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Howdi
08 Oct 12 13:01
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Bobs Worth will start fav won't he off his mark which is only 150 something........any early picks??
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Report shockster October 9, 2012 1:34 PM BST
I was thinking more like Fists of Fury off 143.  Last run he split SDC and Hidden Cyclone (wouldn't take it literally).  Has been over here a few times and would give them an idea of where they stand plus feasibly weighted.

Weapons would be good to see but a lot to ask.
Agree LI.
SDC Just don't think they would bring him, but good enough IMO off 162.
FL - I only rate around Chelt.
QDLR - wouldn't back him off 140.
Report strontium October 9, 2012 1:46 PM BST
Good point.

I'm pretty sure they wouldn't bring SDC - only one day matters for him this season.

I take your point about FL. Mixing threads here, but I doubt he stays the Gold Cup trip. I wasn't interested in him as a potential Hennessey winner, but that race, over a similar trip to the CGC, albeit on a very different track, might give a clue.
Report shockster October 9, 2012 1:58 PM BST
FoF been off since January though so might not be fit.  Might throw Carlito Brigante in, but not conviced with him over fences.  Just can't believe they won't have a runner.
Report shockster October 9, 2012 2:18 PM BST
Tharawaat may be the one rated around 140.  Ran well in the GN on good going having looked a mudlark previously.  Who knows???
Report duffy October 9, 2012 4:39 PM BST
I'd like to see on his own sent over, very impressive in the thyestes off 125 but had just got himself into the national and travelling easy when coming down off 148, he looked green in the thyestes and i'd be happy to take a chance on him getting the better part of a stone off bob's worth and co...having said that he'll probably be kept over hurdles until next april....exciting horse nevertheless.
Report wellchief October 9, 2012 5:36 PM BST
Giggi also have Magnanimity, but he is winless for quite a while now, but could get rated in the high 130's?

Sunnyhillboy went up 10lbs for his National second and could be a possible runner, and is off 152; and I doubt they would run Quantitaveeasing because he looks better over a shorter distance.

Another possible runner from the National is Cappa Bleu, who I don't think stays extreme distances that he's been facing in the English and Welsh Nationals - he's off 147, but I think he'd need to be lowered a couple of lbs.

Its a shame Invictus is out injured, I would of loved him in this off 149.
Report Far From Trouble October 9, 2012 9:35 PM BST
I'd still like to see Cue Card show up here Laugh
Report Money On7 October 9, 2012 11:01 PM BST
Hidden Cyclone how far? i know sharky likes to spout off a bit as for example that star neuville was a superstar bumper horse and he would carry them up the hill. however he has rattled about hidden cyclone for a good 3 years and tbh i think he is a smashing horse.
Report revedesivola October 9, 2012 11:19 PM BST
id consider backing diamond harry if it was his first run. lots of promising sorts though and id say itll be a better renewal than last yr
Report shockster October 11, 2012 7:36 PM BST
Have asked Betfair to put an AP market up for this.  I have listed horses mentioned on here, but please feel free to add others.  For anyone who doesn't know it's the Top Thread on the Horse Ante Post Forum if you want to add.

Cheers
Report noflapleft October 12, 2012 6:43 PM BST
Pacha Du polder never really got going last year I am sure they look after his hdc mark for the henny
Report cufcno1 October 12, 2012 11:36 PM BST
if the ground is soft hidden cyclone could be the answer,well handicapped 2nd season chaser !
Report cufcno1 October 12, 2012 11:36 PM BST
if the ground is soft hidden cyclone could be the answer,well handicapped 2nd season chaser !
Report cufcno1 October 12, 2012 11:36 PM BST
if the ground is soft hidden cyclone could be the answer,well handicapped 2nd season chaser !
Report Howdi October 13, 2012 1:09 AM BST
if the ground is soft could hidden cyclone be the answer?
Report Far From Trouble October 14, 2012 12:54 PM BST
he does look a well handicapped 2nd season chaser
Report roobuck October 14, 2012 2:50 PM BST
Only put on to this thread by shockster's post on AP runners.

