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Total non story. Not his fault that horses are odds on.
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Just wait until they add another day
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My liver is only set up for 4.
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It is his fault. Too many races = too much choice = easier options outside the big races = weaker fields in the big races. If there was no mares race, Quevega would be odds against elsewhere; if there was no Jewson, Peddlers would be in the Arkle.
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Actually it is his fault the horses are odds on. He has been the driving force in adding extra races to the meeting which has diluted the quality of the fields.
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I don't like dilution of meetings, but not sure what other hosses would prevent HF and SS being odds on?
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what horses could line up against SS, HF and SE that would make any real difference to the races? just PC for the Arkle really, there's nothing running elsewhere that could trouble the Fly and Sizing has beaten everything that he could face. The Mares race is useless I agree though
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....and the Fred Winter has turned the Triumph into a true championship, rather than a lottery.
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Cristal Bonus would be a most intriguing (and yet possible) runner in the Arkle.
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johnn • March 7, 2012 8:17 PM GMT
Total non story. Not his fault that horses are odds on. Course its his fault. He introduced the Jewson that meant that half the Arkle horses dont line up. And without the Mares, Quevega and Unaccompanied would be in the Champion Hurdle/World Hurdle, two other races with odds on favourites. |
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What horses would make a difference ?
Peddlers would have been a strong 2nd fav and there are numerous horses in the Jewson that 2 years ago would be going for either the Arkle or the Rsa. Whilst the Ryanair is fast becoming my favourite race there is no question that it has diluted the competitiveness of both the Gold Cup and the Queen Mother...........and a horse of the quality of Quevega really should be running in the Champion or the World Hurdle. I agree about the Triumph /Fred Winter. |
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Having quoted the example of the Fred Winter, I have to say that I think that's the only real enhancement of the programme. I remember when you could readily remember all 18 winners at each Festival and, while the Bumper was a logical addition, most of the other races are not. Quite where we will be when they add the fifth day, i don't know but the trend, if there is one, towards avoiding the superstars can only increase. With today's programme, I think Arkle would have had two walkovers in his last two Gold Cups.
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the first three/four races on the tuesday (in both the 3 or 4 day fetsival) in my opinion are the best start to a racing festival you can get
who cares what prices the fav starts at they are either the next Golden Cygnet/Brave Inca or the next Dunguib/Cue Card thats the charm to me anyway you are looking to get the festival off to a start or see the fav beat.. its not like anyone puts a gun to your head to bet and it makes the monday night great by the time you get to the course even with the on line phone bookies you are gagging to get a bet on due to some conversation/overheard conversation/morning paper/ maybe i am misisng a trick but isn't that what nakes it great..yes the new races have led to a few defections but the prices to me reflect the interest in those first races as much as anything for the general public the gold cup is the be all..personally love the tuesday and wednesday and am gutted to be missing it interestingly the melb cup carnival the saturday is for the purists loads of group ones the victorian derby, the melb cup day is like gold cup day but worse racing wise sold as a one event bonanza..and attended with that in mind not a cricicsm just the way i see it |
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I think the more true racing fans make their voices heard - that this is entirely Mr Gillespie's fault with the dilution of competition with the addition of dopey races, the less the wholesale rush to a five day festival.
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hope to see you back at the Festival in the not too distant Clockend! At least you have Molly Malones this year!
I fully agree with you about the start of the Festival - different class! Lets hope Gillespie doesn't balls it up with the inexorable move to a 5-day Festival. I fear the worst though. |
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I think this is the worst year for AP prices & "will he wont he"?. Just as an example, I remember when the Arkle fav went off 5 or 6-1. What happened to the 40 odd 2011 Supreme/Neptune horses, are you trying to tell me we will only have 6 runners in this years Arkle?. Punters still have no idea what race GC/SDC/BB/Ted Spread/etc are running in?. I nominate the Jewson, Mares, XCountry & AB as being totally uncall for. Although I love the festival (and always will) like the races, my anticipation is becoming more & more diluted each year.
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8/3/12
Greg Wood guardian.co.uk Twitter: @Greg_Wood_ Re today's Guardian piece,(Edward Gillespie defends uncompetitive Cheltenham Festival opening day) I did not use "defend" anywhere in copy, AND quite deliberately, as in my opinion Edward Gillespie has absolutely nothing to defend. The headline misses that significant point completely, but I don't write the headlines. Using "defend" in headline implies that there has been some kind of "attack" on the quality of first day card, which is nonsense. |
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Can someone who uses Twitter get back to Greg Wood and point him at this forum for starters.
I think he'll find an 'attack' of some substance on the quality of day one (for starters) at the festival, which can be laid entirely at the door of the Cheltenham Exec IMO |
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@Greg_Wood_ on the betfair forum you'll find an attack of some substance re quality of day 1 of the festival, explicitly blaming Mr Gillespie.
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Jewson didn't feck anything up last year it is this get rid of it.
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