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Bright Spark
04 Mar 12 18:30
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from 1.9 to 2.08.
Any slight cause for concern, or just an opportunity to back above evens before it goes back odds on.....
Pause Switch to Standard View Hurricane Fly...why the slight drift?
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Report Glossy March 4, 2012 6:33 PM GMT
Quite a significant drift for a supposedly 'bomb proof' horse.

Something up at the Mullins yard? Would explain the big weakness in Scotsirish's price too?
Report Rod Tidwell March 4, 2012 6:37 PM GMT
more to do with Hills going 5/4 for a time tomorrow morning I imagine?
Report Martin pipe returns March 4, 2012 6:38 PM GMT
If they are then they are bonkers.
Report Rod Tidwell March 4, 2012 6:40 PM GMT
Graham Sharpe and Kate Miller been tweeting it in last hour
Report Mister Westsound March 4, 2012 6:40 PM GMT
FFS I'm going to disconnect my broadband and go and hide in a darkened room for the next 8 days - can't take much more of this !!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Martin pipe returns March 4, 2012 6:40 PM GMT
Nice one cheers Ron
Report Rod Tidwell March 4, 2012 6:43 PM GMT
available from 830 Martin...but dont know if that will be on the net or not
Report Martin pipe returns March 4, 2012 6:46 PM GMT
Well you'll get the arbers on here filling their boots so I'm going to stick a pile up at 2.12 as Hills will probs only lay a nifty at 5-4 so may as well get piling in before it goes back to 1.9 !
Report Pleasegivemeanailedontip March 4, 2012 6:47 PM GMT
Any reason for the drift with hills? Devil
Report Mister Westsound March 4, 2012 6:48 PM GMT
Presumably a publicity stunt - I give them 15 mins at that price max.
Report Martin pipe returns March 4, 2012 6:50 PM GMT
You can get a lot of money on in 15 minutes if you live in an area with plenty of Hills shops ! I reckon they will hold it til midday up to £100 per customer. But we will see.
Report Bright Spark March 4, 2012 8:02 PM GMT
Hmmm. just popped out to pick up the takeaway and now the price is back to 1.9.

Thanks for the info.

I've got half a chunk on the antepost and was gonna put the other half on on the day, but if the Hills offer is 5/4 NRNB then I'll prob try load up now with them. Anything above evens is value to me!
Report Fallen Angel March 4, 2012 9:57 PM GMT
Yeah seems to explain the drift. It looked like there was money being done at 1.85 earlier on account of the ground conditions. These ante post markets are volatile especially with the forum rumour mill to oil the wheels. Am going to be trying to get on Hurricane fly tomorrow asap
Report CVByrne March 5, 2012 12:41 AM GMT
You'll prob get near evens on the day, I still would prefer the insurance **** give with their money back if horse comes 2nd as it's next to impossible to see fly coming 3rd.
Report Fallen Angel March 5, 2012 7:41 AM GMT
Where is this well communicated Hurricane Fly offer with WH? I can't find it on the website. Thought it was going to be through all channels.
Report playthegameboy March 5, 2012 7:44 AM GMT
From 8.30am
Report Fallen Angel March 5, 2012 7:52 AM GMT
@playthegameboy,

Thanks very much. I am knee's deep in HF already but any excuse to add to that Grin
Report lucylucky March 5, 2012 8:46 AM GMT
£25 bet max, brilliant
Report mmg March 5, 2012 8:51 AM GMT
I got £80 on in the shop at 8.30
Report stevo1 March 5, 2012 8:52 AM GMT
Done some doubles as already on 9/4 Nr No Bet The Hurricane , with Darlan, Sizing Europe and Ocar Whisky. Expect at least one double to gain some reward.
Report el chine March 5, 2012 9:00 AM GMT
let me have a £100. laid it back,  free £30 , thanks William
Report lucylucky March 5, 2012 9:02 AM GMT
are there any doubles worth doing fly vs w/o fly market? looking at fly/zarkandar 6.87/1 1st/2nd
Report governor March 5, 2012 9:42 AM GMT
Got on as well seems like a fair offer nrnb as well

Managed to get 80 quid on no bother.

