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15 Mar 13
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Blown away by that performance today, absolutely electric 
Have never been so impressed with a novice hurdler before.
Have never been so impressed with a novice hurdler before.
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Was truly sensational.
Not sure what happened to Rolling star but Connor's win was unreal. |
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when i heard 10s for champion i thought it was bet ante post bet id seen for a while all gone now!
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when i heard 10s for champion i thought it was bet ante post bet id seen for a while all gone now!
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scolardy?
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The start of a good day for me. Best performance by a novice I've seen since Golden Cygnet. What will he do next year!?
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it was a spectacular performance for sure so it will be interesting to see how that compares with the likes of The New One and MTOY next year
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I guess it's possible that the bunh in behind weren't all up to much, but the ease with which he strode further and further clear was phenomenal.
I hope he stays sound because he has a massive future |
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DO YOU REMEMBER GOLDEN CYGNET HIGHEST RATED NOVICE OF ALL TIME....
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DO YOU REMEMBER GOLDEN CYGNET HIGHEST RATED NOVICE OF ALL TIME....
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Just watched GOLDEN CYGNET best races from 1978 on you tube he was a great one for sure but i think Our Coner was the best novice permormence iv ever seen. .. its just a shame that GOLDEN CYGNET died in the scottish champion hurdle before his greatness could be REALIZED.
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Like everyone couldnt get the 10s but got some 8s with hills for next year's champion. Really impressed
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Got 200 on at 10s with Coral, no probs
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Only question he needs to answer is Good ground but given he will race mostly in Ireland and come over here once a year where they water for GS on day 1 it is unlikely to matter.
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Our Conor v The New One v Hurricane Fly v My Tent Or Yours
 (God willing) Already semi-erect for next year's Champion Hurdle! |
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Countrywide Flame, Rock on Ruby should be in the list too
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Brilliant performance. It will be interesting to see what else his sire "Jeremy" produces.Reckon he's fee has
gone up after that |
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He's potentially the best hurdler I've ever seen.When he won on debut at Navan,I'd never seen a juvenile jump so well first time out.In his next race at Fairyhouse,his jumping was again magnificent,although he wasn't ultimately as impressive,probably owing to a relatively slow early pace.I broke the habit of a lifetime,and backed him for the Triumph @ 16/1 (documented on here before the after time brigade go into meltdown) before he took on Mullins pair in the Spring Juvenile Hurdle at Leopardstown,and although he won convincingly and received rave reviews,I was slightly dissapointed with his jumping,although to be fair,he did just seem to meet quite a few,just not on a stride,and he fiddled them sufficiently enough.
As for yesterday...quite simply he gave me goosebumps watching him.Only time will tell if the field he beat were a below average bunch or not,and of course we will have to wait until next year before he can be assessed properly against the cream of the 2m hurdlers,but I'm already looking forward to seeing him again.I think and hope he could be a special horse. |
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Add Champagne Fever to the mix
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Beat MTOY fair and square.
So we have a serious 5yr old next season,and a bl00dy good winner of the supreme and a good runner up.Plus a 10yr old champion,and another horse trying to regain his crown. What will the stats/trends boys think of that |
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Can you be sure where Champagne Fever will go next though? I was thinking he'd probably go novice chasing now as that was talked about last season.
As for Our Conor bar the Black Aeroplane his was the most impressive performance this year. I've backed him for next years Champion (I know he'll be 5! but that was seriously good). The New One would be the biggest danger for me |
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He won easy, wasn't that impressed with his jumping though early on, could of been the ground though tbf. Budd under the impression CF is already back at home schooling fences for next season.
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really mate? would have liked to see him in the CH myself,owner might as well!!
he would certainly add something to the race with his front running,and ability to stay well up that hill. really hope he stays hurdling next season |
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they could change their minds, but from what i gathered it was a last minute call to go hurdling instead of chasing so they could get experience into him. Like you say though add him into the mix and it would be a very strong field next year.
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Champagne Fever virtually certain to go over fences imo.
Doubt they'd be schooling him over fences a couple of days after winning at Cheltenham though.  |
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Champagne is nailed on to over fences. After the race on Tuesday in an interview Willie said they've already been schooling him and he's 'electric' to quote him.
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It's funny you say that about his jumping last time at Leopardstown , Hemsby. That was part of the reason why I backed him!! He didn't jump some of his hurdles cleanly but still was able to smash them and have plenty left at the finish. That was what made me stand up and take notice!
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Would it be worth considering letting Our Conor take on Hurricane Fly at Punchestown in a few weeks time?
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Our Conor impressive but he probably beat a bunch of trees. As most Triumph winners have discovered its a big step up to winning a champion hurdle. However I do accept that he could be a future super star but I would not spend the groceries on him yet. Grands Crus and Michail Dhag were so good they were going to win the gold cup in their novice years. The media make the hype and the bookies rub their hands in glee. Apologies for being such a spoilsport.
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Fantastic novice performance. Pretty sure that the owners have said they are stepping Countrywide Flame up in distance next season and Rock on Ruby is most likely going chasing so can't see either of them opposing. Still a Champion involving HF, MTOY, Our Conor and The New One would be great to see.
One other side note, did anybody read what Mullins said after the race, "We'll be back to Punchestown but I've been looking at the French Champion Hurdle as well. It's three miles and one, but I think he'll stay it."!!! |
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Can see Champagne Fever in the Jewson next year
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Judging by the supreme time to the champion time its looking like you should concentrate on the young challengers now.
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how was conors time in relation to others
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The triumph is ran over 2m 1F so the only race you can compare it with is the Vincent O'Brien.
Our connor time 4m 11s Ted Vale time 4m 16s Ted vale carried 8lbs less than Our connor plus the Vincent O'Brien is one of the most furious races and Our Connor didn't come of the bridle so very good performance. |
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good performance so..
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Make your own mind up, OC 12 seconds slower than HF in the champion but 1F more on far softer ground and HF all out, I know which horse I want to back in the champion if both turn up! MTOY, OC and TNO will be the 3 for me.
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So,so difficult to try to compare times as the two courses are very different.Throw in pace of the race,differing ground conditions (even between this years Triumph and County),different weight carried etc and its a virtually impossible task to assess accurately IMO.
Just had another look at the race on YouTube ..... http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pMjqxyZ1dUM .....it truly was a fantastic display,with his jump at the 3rd last just sublime. |
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ASSSSUMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE CANT WAIT TILL NEXT YEARS CHAMPION A new era guy
..................................GAWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN CONOR |
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really like him...
I wouldn't be as keen as others to back antepost as I haven't seen him on better ground yet and he clearly likes cut, as the jockey said after the race he was glad the rain came... he looks top class however but there are no sweets at 5-1 with a year to go and not knowing how he will handle proper decent ground has to be a concern especially at these skinny odds... a top class prospect, he certainly is though |
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did my rating for the Triumph - came out at 157 , Supreme was 154, Neptune 156
so quite similar really |