Bobs Worth (one). The most tenderly campaigned three are, of course, all trained by Nicky Henderson, so anyone insisting on the basis of results at this year's Festival that the star horses should race more often is effectively telling him to change his ways. Aged 62 and after 50 Festival wins, 10 more than anyone else, ever, Henderson is likely to change nothing. In his defence it should be said that Sprinter Sacre would have run in mid-November if the ground had been in its usual state at that time of year, rather than bottomless, while Bobs Worth and Simonsig were due to have prep-runs early this year, missing them because of doubts as to their wellbeing. Another trainer may have run them anyway, perhaps jeopardising their fitness for the Festival thereby. On the day after the Gold Cup, this paper carried an assertion that the jumps season needs to be improved. It was made by Simon Bazalgette, who is in a position to do something about it, as chief executive of the Jockey Club, owner of Cheltenham, Aintree and other tracks. One of his suggestions is to use Flat racing's new Champions Series as a template, though it would be premature to call that Series a raging success. "You've got the end and you've sort of got the beginning, but the middle bit is not really very well defined," says Bazalgette of the jumps season, striking a chord with all those of us who sport poorly defined middles. The issue is a familiar one, November and December having big races every Saturday while January and February are full of trials for more big races in March and April. My feeling is that the jumps season is adequately stocked with high points and that the star names will be spread rather thinly if more are created. Anyone who ever told a story knows that each climax needs a build-up. Bazalgette risks sounding like the man who liked Hamlet but felt the deaths were rather clustered at the end and should be staggered more evenly through the action. There is always room for innovation but any major new race-meeting early in the year should be aimed at horses not catered for at Cheltenham. Otherwise, we will not be adding to what we have but competing with it and perhaps undermining it. Powerful men must do something to justify their status but the urge to tinker is often best resisted, for fear of unintended consequences. The Festival is a glorious thing but it is also the natural conclusion to the season as it exists now; both have been many decades in evolution and executives are kidding themselves if they think they can improve either by sheer force of will in a short time. |
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Its all crazy. The weather plays a big part in that it is very unreliable from mid January until mid February and by then it is probably too late to run most of the good horses. I understood the idea with the flat was to create this great climax at the end of the season. Now when one already exists in NH it appears we want to tinker and fcuk it up good and proper. As it is there are plenty of suitable grade ones at all levels anyway and to be honest many of them have small fields. Of course the idea may be to get more into the racecourse bars on a Saturday. They would be far better employed fixing the mid-week racing problem rather than making it worse. Of course many people have contributed to making The Festival a success but in many ways it has happened accidently because in truth it is what practically everyone associated with racing wants. As the man said IF IT AINT BROKE .......
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i agree with baslegate....how about we create an aintree card that includes a grand national or something
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As a follower of several sports, I believe that NH racing gets it far more right than any other. And let's not forget that the season proper now extends for 6 weeks after Cheltenham, with further highlights at Aintree, Fairyhouse, Punchestown and Sandown. So the criticism focuses on Jan, Feb and the first two weeks of March. Given that the weather is uncertain, few are going to race Grade 1 horses in the two or three weeks before the Festival, and we also have during that period the Irish Hennessy, Irish Champion and trials day at Cheltenham,I have to confess I don't have a clue what this man is talking about.
Using the Champions series as a template? Is he quite all right? |
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Agree with Flyingbolt
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