Cheltenham Festival
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09 Mar 12
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I have heard that Prospect Wells (who traded at 1.01 vs Steps to Freedom- losing by only a neck with 2nd string jockey Jacob on board) is better than ever after his breathing operation. That Cheltenham form was his warm-up. Nicholls has a tendency of diagnosing horse problems and getting them as good as ever (look at Kauto Star). Prospect Wells is not finished: he has 1st string and possibly best jockey around in Ruby on board- who has won this race twice in recent years; the horse essentially has C&D form at 1.01 earlier in season; and the owners won this with Arcalis not too long ago. I understand that the Wylie owners sent TWO CLASS HORSES away from Howard Johnson- one to Willie Mullins in Boston Bob and Prospect Wells to Nicholls. The former is clear FAV in another race. Prospect Wells hasn't fallen so you know it jumps unlike some in this race and the horse would not be there with Ruby on board if they didn't believe in it. WATCH THIS SPACE... IF NOT FOR WIN, THIS WILL TRADE BELOW 4.0 IN RUNNING. Al Ferof surprised many last year and once again, the champion trainer and class jockey are overpriced.
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Ruby wont be riding it.
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He won't be riding for Gigginstown (both Mullins) so who will he ride for then? He has never rode for Gigginstown at Cheltenham.
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Apologies only one Gigginstown is Mullins- Midnight Game. My point is Ruby has not been on that. The other Mullins horse Allure of Illusion is too long odds and unfancied.
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Obviously Mullins has more entered than 2 but surely Ruby won't be on anything that long! Taking Prospect Wells in the Tolworth at Sandown suggests Nicholls and the owners were trying to bond horse and jockey for the Supreme.
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Im not sure of the riding orders in regard to gigginstown but Mullins has not trained many for them before.....
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Good point Sonko. :)
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if Ruby has a choice of PW, Midnight Game or Allure of Illusion who does he pick? I would struggle myself!!!
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I would think he will be on midnight game....
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Yes it would seem Midnight Game would be the option, but I just struggle to see how a jockey who has never been on a particular horse would ride out first race on it. Then there is the Gigginstown / Davy Russell factor, and the fact Mullins has said on **** preview that Midnight Game is not doing too well at home.
Prospect Wells went off FAV vs Colour Squadron in Grade 1 at Sandown on his last race, a race Nicholls farms, and Ruby returned saying horse breathing was wrong on the first bend. They believe in 2nd chances, like Kauto, so they'll give this a go with Ruby. |
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Already on @30,got a big chance imo and well over priced,but needs a b@lls of steel ride,gotta be held up until the last moment,would advise any one to forget about its last run,cannot wait.
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Already backed, along with Tetlami
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zil knows
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Owner retained rider surely takes precedence over trainer retained rider.
McCoy wouldn't be jocked off one of JP's that was trained by Nicholls or Mullins, hard to see Ruby getting to ride Midnight Game, should be free to ride this one. Not backed this fella since he flopped in the Niel, considering it though. |
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If Davy Russell chooses Trifolium which there is every chance he could do - Ruby will surely be on Midnight Game
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Hadn't considered that possibility!
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if midnight game runs
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So Ruby's going to jump on one,that Davy's turned down cos he's poorly(or he would deffo be on),instead of PW who's had an operation,that improved a Nicholls Cheltenham winner last season.
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My only worry with PW is that Nichols decides to run him in the County hurdle,where he does look very well in imo.
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Thatw as my thought as well TT, which is why i didnt back him on here!!!
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That's why you are shrewder than me Zil
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This has been the PW plan for sometime,though I appreciate he could shaft punters like DMc,it's not normally his style.
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well known celebrity who would know tipped him up for CORAL CUP at a recent FORUM in Ireland
does seem well in on balance of form both flat and jumping the other thing I feel he will be much better served by really good ground which he will get next week take the 16/1 NRNB for Coral Cup |
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Not in the Coral cup
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Hopefully Ruby rides Midnight Game
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anyone any update on target, last time i looked on exchanges still looks like 50/50 call between and supreme and county. got pw in alot of each multiples so need it in the supreme.
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This is from the 29th Feb, sounds like Supreme was the target at least at that stage -
Wylie's only other major Festival contender is the Paul Nicholls-trained Prospect Wells, who will line up in the opening Supreme Novices' Hurdle. Although disappointing in the Tolworth Hurdle on his latest appearance, his owner hopes a subsequent breathing operation can see him bounce back to form. "I've spoken to Paul and he tells me Prospect Wells has had the breathing operation and seems to be back in good form. He'll be fit and ready for the Supreme and I think we can put a line through his last run as that is when the breathing issue came to light," Wylie added. "We thought it might just be because it had come too soon after his run in the Ladbroke, but Ruby (Walsh) said he could feel there was a problem before the first turn. Hopefully that is behind him now and he can run well at Cheltenham." |
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guess the sp,with Ruby on board?
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Wouldn't like to guess as I don't think he will be on board, but I'm keen on this one regardless. The 4th in the Ladbroke was no disgrace, didn't get the strong pace he needs and gave him good experience of hurdling in big fields. Chalk off the Tolworth run as something was wrong and has since had a wind op.
I know he won't be one for the trends boys given the two 4's next to his name, but I think in a Supreme which is difficult to pick apart he looks worth taking at the price. |
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This is my dart in the opener. Wasn't going to bother after Waaheb killed several of my dreams, but as stated above he didn't get the strong pace in the Ladbroke and if you watch he is finishing faster than anything in that race. Certain to get a strong pace here and I find it easy to ignore his last run.
20/1, deal. |
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I put this horse in an acca way back when it beat All The Aces at Newbury. Had more or less given up on the bet until recently. The ground has come right and the vibes are there again. I think Ruby will ride as DRussell bound to opt for Midnight Game imo. Good value at 20-1 (not so good at the 10's I secured :()
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Ruby is on PW, what a mug
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he knows |
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Does look like PW has an awful lot in its favour tomorrow.
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Ibra,backed it because the price was all wrong at the time,forget about its last run,wasn't right,its form prior to that puts him bang there,gl
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Think Nicholls might have made an error here. Horse would have carried only 10-8 in the County Hurdle and would have had a very live chance - seems crazy not to take advantage of that. Can't have it getting anyway in the Supreme but will happily eat my words if he does!
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Did think he might go to the County tbh Glossy,still might yet,you never know
all about opinions innit,good luck |
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Glossy he probably wouldn't have had 10-8 in the county Brampour was top weight and he goes for the champion so the weights would go up 6lbs at least and if GMOOH runs in the coral cup the weights would have gone up 11lbs. Which would mean he had a lot of weight for a novice to carry in the county.
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I'm on PW since last year but I'm no longer sure.
The Post reads something into Walsh picking him over the Mullins trio but since Davy Russell has the retainer for Midnight Game, that means nothing. Of course we must disregard PW's last run, since when he has had a wind op, but is there not a school of thought that it is a horse's second run back that it counts, because on the first run back the horse still expects to choke so holds back a bit? What are the vibes from Ditcheat? It is the most open yard in the country, and Ruby and Nicholls have been clocking up the air miles in Cheltenham Previews, so where is the buzz? I'd like to see my bet landed but I won't be pressing up. |
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it means something when Russell chooses Trifolium.
dont look good for backers of Midnight game |