Dynaste RSA

yeh,hes more and more looking the most likely winner of the week imo.

The question is: what has the form to beat it? On what I have seen so far, nothing. I agree with you Maelduin, it may just about go off a shade odds on

I agree with poster but the stats stink more than any race on the racing calendar.

I've backed Boston Bob. Can't you read. I'm just not that convinced that. However, the dreaded stats have me convinced that Dynaste will not win. Might be silly to you, but its my opinion!

it wont stay the trip imo budd, the only time it has won over 3 miles it was well handicapped, and before the kempton is 3 miles brigade pounce it is the easiest 3 miles your gonna get. i,ll stick with unioniste PN has stated he left plenty to work on so the fact that he won the other day was a bonus

Silly is not really that bad is it? But i do apologise i upset you.

Yes its happened before,that dont mean it will this year.
I look at the RSA to try and find something to beat Dynaste,i cant anywhere see a horse that looks remotely capable to be honest.

alleged,
this aint no Grand Crus mate,this is a much better horse,and will prove it.
Hes too short for me antepost(plus may go Jewson),but i shall be keeping an eye on his price on the day.

visually has too much speed for me mate

maybe,maybe not mate.
Time will only tell us.

Reynoldstown next week innit? That'll throw some more clues and stats into the equation.

Struggling to see what's gonna beat him myself - really like Harry Topper and he was impressive today - but he's not even entered.

buddeliea
10 Feb 13 21:20
this aint no Grand Crus mate,this is a much better horse,and will prove it.

How is this a much better horse than Grands Crus?

Grands Crus rated 167 over hurdles with two 2nds to Big Buck's in Grade 1s at Cheltenham and Aintree.
Dynaste rated 161 over hurdles and beaten out of sight by Big Buck's in Grade 1 at Cheltenham.

Grands Crus rated 159 over fences after Feltham, unbeaten in 3 chase starts and clear favourite going into RSA Chase.
Dynaste rated 161 over fences after Feltham, unbeaten in same 3 chase starts and clear favourite going into RSA Chase.

That does not make it a much better horse.

I've been ante Dynaste all season but I at the moment i'm struggling to find one to beat it. I'm a Boston Bob fan and you have to hope a frantic pace will see him staying on strongest. I would be interested in Cantlow if he turned up, but that seems unlikely judging by his prep being a hurdle race.

The guessing games have truly begun. Dynaste not a definite for RSA, Pipe will decide whether he runs in this or the Jewson at the final decs stage

Dynaste's Cheltenham Festival target is unlikely to be determined until the final declaration stage, according to trainer David Pipe.

The star novice chaser heads the ante-post betting for the RSA Chase but could yet drop back in trip to contest the Jewson Chase the following day.

"I've taken him out of the World Hurdle, but the likelihood is that he will be left in both novice chases at the five-day stage and then a decision will be taken as late as possible," Pipe told SkySports.com

Dynaste is three from three over fences this season under Tom Scudamore, but has been off the track since winning the Feltham Chase at Kempton on Boxing Day.

"He's in really good form and the runner-up, Hadrians Approach, has come out and really franked the form since, so his form seems to look better and better. But having said that I thought the same about Grands Crus last season before he got beaten at Cheltenham!" Pipe continued.

"Tom says he wouldn't be worried about him going back in trip and nor would I, but we don't need to make that decision yet. The going will certainly be a factor."

Pipe also had news of Goulanes, a recent winner at Wetherby on his first start under Rules over fences, and also on course for the Cheltenham Festival.

"He has come out of the race in good form and will run in either the RSA or the four-miler," said the trainer. "If he had to take on Dynaste it wouldn't worry me - we will choose the best race for each horse."

You could always take the view that he is being open with the punters.

It's better for him to let you know now rather than when the final declaration have been made.

You are now aware that if you have a bet there is a risk attached.

Forty

Alledged22

I'm not sure running him in the RSA would necessarily ruin him but I am in agreement with you that the Jewson would be the better race for him.  As a result I have placed my score on also but at the betfair prices.

My point was being made to the people who believe that the horse would run in the RSA and that David Pipe is messing them about.  They must have been aware that the horse had more than one option at Cheltenham.

Good luck

The only reason he's 9-4 is that the Jewson offers a very real alternative destination.

For what it's worth, I think the 4-1 available NRMB with Bat Vector for the Jewson is a real steal. No way he'd go off at 4s in this if they did elect to go that way, and if he does go to the RSA, you'll get your cash back.

I think he'll run in the RSA unless it's testing, but in that case, how many of the decent (but not good enough to beat him anyway) two and a half milers would struggle to get home in a soft-ground Jewson? I think he's be the best bet of the meeting at 4-1 in that scenario.

His form doesn't look worthy of his price to me. What happens when Rocky Creek beats Houblon des Obeaux even more impressively tomorrow?! Boston Bob looks much better value o my eyes

True hickster - that's an important point. Non Runner Free Bet it is!

Problem is Tory,their has to be a horse up against him thats actually good enough!!
i cant see one.
i shall look at this race again on the day,till then i aint bothering with it.