Probably could get more on but have enough bets on already
Report stevo1 March 5, 2012 9:58 AM GMT
See Tetlami thread 40s with Sid James for while, think they messed up big time imo wont be good enough but had to throw score at it at price.
Report Bright Spark March 5, 2012 1:04 PM GMT
thanks for the heads up on the offer! got £100 online and £400 in shops, so Im done till collection time!
Report Fallen Angel March 5, 2012 2:24 PM GMT
Offer been pulled now. Assume they have filled their boots with as much HF laying as they could handle. Managed to get £100 through my online account, went into a shop at 1.30pm and it had been taken down. Should harden up now until the next firm takes it on.
Report cats-eyes March 5, 2012 3:27 PM GMT
BIG Thank you done 4 shop's 100each no-prob and my mate put on 2x doubles for me, with sprinter lovely jubbley,happy with that.
Report cats-eyes March 5, 2012 3:27 PM GMT
BIG Thank you done 4 shop's 100each no-prob and my mate put on 2x doubles for me, with sprinter lovely jubbley,happy with that.
Report Paddy1983 March 5, 2012 5:50 PM GMT
paddy power went 5-4 in shops today for half hour max bet 500 per customer!
Report Fallen Angel March 5, 2012 5:55 PM GMT
Amazing offer. You can guarantee a nice return from that bet. Money for nothing!
Report SN02 March 5, 2012 6:02 PM GMT
I have a decent amount on H Fly but I must admit I am becoming slightly concerned about Binocular - might have an ew saver on it - any thoughts?
Report Paddy1983 March 5, 2012 6:26 PM GMT
not as amazing as 2-1 about sprinter sacre which they also offered!
Report thieveslikeus March 5, 2012 6:34 PM GMT
SN02, we've done binocular to death already, this thread might be your best bet http://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/28953523/b...
Report FOYLESWAR March 5, 2012 6:43 PM GMT
anything not quite right here ! seems a lot of firms want to get the fly and taking shedloads on him it seems  ,bookies not usually known for giving away  free money ,do they know something we dont, or is it just the bookmakers wanting to give some back to punters !
Report Paddy1983 March 5, 2012 6:46 PM GMT
totally agree foyleswar but coulding resist going in at 5-4! but with nrnb think its a no brainer because theres no way in hell willie will not let him take his chance if he's not 100% right!
Report Fallen Angel March 5, 2012 7:41 PM GMT
Bookies have always taken on good things at Cheltenham, it's up to the punter to figure out which one to back and which to avoid. Hopefully this is one they have got wrong.
Report patsyone March 5, 2012 7:45 PM GMT
perhaps the arbers out to play after taking WH 5/4
Report Glossy March 5, 2012 7:58 PM GMT
Deary me. 5/4, is an awful price about one of the biggest hype horses I've seen in my years following the horses. Has beaten nothing but handicappers (with the exception of Peddlers who was found to be off) and has only won on flat tracks. Has a large number of significant trends to overcome and has found nothing off the bridle whenever he's been asked - and he certainly will be asked a week tomorrow.

No wonder the bookies are taking turns to take him on. Who will be next?!
Report Paddy1983 March 5, 2012 8:03 PM GMT
who will get him off the bit? he finds nothing off it? have you been drinking or lost your mind?
Report el chine March 5, 2012 8:14 PM GMT
lol
Report BraveIncaisBest March 5, 2012 8:26 PM GMT
Glossy you're a mug plain and simple
Report Tory March 5, 2012 8:38 PM GMT
I'd love to know what 'significant stats' he has to overcome!
Report Paddy1983 March 5, 2012 8:40 PM GMT
ah the poor fella has lost his mind!
Report BraveIncaisBest March 5, 2012 8:49 PM GMT
Glossy
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Deary me. 5/4, is an awful price about one of the biggest hype horses I've seen in my years following the horses. Has beaten nothing but handicappers (with the exception of Peddlers who was found to be off) and has only won on flat tracks. Has a large number of significant trends to overcome and has found nothing off the bridle whenever he's been asked - and he certainly will be asked a week tomorrow.
No wonder the bookies are taking turns to take him on. Who will be next?!

