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didnt mind him trying on vdv but to call it the ride of the meeting like luck,walsh etc did is plainly stupid as staying where he was could have resulted in victory
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ruby on boston bob......shocking stuff
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It's a tie between Walsh's efforts on Hurricane Fly and Boston Bob. I've long thought he's an overrated numpty, I now rest my case.
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Ruby/McCoy in the Champ Hurdle or Ruby on Boston Bob. All three were feckin amateurish if you ask me.
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binocular given a total shocker
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hopefully ruby retires
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If Ruby was bad on Hurricane who was supposed to be the bomb proof best horse in the race, who could pick them up at will, what on earth can anyone say about McCoy giving this supposed best horse lengths on Binocular and letting proven stayers like Overturn and Rock on a lead of so much?
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agree was an absolute shocker eeternal
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I think you are being very harsh on Ruby with his ride on Boston Bob. As I bet it, I watched it the whole way and it was never going. Nothing whatsoever to do with the jockey. It may have needed more cut but Ruby was urging him on all the way. In fact I would go as far as to say, if RW was not on it, it would never have got as near to winning as it did.
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McCoy Binocular was the worst by some way!
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No problem with the boston bob ride at all.
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Would Binocular have won with a better ride?
Ofcourse not. Might have got 3rd..... Not helped by an awful jump at the last. If that was a bad ride then so were 99% of the others at the festival. |
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We will never know Ebouie, if he had been close up we would have found out. To have him behind HF was insanity. Even with the awful ride he would have been third without the uncharacteristic mistake at the last.
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rubys ride on bostoner was awful, held him up for too long even when he was maken mistakes he still was holding onto him....starting moving on him far too late to even get him into the race, rubys best days are well and truly over, he had 2 winners at cheltenham, big bucks and quevega....i could even win on those.
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boston bob that was...dont know who bostoner is ?
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Look at where Grand Vision was. Perfect position if ruby sits there Boston Bob wins. How anyone can defend the ride on Binocular I have no idea clearly need to give up as they can't race read.
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Not wanting to jump on the bandwagon but having watched the GC several times since, SWC hasn't made the most of what that horse has to give - staying at good pace. Left it way to late to get going on him, presumably as he thought he was home with his only serious challenger KS not longer in the race. Credit to AP for getting Synchronised right after a dodgy start but shouldn't have been allowed a slow race and a sprint to win.
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The problem with the Bino ride as his poor judgement
Bino was a bad ride because he rode to beat the one horse who was also on a bad ride. Hard to know that it was difficult to come from that far back on the first day but nevertheless Binocular has never been a deep hold up horse. His usual style is to be "held up in touch" if you read most of his in running comments. The fact that the winner and second were horses he has beaten recently when tracking them from not far behind only confirms how badly judged the ride was and the fact that Overturn lead them a merry dance and managed to finish 2nd shows it was quite a steadily run affair because when he is forced to race faster than he would like he crumbles . The winner sat in 3rd place most of the way again showing the benefit of being prominent |
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Boston Bob was never traveling a yard did well to finish as close as he did! Tom Scu on Kazliann was very average in my opinion
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Agree with both comments MC and Tom Scu wasn't any better on Balgarry, gave the horse little chance of getting home by kicking on too far out.
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You can be critical of SWC for not kicking on and I am but surely you have to take account of the level of the jockey when picking out stand out worst rides?
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Apart from Salut Flo all the pipe horses seem to just flatten out 3 furlongs out
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Agree to some degree Eternal but although he's an 'amateur' he's not inexperienced. Saying that, if he'd have won with that strategy, I wouldn't be on here.
Can't say I fault a lot of the others, I thought Lynch made the right call to go standside on VLV as he was on a charge with plenty left by the looks of it. |
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Tom Scu on Kazlian was poor....OP, the idea that VLV lost 3 lengths thru that maneouvre is ridiculous
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oI thought Thornton went way too early for home on Grumeti and then got outstayed in the run in.
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yes maybe but that is a minor error of race judgement - but overall it wasn't a bad ride he did give the horse every chance if he was good enough
can't say the same for McCoy - and the market knew too Bino was trading at 11, 12 and higher from before halfway |
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Lynch gave VLV a great ride. Eyeballing Big Bucks is not the way forward, he gave the mare the best chance... but Bucksy spotted her... oi NO!
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I thought Lynch on Voler La Vedette was one of the rides of the week. Switching to the rail in order to try go by somewhat unnoticed was a stroke of genius, and Ruby pulling Big Bucks across to her likewise. Fantastic from both jockeys imo.
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tom scu on battle group et al. salut flo i would have won on. ok overseer did well but overall its time the pipes got a proper jock
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If Lynch had tracked Big Bucks over the last,and used her speed in one burst,he might have turned over the jolly,but he needlessly gave up 3 or 4 lengths switching position.He should have sat on BBs tail for as long as possible.Tom Scu on Kazilian gets my bronze medal.
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Ruby Walsh didn't cover himself in glory for someone so experienced.
Tom Scudamore on Kazlian was bad - rushed him up early and kicked on too early. Sam Waley-Cohen got boxed in (and basically outridden) by both Geraghty on Burton Point, then McCoy, taking advantage of Long Run being boxed in and being a better jockey anyway. You can't fault SWC. He is an amateur and rode like one. If they want Long Run to win anything significant again, then Geraghty must be given the ride. |
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rubys best days are well and truly over
Laughable |
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hammy sitting in behind BB would only have made him more aware of the challenge. VLV got as close because of a clever ride that is certainly my view and that of the trainer plus many 'experts'.
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Agree about Andrew Lynch on Sailors Warn - dreadful ride.
Also Paul Carberry on Shadow Catcher in the Triumph - went for the last to first glory ride up the inside all the way and surprise, surprise got constantly hampered and impeded. ![]() |
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If Lynch had tracked Big Bucks over the last,and used her speed in one burst,he might have turned over the jolly,but he needlessly gave up 3 or 4 lengths switching position
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I'm still very annoyed with AP for denying Binocular (one of my fave horses ever) the chance of a possible second Champion Hurdle title, because of his bad decision.
Very poor ride from AP, who seemed to think he only had The Fly to beat. This is what he said, himself, about the ride, in his Telegraph column - "Binocular ran well in fourth but I tracked the wrong horse in Hurricane Fly and, if I could ride the race again, I would have definitely been closer to the pace than I was. That said, I was still disappointed that I could not get past Hurricane Fly." Whatever the outcome, The Champion Hurdle is my favourite race of the entire jumps season but I was left feeling very flat after this year's race ![]() I was thrilled for Noel Fehily tho', a great jockey, and he and Rock On Ruby thoroughly deserved their win ![]() |
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Toner Dodaires was worst ride as he went far to soon on him. If he had held on to him he would have pissed imo also Ruby did"nt cover himself in glory on Boston Bob. He should"ve made more use of him. Roll on 2013
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I don't see how McCoy can be disappointed that he didn't get past The Fly. He was never even in a position to do that and when he eventually did the horse had been under so much pressure for so long that he didn't do the one thing which he has always does so well, namely jump.
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McCoy basically got in his head I'm going to follow Hurricane Fly. As the race developed I am shocked that the multiple champion jockey didn't have the brain to realise the race was going on ahead. He even follows Hurricane Fly wide of O Wells I think it was when he had a clear passage up the inside. Awful awful ride having watched replays this is clearly the worst ride of the festival if not a decade of festivals. Whether he would have won or not is irrelevant head NO chance from the start.
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