Calling Joci & Judo

well thanks for the compliment but there are plenty of very knowledgable guys on here, you could ask any number of them for their best bets! sounding clever is one thing but the proof of the pudding will be in the eating mate

for what it is worth I will nominate Burton Port in the Gold Cup

Cheers bigal, though I certainly wouldn't regard myself as much more knowledgable than most here.

For a nice e/w double at big prices, I think Join Together in the RSA Chase should acquit hiself well, and has Cheltenham form, and I'd be surprised if he didn't make the frame.

And  a nice ousider in The Bumper would be Sir Johnson, who seems to be under many radars, but has good form with one of the market principals that sems to have neeb overlooked by many.

If you don't fancy those, then others at decent prices might be Tetlami, and Pearl Swan.

Good luck whatever you do as it's tough enough picking a single winner let alone doubles etc!

Cheers Judo - true a lot of knowledge on here but few as interesting to read and genuine as you and Joci in my opinion. Intersting pick as I do think Long Run and Kauto very vulnerable - we will see.

Bring it on!!

Cheers Joci

OK so Burton Point and Join Together it is.

Lets hope it is a good week for all.

758/1721£60.00 EW Double
  Selection Price
Cheltenham 2012: BetFred Gold Cup : Outright Prices-Nr No Bet
EW: 1/4 1,2,3 Burton Port 9/1
Cheltenham 2012: RSA Chase : Outright Prices-Nr No Bet
EW: 1/4 1,2,3 Join Together 6/1
Total stake £120.00
Estimated return £4,687.50

Full stake £ 120.00
Full Estimated return £ 4,687.50


£10 e/w of the double is for you boys - got special 9/1 on stan james for Burton point too.

i agree with join together too so fingers crossed

How the hell did you get sid james to accept a bet like that?  Went back to my old account from 2 years ago just this week to see if they had relented on stakes.  Tried to put a £20ew single on at 16/1 (topping up what another site wouldn't let me have) - offered me £0.83p  Tried to put a £5ew trixie on instead, offered it to me at £0.03p!  The amazingly good news is that I still had a  balance on the account that I had completely forgotten about, just over £940!  Sounds incredibly stupid I know but it was from 2 years ago when I was in the best run of form in my life, I probably just left it there because I wasn't in a hurry for it. Just been round my other old accounts and there was also £195 at blue square.  Duh! 

Good luck with the bet fella.

A nice unexpected bonus!

yes very generous ta

only a nice bonus if you boys haven't ucked it up

you about harry?

what about Murray getting mullered by GGL? done my bets the world of good, del boy won his match too... all looking good

murray shocking mate, 30+ UEs in 30 games

hey judo...yes just got in, shocking result for the cry boy, what was wrong with him?...good results for you...how did delpo look? and of course the great man last night??

judo becauseicantsee going out on tipping line tomoz...so if you want any of the price take some...

well, Del Boy took a bit of time to get going but crushed the second set

the Main Man was in imperious form, crisp groundies and sharp movement

Nadal just took first set 6-1 against a tree

Murray was inept in every department. Served 61%, had 4 BPs first set couldn't take one and got broken at 4-4 from 40-15 with 4 UEs on the bounce, GGL served out with no worries. Murray then loses serve first game second set, saved 5 BPs but still broken after 15 mins. Never in the match after that and was lucky not to get a breadstick.

Was running around 15 foot behind baseline and GGL was winning every rally that went 10+ strokes. One of the worst performances, if not the worst, I have ever seen. Absolute GASH lol

great for my bets though - not for my sleep pattern before the Festival though, it didn't start til 4am

I've already had a few quid as I thought it would shorten after you said Nina was gonna be booked to ride

good stuff...how was djokers forehand any unforced or imperious...glad to here about the movement...an outstanding man to win that aussie at 80%imo

totally imperious mate

lovely stuff...very excited for the majors pal will take some beating if remaining injury free

yes you are going to be shhagged if you combine the 2...cheltenham very important but if the money is there what can you do??

