Hunt Ball

It's the race he should go for yeah and I think he will tbh.

Is it too late to enter him? If not the race at Aintree where he came 3rd last year would suit.

He did me a big favour at last years festival and I've followed him closely this year.

Don't know but he won't win it.

Exactly

I was going to start a similar thread myself but you beat me to it. As already stated the horse is only entered in the GC. Yesterday proved again just like Aintree last year the horse does not stay 3 miles regardless of the ground. The horse has been built up steadily all year and I really hope connections see sense and run him in the Ryanair as I for one think he will win it.

Not sure how the Ryanair's looking sub standard. One of the races of the meeting from what I can see.

Very pleased he franked Menorah's form for the Ryanair.

huh? is that the same Menorah that's been 20+ lengths behind Cue Card in the Arkle and the Haldon Gold Cup?

Anybody can see the horse doesn't get 3 miles. Therefore only a moron would run him over a quarter mile further at championship pace and at Cheltenham. Of course I defend the owners right to be a moron but that doesn't make him any less of a moron if he forces the horse to run in a race he can't win and from which in all probability he will come back punch drunk.

eeter why are they a moron?? horse emptied yes and in all probability he won't get home but to judge him totally on that ground is harsh for me...he is a horse i like as is so fluent at his fences and looks grade 1 material...he moves like a proper good ground horse to me and bottomless ground didn't see him in a good light, he came out of the race with a lot of credit, is a long shot in the gold cup but am happy to accommodate the 9-1 the place on the day on better ground...one of the best jumpers i have seen for a long time over a fence

on good ground this horse will not disgrace himself imo...don't think he has the class to win however but is 50-1 so easy to say he can't

also must mention the trainer said he hadn't been able to work the horse with the snow... make what you will of that.

hey judo am ok pal hope your well...well a poor couple of weeks for me pal... have just invested my biggest bet for a while in albert bartlett on what i think is border line certainty so have had a good drink to take away the pain of the investment and am feeling better...plus quiscover entered for the national was also pleasurable to say the least just hope we can make the trade...sweet my lord was one of the biggest penetrations for a while even though we made the trade but the pain of him not winning was hard to bare...anything you fancy for chelt?? menorah can't win the ryannair but don't think you were fancying him anyway

The issue with this horse unfortunately lies with the owner who is a clown. He seems unprepared to allow the trainer to do the right thing by the horse and is running him over a trip that to most people's eyes he clearly doesn't stay. I have no vested interest in whether he runs in the GC or not but he travelled extremely well to the bottom of the hill in the argento so the Ryanair would seem the logical choice.

And the same Menorah who won a Supremw Novece Hurdle, ran a 9 lengths 5th in a Champion Hudle and 3rd in an Arkle but, just as importantly, jumped like he was really getting his act together over fences last time. Add in his preference for decent spring ground and I'm more than happy with my 19 obtained on her thank you, Judorick.

it's got no chance of beating Cue Card

Agreed. I think Cue Card is the better horse but I've always thought he is more of a two-miler so the gap could be further narrowed in the Ryanair.