Whilst he may lack the class of a typical Hennessy winner, I would be interested in Our Mick as a long shot. Continually improved last year and has experience of an open handicap even he'll only be a 2nd season chaser. Not sure from a stamina perspective that deep ground would help him though.
Report shockster October 15, 2012 8:54 AM BST
I thought Ace High made an encouraging comeback on Saturday and would look at him seriously at the bottom of the handicap.
Report racingguru October 15, 2012 9:15 AM BST
Shockster - agree though think trip is a bit far for it.
Report shockster October 15, 2012 9:46 AM BST
I wouldn't be worried about the trip as I think Saturdays race will have brought him on. With race fitness assured I don't think he would have been caught.  Not winning will help his chance as no penalty and rise in the weights.
Report racingguru October 15, 2012 10:47 AM BST
What do you see as top weight?
Report Howdi October 15, 2012 10:54 AM BST
Bobs worth / tidal Bay /
Report racingguru October 15, 2012 11:11 AM BST
Can't see Tidal running but maybe a Burton Port 166. I was hoping its a bad renewal with a topweight around 160 as I like a horse but he's too lowly rated to get in right now.
Report Howdi October 15, 2012 11:11 AM BST
sorry forgot Burton
Report strontium October 15, 2012 1:26 PM BST
Weird Al and The Giant Bolster (both 164) are other possibles who have been mentioned for top weight. It was so much easier when Denman was around!
Report shockster October 15, 2012 3:08 PM BST
Victor Dartnall has confirmed Ace High will get an entry in the Hennessy.  All on the trainers website.  Sounds like the injury last year was quite bad.
Report shockster October 15, 2012 4:26 PM BST
I have been informed by Betfair that the market will be available a week today 22/10.  Don't know why the delay, but you all know as much as I do.
Report shockster October 16, 2012 3:20 PM BST
Carruthers runs on Saturday before he tries(and fails)to retain the Hennessy.  Todays Racing Post.
Report duffy October 16, 2012 5:03 PM BST
shockster
have you quoted them word for word thereSilly
Report shockster October 16, 2012 5:52 PM BST
Not exactly word for word.  Used a bit of license to help point you all in the right direction.Grin
Report LoveTheHigherLaw October 16, 2012 10:11 PM BST
If he is back fit, with all the rain we have been getting I think Pando will swim through the mud and win easily.
Report duffy October 16, 2012 11:54 PM BST
love pandorama, gutted when e got injured at the start of last season....his last experience of newbury wasn't a pleasant one was it.
Report bluebirdfan October 17, 2012 9:21 AM BST
Giant Bolster is going for the Betfair Chase
Report shockster October 17, 2012 8:35 PM BST
We have a market in the Ante Post section.  Just needs prices now. Thanks Betfair
Report racingguru October 18, 2012 5:30 AM BST
I was on Carruthers last year - one of the rides of the year by one of the worst jocks around but that day he was golden.
Report tweedledumbtweedletwat October 18, 2012 9:25 AM BST
il have a ton at 15s if anyone fancies laying it
Report tweedledumbtweedletwat October 18, 2012 9:26 AM BST
sorry wrong topic
Report LoveTheHigherLaw October 18, 2012 10:25 PM BST
Duffy he was badly hamperred from memory. He is some bit of kit with cut in the ground though, I really like the horse.
Report shockster October 22, 2012 9:30 AM BST
Alan King has said Hold On Julio's next race will be the Hennessy.
Report IanD83 October 22, 2012 12:22 PM BST
Mccain said he doesn't like the Hennessy and as he has the National in mind for Weird Al can't think he will run. Also said he will run in the Charlie Hall I think.
Report Howdi October 22, 2012 5:15 PM BST
Wonder why Donald doesn't like the Hen ffs one of the races of the year.
Report shockster October 25, 2012 2:25 PM BST
Pertemps Final winner Cape Tribulation could have the Hennessy on his agenda after probably kicking off in the John Smiths Hdle at Wetherby
Report shockster October 25, 2012 8:57 PM BST
Really fancy Helpston for the 3.40 at Fakenham tomorrow.  Followed up by a serious crack at the Hennessy. Think this horse could be a real progressive sort this season.
Report shockster October 26, 2012 3:48 PM BST
Don't fancy Helpston any more.
Report racingguru October 26, 2012 5:57 PM BST
shockster - sorry i know its after timing but really couldn't have Helpston at all today. Thought he is ridiculously badly handicapped and todays race was hot. Couldn't believe there was support for it. I was saying to a mate this morning I could see Helpston going off 14's as no one will want to touch it.
Report shockster October 26, 2012 6:55 PM BST
That's where we differ RG.  I think he is well handicapped and I believe the weight of money today supports it. FWIW I got 9/1 last night, but for whatever reason he was beat after 4 fences today.  Just can't believe this was his true running.Cry
Report racingguru October 26, 2012 8:00 PM BST
We'll see how the season goes for it. FWIW I reckon he'll need to get down to around 128 to be competive which isn't happening anytime soon.
Report CheltenhamRoar October 26, 2012 8:43 PM BST
i wouldn't give up on him just yet shockster.
He's much better than that.
Report racingguru October 26, 2012 8:45 PM BST
I'd have an even bet with anyone that Helpston doesn't win off 140 or above this season.
Report racingguru October 26, 2012 8:47 PM BST
clarification:  Handicap - 8 runners or more with at least 2/3 of field in handicap.
Report booster October 27, 2012 9:32 PM BST
Obviously Diamond Harry has to come back from a poor season last year but is undeniably well handicapped getting a stone from Burton Port and likely to be better suited to the demands of this race. He was the only horse to go with Kauto Star in the early stages of last year's Betfair Chase (went off 7-2 against him and Long Run) and has been at his best in the early part of the season for 3 years plus flat left hand tracks and soft ground appear to be his optimium. The trainer's horses seem in good nick after today and Noel Fehily would be an ideal jockey. I love this horse and am sure he's got a race like this in him if he can be got right. Can't see any of last year's novices who look particularly well treated and a very open race there for the taking.
Report Howdi October 27, 2012 9:48 PM BST
not sure I agee with last years novices dont look strong
Report Ibrahima Sonko October 27, 2012 9:55 PM BST
indeed