i'm not gonna do any more now, there is no liquidity in the markets for some reason so will focus on the festival where there is plenty of money

there's another tennis tourney round the corner

what do you make of this make your mark in the neptune?am tempted to forgive him the run on bottomless last time..better ground will suit and think it is now a poor renewal...am gagging to get this simonsig...

cant see why it (Simon) is so short. For me it should be 5/1 the field. But Make Your Mark is there for the experience I should think and I wouldn't be forgiving it myself

thats fair its just sometimes you get a good ground horse who gets stuck in the mud and just wonder whether that slog wasn't for him...haven't backed it...have money on sous le cieux but not sure about him...battonier will can't win and will run in the coral cup...don't like monksland anymore as hasn't prepped and wasn't that fluent last time so have an angle into the race...just need the key

Travelled like best horse lto against Boston Bob,maybe improve a little on better ground agree fav way too short.

hey steve yes it did...but not sure how good he is but race stinks to me

maybe i'm looking into it to much and sous le cieux will just bring the money home...

the race stinks every year

I like sous harry, thought the way he finished the race last time was very eye catching and he will improve for the longer trip.

yes have liked him all season myself and lost lengths with that mistake 2 out...now they have figured out how to ride him and also train him, after they felt he ran his race at home when beaten in the christmas stars race...will like you say improve for the trip...lots on here knocked him last time but think the winner could be decent over shorter and was 6 wide into the straight...he has a chance but its tricky...monksland i have buttons on but is a rancid price for this now

You know I smacked that SLC at 9/2 and all the way down in the Deloitte - should have won and I was lucky to get out in play he was never winning

he could step up big time here in a fast run race

galileo will be a clue in the supreme

yes agree but sous will need to hurdle more fluently to win the neptune and still also has to prove he really likes better ground, it was pretty soft when beating galileos...think he will be ok but still has questions to answer...i've backed it but still have my reservations

any news on who is riding galileos judo?

still no jock booked for him - still 14/1 is nice enough whoever is on. I have gone Montbazon at 10 and Tetlami at 16 too. Just wondering whether to go Darlan for zero loss, but that takes a big chunk of green away... what you think?

yes Sous will have to jump better but I think he will if they go quick enough

Think Baldys are going money back if darlan wins the Supreme

well the roulette race is tight but am not keen on darlan as think he is a flat track horse but could be a back to lay even at the odds as does travel...

like galileos but won't touch if robbie is on board...lots of money about for the king horse but think he will be better over further but they normally go quick so can go well...have just had my first bet in the race and it is on tetlami just like him and think the track will also bring about improvement, happy with the price on him...am struggling as not that keen on the market leaders but although he is rogue ish this colour squadron isn't without hope...i'm going to stick with tetlami and am starting to build towards a nice ew bet on him and am content,likeable chap, just waiting for a few to go first 4 before unleashing a few more pounds on the beast...i would stick where you are as looks like a nice book to me and play in the run and hope there isn't 5 in line over the last, so's to not have carnage

yes will do, as i said in my little notebook darlan strictly no bet

so will be looking to green up in play but only if one or more goes short , like Montbazon comes there motoring and goes 2.0 I will green up for  at least half the total liability somethin like that

its a shame, had mont but down as a neptune horse but the supreme is normally run fast so should be ok...

trouble you have got in running as see a lot of travellers in this could be carnage for the in running player...cinders traveller as is mont as is galileos as is darlan...plus others can't wait to see the slick jumping tetlami in a big field round cheltenham...

one thing i will say without ramping as hate that as is very interesting that geraghty was so keen for simonsig to miss this and rides tetlami...just a thought...that i like.

what you making of the RSA now??

don't like all the top lot not prepping??

upset??

