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motor roller
02 Mar 12 07:51
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Is he the forgotten horse of the race?? Hennessy winner high quality horse undoubtedly and if breathing op has worked could be a huge price!!   Thoughts.....
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Report beestie March 2, 2012 8:20 AM GMT
I've been backing him for this for a year now.  In to 26 yesterday when the KS news broke, but now out to a long looking 65, so perhaps a few probs at home for him also...which wouldn't be much of a surprise!
Report ACStafford March 2, 2012 8:34 AM GMT
Doesn't like Cheltenham and needs soft ground. Poor performances so far this year. If he was mine I'd skip Cheltenham and look at Aintree.
Report strontium March 2, 2012 10:01 AM GMT
Flat track horse, autumn horse, very hard to get right and nowhere near good enough based on performances since he came back from injury.
Report IanD83 March 2, 2012 12:53 PM GMT
All races this year has travelled well then finished poorly. At cheltenham in Jan he was really struggling to breathe if you watch it back, or at least it looked that way to my untrained eye. If the op has done the trick he has the class to be involved as an e/w bet. Can't see him winning though.
Report thieveslikeus March 2, 2012 12:55 PM GMT
At cheltenham in Jan he was really struggling to breathe if you watch it back

I just had this glorious image of a horse clutching desperately at a polo neck sweater.
Report IanD83 March 2, 2012 12:57 PM GMT
Ha!
I just mean the way his head was held in comparison to earlier in the rest...just looked like he was struggling to breathe.
Report booster March 2, 2012 3:44 PM GMT
He's good enough and he's got the class but his form on good ground in the spring wouldn't inspire me. If you go back to his Hennessy win, Burton Port couldn't live with him but I think he may be better put away for next year and entered for the Hennessy. Also fast enough to win a Champion Chase like One Man.
Report Mr Eboue March 2, 2012 3:46 PM GMT
Diamond Harry fast enough to win a champion chase?
Report booster March 2, 2012 3:47 PM GMT
Won a Hennessy like One Man and has always travelled brilliantly over any trip.
Report Howdi March 2, 2012 6:52 PM GMT
jesus booster Tongue Out
Report buddeliea March 2, 2012 6:59 PM GMT
he just aint good enough,has absolutely no form thay puts him anywhere near winning a gold cup.
Report beestie March 2, 2012 7:53 PM GMT
h'mm, must say I'm surprised at some of those comments...has won in March twice, has won at Cheltenham twice, beaten Burton Port in the Hennessy and at Haydock giving him a stone,was the only horse to be able to lay up with KS a tHaydock this season...here's hoping that he blew up because of the breathing problem Shocked
Report booster March 2, 2012 8:39 PM GMT
If Burton Port's good enough to win a Gold Cup, and he's third favourite, then Diamond Harry has to be. The problem is his form this season but that could be rectified by a breathing operation. The 2 races he won in March were that bumper which he won twice at Newbury I think.
Report buddeliea March 2, 2012 9:09 PM GMT
Burton Port is still short of whats required,but what he has shown this season is improvement after a long lay off.DH has shown no such thing this season and has not run well enough to be touted as a GC contender.
Just because DH beat BP ages ago does not mean he has just as much chance as BP in the GC.
Report beestie March 3, 2012 12:36 PM GMT
now thats another point Buddeliea, and unfortunately I tend to agree with you...this season has not gone as planned.
Report thieveslikeus March 3, 2012 12:51 PM GMT
Just another thought on Burton Port, and it relates very much to Diamond Harry in terms of the value of his form, as quite a small horse there is every chance that the course at Newbury isn't really suitable for BP as it suits big strong galloping types.  In that case he may well improve quite a bit just for returning to Cheltenham.
Report Glossy March 3, 2012 1:27 PM GMT
Surely Cheltenham suits galloping types more than any other? Newbury is quite a fair course that suits most types IMO; more so than Chelt anyway.
Report Far From Trouble March 3, 2012 1:38 PM GMT
Tailor made Ryanair horse imo
Report thieveslikeus March 3, 2012 2:15 PM GMT
No way Glossy, Cheltenham's undulations slow the pace down quite a bit which makes it harder for a big horse to keep it's rhythm.  Not so much so as the sharp turns of say the Mildmay course at Aintree but still doesn't compare to the giant oval tracks like Newbury and Doncaster.
Report Eeternaloptimist March 3, 2012 4:37 PM GMT
thieves

I think you overplay it somewhat. The Tue/Wed course is far more of a tight, turning, undulating track. The Gold Cup course suits galloping types. I do agree that Newbury is even more pronounced in that respect but I have to point out that this being the case will probably be more than offset in BP's case by the fact that as a small horse he isn't going to enjoy carrying 10lbs more in the gold cup.
Report Eeternaloptimist March 3, 2012 4:39 PM GMT
I'd certainly far rather take a chance on him bouncing than back Diamond Harry though.
Report buddeliea March 4, 2012 8:10 AM GMT
Diamond Harry imo is a horse that people latched on to in his novice hurdle days,where he was winning impressively and RUK in particular were raving about him.
Since then apart from the Hennessey win he has largely disappointed,but some of those latchers are still hanging on,and imo they need to let go,and certainly at Cheltenham which really dont suit him.
Report brandyontherocks March 4, 2012 8:23 PM GMT
didn't they report yesterday on the morning line that he will miss chelt
Report Martin pipe returns March 4, 2012 8:25 PM GMT
Thought I heard that too. An infection in a leg?
Report thieveslikeus March 4, 2012 8:35 PM GMT
Daily **** website, 29th Feb

Diamond Harry's chances of making the Gold Cup field look slim after owner Paul Duffy revealed that his injury-prone chaser has a leg infection.

Duffy said: ‘He is being treated with poultices. We haven’t given up on running but it is only fair to let everyone know.’
Report Ibrahima Sonko March 4, 2012 8:40 PM GMT
Sad

Should be aimed at the ryanair anyway.
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