do you think Restless Harry will get an entry as his hurdling career is pointless ?

plus they could had sent him to yogi
Report Howdi October 27, 2012 10:03 PM BST
restless harry has as much chance of winning the henn as me sonko Grin
Report Ibrahima Sonko October 27, 2012 10:07 PM BST
get in, im all in

his chase form in defeat wasnt that bad imo
Report Howdi October 27, 2012 10:39 PM BST
really enjoying the handicaps coming up this year sonko 2 x cracking threads on here this year.
Report booster October 28, 2012 7:47 AM GMT
Howdi, the message wasn't that last year's novices weren't strong but, just as with The Paddy Power, they all seem quite highly rated which means that I don't think they're very well treated. This might mean that like both races last year, there's room for a seemingly more exposed horse to win.
Report revedesivola October 28, 2012 11:57 PM GMT
if sonofvic went for it i reckon hed go well off 140
Report strontium October 29, 2012 12:09 AM GMT
Entries out on Tuesday (unless delayed for a day because of the Paddy Power entries or summit), then we can all take a serious look at the race (and/or congratulate Howdi on divining the winner weeks ago).
Report Howdi October 29, 2012 7:20 AM GMT
ok booster got ya pal.
Report strontium October 31, 2012 1:05 PM GMT
Looks a relatively uninspiring field tbh Plain Carruthers again? Mischief
Report shockster October 31, 2012 1:30 PM GMT
Where's the decs Stront?
Report strontium October 31, 2012 1:35 PM GMT
They are up on the RP site (perhaps they shouldn't be there today...). You may need to search for a horse that's entered (clue - Burton Port) - then its entries, then the card.
Report shockster October 31, 2012 1:38 PM GMT
Cheers
Report shockster October 31, 2012 2:02 PM GMT
Yeah, hope BP stays in to add a bit of quality as others at the top end are unlikely to run.  Overall though it does fall short.  Still it will be competitive as always and will be a great weekend.
Report strontium October 31, 2012 2:10 PM GMT
I think Bobs Worth will run. Tidal Bay might if soft or worse.
Report shockster October 31, 2012 2:30 PM GMT
Then BP will prob run to keep the weight down for Bobsworth.  Tidal Bay is entered in the 3m Hurdle at Wetherby and surely can't win off 166 and top weight in this?
Report strontium October 31, 2012 2:36 PM GMT
He's got such a phenomenal record on soft I wouldn't write him off if that's the ground. What he did in the Whitbread was extraordinary in the conditions. That said, I reckon his targets for the season are the Welsh and Grand Nationals.
Report shockster October 31, 2012 3:23 PM GMT
I really like TB, but has been hammered for the Whitbread win and something has to be improving and well in.  I backed him a couple of years back for the national and he came down, but would be good to see him go in.  He's a character alright.
Report strontium October 31, 2012 3:33 PM GMT
Saver material for me if he runs and the ground's right.