he did say it was nowhere near darlan but i'm not buying it

often an upset in the RSA - cant keep backing hendo horses but do like bobs worth

gonna be laying the fav if it runs

probably is on the gallops, any horse that travels like that, must be a good worker...tetlami is workmanlike but will be much better on a bigger track and won a decent bumper round cheltenham in a big field...darlan was travelling at newbury but race was run to suit(slow fractions) and track was right up his alley also is going to chelt on the back of a fall not ideal and is 9-2

yeah rotten price for the horse and isn't McCoy on it? I don't think he rides Cheltenham particularly well despite pushing and shoving wichita lineman all the way - he's all competitive and gotta be making moves and race riding all the time... don't think that is the style you need myself, I rarely back his mounts tbh

yes am on the bobs worth at 12's just love this beast just watch him in the last 50 yards at newbury extended his neck...got to love a horse with an attitude like that...work at a printers and am already getting the canvas ready for when the bobs worth finds up the hill...track will be much more to his liking and would love it if the horse can do it...lovely prep run and the horse looked in desperate need of the race...don't like join together i see your keen along with others but don't think his form adds up to much...beat handicappers first time at chelt then beat mossley easy...not worth a dime that...first lieutenant interests me as he has plenty of experience, reminds me of sizings campaign before winnig the arkle but 9-2 makes little appeal...got to take grands crus on...can't see a lot else although call the police would be interesting at big odds as thought he ran a nice race last time...

mccoy is a great hurdle jockey but because he is mccoy quite often his horses are under valued

yes join together is only one of those trend bets and I will be laying the fav to be green on everything else

nalbandian knocking up before playing cilic

classy player

yes an enigma for me though nalbandian...not watching much at the mo as cheltenham is eating all my time...

very interested in the cross country am dead against the habitual loser scotts irish

Even bigger fan of Nalbandian than JMDP.  Thought he was outrageously unlucky that year that Roddick won the US Open, had Roddick on the ropes in the semi and injured his wrist.  One of the few players who could regularly beat the Fed when he was at his peak.

yeah love watching him play

good old fat dave

yep on his day was a cracking player...getting on now the old boy

Yep, sad to say tennis players age even faster than French bred chasers

had a load of injury too

hope he takes out cilic who is looking very chunky round the middle

Never had live paddock reports on tennis before...

want in running betting advice?

nald 1.25 in play

1.07 at the moment, has Cilic fallen?

dave 3-0 up first set

Go Dave!

for Dr Cypionate, read the OP

how many forumites have started threads like this about you?

knut

Bump for Dr knut

hey judo hows things? shame about galileos with the amateur on board...cannot understand why they haven't put a jockey up

alright mate

just done a lovely bit of business on berdych lumped 1.41 pre match and he broke A - Rod first game, price collapsed, chunky green both sides which I will have on a horsey

how's you?

yes mcnamara is a thumbs down for me but there you go

ye ok just had a nice drop of vodka to ease the nerves for tomoz...yes liked berdy...am laying nalbandian tonight plenty short enough...any views??

hmm that's tricky, he might get a fast start, definitely got the game to trouble tipsy... hmm will think about it

yeah i am nervous-excited, but I am tee total and a non smoker so its tea and fingernails for me

novak was looking good dude

oh lovely...well am afraid always get nervous when the cash is down and needed a drink to help + 20 ****...looking forward to tomoz...am thinking about magnamity in the william hill...first time visor...will love the ground

aww yeah plenty nervous but i am in a good position of not being bothered if i lose, i just like winning

yes we all like the winning am in for plenty now...tetlami for a good start...

awful turnout for the arkle pal..think sprinter will take the beating now

small field against al ferof i'd say...any opinion...your sprinter bet aside??

yes well I am on the Tetlami too

and I just have the Sprinter so far clear it is crazy, probably pile in again certainly with the tennis winnings

small field bound to suit SS more than AF who needs a frenetic all out gallop surely? Won't get that tomoz

I have advised my pals place lay AF

yes agree on the place lay al ferof needs a big field...if cue card hadn't been injured a few weeks ago he would interest me in the place market but don't like horses who have had an interupted prep