Horses Hurricane Fly has beaten that have won Grade1 races
Solwhit x6, 1000 stars x2, Binocular x4, Unnacompanied x2, Oscars Well x2, Oscar Whiskey x1, Menorah x1, Peddlers x2, Dunguib x2, Kyber Kim x1 ... and probably more but thats enough to make the point

Won't even go into the Bridle argument, he finds plenty - idels in front.

Where did he win his champion hurdle last year? Which flat track?

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Glossy March 5, 2012 9:10 PM GMT
Sorry, the post related to Sprinter Sacre - was reading the thread about the 5/4 on offer and forgot I'd switched threads.

My most sincere apologies to all involved Happy
Report Paddy1983 March 5, 2012 9:14 PM GMT
5-4 gone ages ago especially now as peddlers doesnt run! had  nice bet at 2's today so can lay bet off and still have free bet at evens! cant lose! think he'll romp though!
Report judorick March 5, 2012 9:14 PM GMT
lol I knew that was what happened

Sprinter is facking nailed on now though

what trend has he got to overcome then?
Report Glossy March 5, 2012 9:15 PM GMT
Actually surprised no-one picked up on that from my arguments, usually a sharp bunch on here. Happy

Happens to the best of us after a long day at work. Happy
Report judorick March 5, 2012 9:19 PM GMT
serioiusly glossy what trends has sacre got to overcome?>
Report BraveIncaisBest March 5, 2012 9:20 PM GMT
OK fair enough then - i retract my mug comment in that case! Happy

I thought you were knocking a proven Grade 1 horse ...
Report Glossy March 5, 2012 9:21 PM GMT
I thought you'd realise what it was judo. Grin

I think we spoke briefly about it last night. The favourites trend is one but the more significant stat relates to the hurdles rating of the Arkle winning profile. He has a few in front of him in that respect.
Report judorick March 5, 2012 9:22 PM GMT
pfft hardly gonna stop him is it? and I totally ignore betting market trends so you can forget that
Report Paddy1983 March 5, 2012 9:24 PM GMT
hills offer went bout 9 hours ago! the ship has sailed!
Report Glossy March 5, 2012 9:25 PM GMT
I see Cue Card running a very aggressive race to try and catch SS at it coming up the hill. The increased pace helps Menorah and he jumps better than ever. They come up the hill with Cue Card just in front but then fades quickly. SS is level but off the bridle and finds very little. Menorah stays on in the last furlong and wins by a couple of lengths. Cool
Report Glossy March 5, 2012 9:26 PM GMT
Paddy, this convo was meant to be happening on the thread dedicated to that offer! I realise it's not longer available!
Report Paddy1983 March 5, 2012 9:29 PM GMT
haha menorah have you seen his jumping sure the pace cue card gona go if he misses 1 he wont get away with it! no chance
Report Glossy March 5, 2012 9:35 PM GMT
Yes I've seen his jumping thanks. There's a school of thought that feel the faster pace and bigger field may actually improve it though. Less time to think and ponder his fences - it happens. That coupled with the time spent with Yogi could definitely improve him. It's a horse that does well at Cheltenham, has genuine 2m speed comes up the hill and should be written off at your peril.
Report judorick March 5, 2012 9:37 PM GMT
no peril whatsoever, won't see which way the monster went
Report Glossy March 5, 2012 9:39 PM GMT
I guess we'll see in not too long now! Anyway, that's all I have to say on this HF thread.

Apologies to the OP for accidently derailing the thread!
Report Paddy1983 March 5, 2012 9:41 PM GMT
glossy bazza has said he@s better than moscow! goodnight on that note!
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