Diamond Harry is interesitng off his mark if it's his reappearence race.

Others may follow once I've got my bets on Grin
Report shockster October 31, 2012 4:51 PM GMT
Agree totally re DH.  If he runs Sat though I doubt he'll run in this unless he comes down early.  If he wins Sat, Handicap mark ruined and a bad run means prob won't run anyway.

At least we'll get a proper market now.
Report buddeliea November 1, 2012 12:45 PM GMT
Ah,Diamond Harry,the horse that can do no wrong.

Has their ever been a more hyped horse?
Report buddeliea November 1, 2012 12:46 PM GMT
Grand Crus maybe??
Report strontium November 1, 2012 1:01 PM GMT
Cheeky Laugh
Report buddeliea November 1, 2012 1:08 PM GMT
Laugh

Seriously though Stront,hes always being talked up on here,but over jumps hes won one decent race,yes it was the Hennessey,fair enough,but he was getting best part of 2 stone from the only real decent horse in the race!! And how long ago was that??

Now hes either pulled up or finishes well down the field,yet still hes touted!!
Report strontium November 1, 2012 1:12 PM GMT
Autumn, flat track, soft ground, first time out is when he's at his best though - I understand why people are keen on him for the Charlie Hall (which doesn't look a very strong race).

I'd consider backing him first time out in the Hennessey off 151 at a price.

His Hennessey win was pretty good - he beat the all time great Denman by a long way (getting lumps of weight) and beat the very decent Burton Port off levels.

The question for me is whether the injury he then sustained finished him off. I suspect it probably did, but I would be prepared to give him one more chance at the right price.
Report buddeliea November 1, 2012 4:31 PM GMT
Yeh,i get the Autumn,Flat track,soft ground bit,and hes been good in the past with that.
But last season?? Werent good mate,and i think hes told us hes had it.
Hope im wrong though,and good luck if you back him.
Report strontium November 1, 2012 4:48 PM GMT
I won't back him on Saturday and I won't back him at Newbury unless it's his first run of the season.
Report shockster November 1, 2012 5:01 PM GMT
If he runs Saturday I will back him (price dependent).  But like Stront will give Hennessy a wide berth if he runs at Wetherby.  However, if he misses Sat and is running off 151 at Newbury having won off 156, I find it hard not to be interested.
Report strontium November 1, 2012 5:13 PM GMT
That's pretty much the way I see it, assuming a decent price at Newbury.
Report buddeliea November 1, 2012 5:13 PM GMT
Yep,i guess the price might get one forgetting last seasons performance.Best be a big one though.

Yes hes off a better mark in the Hennessey,but his form last season really does not scream big race winner.

Still he may come back to his Hennessey form,never know.
Report strontium November 2, 2012 11:57 AM GMT
Diamond Harry not declared at Wetherby after suffering a minor setback [SHOCK!]. May go to Wincanton next week or straight to the Hennessey (or, presumably, neither as and when he has a couple more minor setbacks).
Report buddeliea November 2, 2012 5:00 PM GMT
Has to be a bet on the day horse now-hes become unreliable,and even thats dodgy after last season!!

Still,the bookies should act accordingly and price him up sensibly.
Report shockster November 14, 2012 1:28 PM GMT
Hennessy Weights.


NO.    HORSE    AGE    WGT    TRAINER RTF%    JOCKEY    OR    TS    RPR
2/242-    Burton Port233    8    11-12    Nicky Henderson         166    160    173
2541-1    Tidal Bay28    11    11-12    Paul Nicholls         166    146    172
13PF-    Weird Al231    9    11-10    Donald McCain         164    —    —
72142-    The Giant Bolster260    7    11-10    David Bridgwater         164    166    176
27F7-1    Kauto Stone28    6    11-8    Paul Nicholls         162    118    172
2887-1    Roberto Goldback28    10    11-8    Nicky Henderson         162    129    168
1321-    Bobs Worth262      7    11-6    Nicky Henderson         160    163    174
223-42    First Lieutenant28    7    11-5    M F Morris         159    149    174
85110-    Calgary Bay231    9    11-4    Mick Channon         158    152    171
11P2-1    Cristal Bonus28    6    11-3    Paul Nicholls         157    142    168
61114-    Grands Crus262      7    11-3    David Pipe         157    170    179
21/46-    Ballabriggs231    11    11-2    Donald McCain         156    169    170
5145-4    Time For Rupert28      8    11-1    Paul Webber         155    170    177
82FP-    Junior224    9    11-1    David Pipe         155    145    174
02175-    Quantitativeeasing217      7    11-1    Nicky Henderson         155    165    170
230-5    Planet Of Sound28      10    10-12    Philip Hobbs         152    157    172
P47P-2    Wayward Prince28    8    10-10    Hilary Parrott         150    139    170
110-3    Hold On Julio42    9    10-8    Alan King         148    150    174
18511-    Lion Na Bearnai236    10    10-8    Thomas Gibney         148    94    173
11P3-7    Join Together28    7    10-8    Paul Nicholls         148    156    176
11229-    Shakalakaboomboom231      8    10-8    Nicky Henderson         148    158    173
715U-    Tatenen231    8    10-7    Richard Rowe         147    157    171
1P09-L    Carruthers42      9    10-7    Mark Bradstock         147    132    136
55/4-1    The Package21      9    10-7    David Pipe         147    149    171
21P11-    Teaforthree262    8    10-6    Rebecca Curtis         146    165    175
P0O1-1    Balthazar King42    8    10-6    Philip Hobbs         146    157    171
24U01-    Saint Are231    6    10-5    Tim Vaughan         145    144    171
6050-6    Tartak42      9    10-5    Tim Vaughan         145    165    175
1325-0    Fruity O´Rooney42    9    10-5    Gary Moore         145    157    174
80-614    Muirhead37    9    10-4    Noel Meade         144    150    155
1211-    Problema Tic224    6    10-4    David Pipe         144    146    172
0P1-2    Michel Le Bon21      9    10-4    Paul Nicholls         144    142    174
2511-2    Duke Of Lucca28      7    10-4    Philip Hobbs         144    144    170
121P-    Giles Cross231    10    10-4    Victor Dartnall         144    155    173
6PP-52    Magnanimity44    8    10-3    D T Hughes         143    148    177
45PP-P    Diamond Harry21      9    10-3    Nick Williams         143    166    179
P1FP-3    West End Rocker21      10    10-2    Alan King         142    172    181
2/1-3P    Ace High28      8    10-2    Victor Dartnall         142    118    175
411-05    Cape Tribulation28    8    10-2    Malcolm Jefferson         142    137    167
1112P-    Harry The Viking224      7    10-2    Paul Nicholls         142    158    175
21P-P    Zarrafakt21      8    10-2    Emma Lavelle         142    99    181
211P-4    Ikorodu Road30      9    10-1    Matt Sheppard         141    154    170
3P9-42    Galaxy Rock42    8    10-1    Jonjo O´Neill         141    150    173
21U-4F    Frisco Depot28    8    10-1    Charlie Longsdon         141    149    176
P11-F7    Darna29    6    10-0    Kim Bailey         140    142    172
1/21B-    Soll262    7    9-13    Jo Hughes         139    144    170
1235-3    Alfie Spinner28      7    9-12    Nick Williams         138    153    173
345-34    Fair Along28      10    9-9    Philip Hobbs         135    143    174
1F01-9    Baile Anrai28    8    9-7    Ian Williams         133    128    171
0/90-1    Away We Go39    9    9-1    W P Mullins         127    —    —
408-44    Vino Griego20    7    8-13    Gary Moore         125    140    162
29P112    Bundle Of Fun27      9    8-12    W P Mullins         124    138    161
Spread Betting
Report shockster November 14, 2012 1:30 PM GMT
Diamond Harry 143 if you dare. I daredn'tShocked
Report strontium November 14, 2012 2:06 PM GMT
Not now! Have dodged a bullet I feel Plain

T43 has a lovely racing weight and could be staying on to pick up the pieces.
Report Ibrahima Sonko November 14, 2012 3:59 PM GMT
I was hoping Restless Harry would get an entry, i know his jumping isnt brilliant but his form wasnt that bad.
Report stevo1 November 14, 2012 4:55 PM GMT
Hold on Julio if you forget his Festival run when not right could be well in imo.
Report dtamutants November 14, 2012 5:58 PM GMT
Saint Are for me. Took some 25s earlier today, which I see is now gone, so I'd imagine it will be the pricewise tomorrow?
Report bluebirdfan November 14, 2012 6:30 PM GMT
I can see the Package being pricewise
Report wellchief November 14, 2012 6:40 PM GMT
Shakalakaboomboom for me if he runs.  Nice weight of 10st 8 (a mark of 148), and travelled really smoothly for 95% of the National and just didn't get home.

I've got a feeling that between us, we'll put up about 15 different selections Grin
Report shockster November 24, 2012 9:35 PM GMT
Only a week to go.  Tidal Bay????  Bobsworth looks solid, but Alfie Spinner and Duke of Lucca are well weighted IMO.
Report harry callaghan November 25, 2012 6:00 AM GMT
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Saver material for me if he runs and the ground's right.

Diamond Harry is interesitng off his mark if it's his reappearence race.

Others may follow once I've got my bets on Grin




I'll crack the jokes....the horse is a corpse










another brilliant thread on betfair full of insight and a real look at the hennessy cognac gold cup....just great can't wait to post...a 4 page thread full of daily sport comments just fantastic.... do not know where to start..... we can all learn from this, that is for sure...lol...lets start with alfie spinner a non runner?? or even teeforthree also a non runner or weird al...am confused cause its so interesting....

I can see why if you post comments everyday you can get up to 3000 replies/comments worthless....thats my goal..really want to get there....just want to be in the gang

any ideas on worthless comments to build my replies?????????brilliant just want to be up there on the score sheets...

if you get there you are respected right???

how do I go about doing it???

love to be in the daily sport gang thats all...

cracks me up a forum with no insight...4 pages of dross

can't wait to read howdis next thread...

let me guess...paul jones insight into the hennessy or graham cunninghams last poo and how he left skids on the pan...i wait with bated breath...
Report shockster November 25, 2012 11:11 AM GMT
LOLLaugh.  Another reply for me.
Report sageform November 25, 2012 3:36 PM GMT
Just had a look at the entries and my 3 provisional choices are Burton Port, First Lieutenant and Michel le Bon.
Report Howdi November 25, 2012 3:41 PM GMT
I think Bobs Worth looks a price to me no depth and dissapointing list imo.
Report shockster November 26, 2012 1:05 PM GMT
Nice to see 2 out of 3 of Harry Callaghans selections on his own thread are NON RUNNERS. Wonderful insight. Laugh
Report gutfeeling November 26, 2012 2:42 PM GMT
For anyone who likes these kind of field narrowing statistical angles,

10 out of 10 winners had won a race at class 2 or higher over fences.
9 out of 10 winners had run in 3 or fewer handicap chases.
9 out of 10 winners had won over 3m1f+.
9 out of 10 winners had finished in the first two on their last completed start.
8 out of 10 winners had won a graded/listed chase.
8 out of 10 winners had won at least 50% of their chase starts.
7 out of 10 winners had run 3 to 6 times over fences.
7 out of 10 winners were second season chasers.
7 out of 10 winners were Irish bred with two being British and one French.
Running Style
9 of the last 10 winners, including the last 7, raced with the leaders throughout.
Trainers
Paul Nicholls has had 3 winners and 6 placed horses in the past 8 years from 22 runners.
Price
7 of the last 8 winners were sent off at 10/1 or shorter.
6 of the last 8 winners have been in the first 3 in the betting.
Conclusion
Based on the last 10 years the following trends are worth bearing in mind:
A horse aged 6 or 7
A horse with an official rating between 150 and 158
A horse carrying 11-0+ but not necessarily relevant this year
A horse that had won a race at class 2 or higher over fences at 3m1f+
A horse that had run 3 to 6 times over fences, winning at least half
A horse that had run in 3 or fewer handicap chases
A horse that had finished in the first two last time out
A horse that was bred in Ireland
A horse that races prominently and is 10/1 or shorter
Report shockster November 26, 2012 4:35 PM GMT
Paul Nicholls on his Hennessy Gold Cup duo: “Tidal Bay definitely runs, and we'll be keeping an eye on the weather for Harry The Viking.”
Report Howdi December 2, 2012 6:27 PM GMT
harr you have the game by the balls pal Laugh
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