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Jason Maguire states Arkle is still target for Peddlers
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Sauce, tar
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...and since when has the entry for a race ever been the domain of the jockey? I thought the trainer(mainly)/owner decided?
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Probably just repeating what the trainer has said i.e. Arkle = Plan A
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To elaborate on the original post. Reports coming from tonights haydock preview night JM says PC is well and he intends to make it a true test in the Arkle to see what SS's got up the hill.
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Why doesn't McCain make a statement? The drift on here in the Arkle is a worry for any backers and the bookies have been shortening him for the Jewson over the past couple of days. This sort of silence gives racing a bad name. Trainers need to be more open especially with such a high profile fixture coming up.
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As elaborated on, by the previous poster, this is the word coming from Haydock preview night. Will be interesting
To hear what comes from Bangor as Donald is on the panel there. I imagine Maguire the stable jockey will be pretty central to the horses running plans. |
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Last week he said PC was ready to face SS 'head on'. Now that doesn't appear necessarily to be the case. I wouldn't trust this f*ckin weasel as far as I could throw him.
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If you can't trust Ruby, then who can you trust? Not saying Ruby was lying about Kauto but it is not a jockey's place to say where a horse might run. Not Jason's fault, he has to answer questions.
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No great revelations at Bangor, mixed messages from McCain but general feeling seems to be that he hasn't been 100% but he is getting there. Main target still the Arkle. Reading between the lines the suggestion seems to be it's Arkle or nowhere, I wouldn't be backing him for the Jewson, well not unless you consider McCain's comments to be as reliable as PN's
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So he's not 100%, hasn't run since Kempton, hasn't done a lot of schooling - if any - and he's ready to take on the monster? He's having a f*ckin laugh.
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feel the same way about mccain. i've gone right off him this season with all his misdirection and vagueness. been defensive and smug in a couple of interviews i've heard when asked quite straight forward questions.
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Liar liar!! For past month or so then?
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I I was the owner of PC I'd be pretty miffed, two poxy prizes at Bangor (no offence) is all you've got to show for the season. Might as well have stayed over hurdles and picked up some place prize money in the CH with a possible bonus if HF didn't turn up. Going to be well out of pocket after training fees I would have thought. Lets hope he is Ok and takes on SS in the Arkle...
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Cant give him away - double figures now
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Something is amiss - The story about the "vibes aren't good about Peddlers" are perhaps true after all.
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the layers obviously not listening to jason then
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if everyone connected to peddlers is still saying arkle is plan a, and jeswon plan b. why do the markets on here suggest the opposite? very strange. not a stable i associate with misdirection.
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Fickin terrible pr from trainer, why not mention on his column on here ffs!!!!!!!Keep everyone guessing apart from stable laying the crap out of it?
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they don't know whether the arkle trip is the best for him...well you'd have thought that just getting beat by hurricane fly clear of the rest would be a big fooking clue.....first real problem that mccain has had in his fledgling trainer career and he's made a complete balls up of it.
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What is remarkable is that this indecision is occurring now. They've had since November to make up their minds and prepare accordingly.
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you'd have more respect for them if they just came out and said that SS scares the sh1t out of them.....this is what the delay is all about , they are hanging on until the last minute in case something happens to him!!
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before you get too bitter with donald worth remembering a few things.things have not got well with peddlers this term,as gutted as donald would be to miss the arkle he wants to do whats best for the horse not whats best for everybody's ante post betting slips..would pitching the horse into the white hot arkle be the right thing for the horse after kempton ,hes not had enough jumping experience after failing to get a run in him due to the problems post kemp with his back muscles,he faces possibly the gratest 2m chaser of all time in the arkle.he is a future gold cup horse who's natural distance has always been further than 2miles...if you owned the horse bearing in mind the problems hes had why wouldnt you go for a g2 jewson over an intermediate trip as a stepping stone to the gold cup perhaps next yr,the ultimate plan a down the line.donald has been hinting strongly this is the dilemma he faces and many have taken those hints...hence the drift and jewson money .he is in no rush to decide tho and prob wishes to see how he schools b4 making a final decision,a football manager doesnt announce his fa cup final team 10 days b4...why should he not be able to take in all relevent facts b4 he decides.when someone says somethg is plan a it is becos that is what he favours but it assumes everythg is a1 ok with the horse,it clearly hasnt been tho so wouldnt be giving him too harder time myself if he changes his mind.in the meantime make your own conclusions and adjust your portfolio accordingly,its clear from the market that other people have read donald's inference that he is leaning away from the arkle.
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Well said that man couldn't agree more Rooster.
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Personally think wont be going. hope not the case though,was looking a good Arkle without Peddlers will take a lot of class from race, leaving it to Sacre and Al Ferof.
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What did Jason say on Talksport this morning, he was interviewed at 855, i missed it...
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Agree with Stevo1 - I don't think this is a red hot Arkle and it's a race a fully fit PC would have every chance of winning imo but there are only 2 opinions that count here and that's the owner and the trainer. SS MIGHT be a great 2 miler in the making but he is by no means a shoe in to win the Arkle he has to finish better up the Hill than he did in the Supreme last year and any **** in his stamina will be tested to the full in this race. The race will lose a huge amount of it's appeal without PC. Yes I have backed him but I have also backed AF and CC so I am not purely talking through my pocket. I reckon SS can and quite possibly will be beaten in this and I for one cannot understand why DMcC doen't think so. PR wise this is a poor affair. A short explanation of the current position in non cryptic form would be very welcome.
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LOL at betfair blocking the word CH1NK despite it being used in it's correct context !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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No mention of PC at all in the interview Shropshire Lad. Uninformed interviewers
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Got to disagree with rooster to some extent.
If the horse is not fit enough or A1 ok to run in the Arkle, then it is an insult to the owners/trainers of the horses that run in the Jewson that he is ok to run in that race. If the decision is the Jewson because that is the race that suits him better, then that's fair enough but say so - don't say that Arkle is still Plan A |
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This is from Chris Cook on Twitter-McCain wasn't even definite when asked if Peddlers Cross will run at the Festival. "I would think he will" but asked people to bear with him
Peddlers Cross reported by McCain to have been "very, very sore" after pulling muscles on last run Doesn't sound promising at all  i reckon they'll pull the plug with him for the season,which might not be a bad idea if he's not 100%. He'll come back a better horse next season and hopefully stepped up to 3 miles |
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Now on the RP site DMcC saying he thinks he will run but not sure in which race and if we bear with him a few days all will be revealed. Stop talking in riddles man FFS. He say's it all depends on a schooling session but what has the injury setback got to do with his intended festival target. If PC is fit to run why would the injury have any bearing at all on what race he runs in. The horse is either fit to run or it's not. All season he's said Arkle so why would an injury setback make you consider a different race. I seriosly now think connections are ducking the clash and using the injury as an excuse which is a poor poor show.
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what a strange week its been , monday peddlers was getting nicely backed cut by most firms , and dm saying everything on target for the arkle , left him in the champion and jewson , but arkle the target then starts drifting like a barge , nothing from dm ,in todays post says "i dont know what happened i know nothing about betting " the horse is in grand shape hes fine , the arkle is the plan unless something happens to make us think differentley " surely if hes 100 per cent he must go for the arkle as he would have all the right ticks in all the right boxes, why would you go for a jewson with a 100 per cent peddlers ? very worrying from my mind , as ive made a 1oo per cent peddlers my nap of the day on tuesday , please mr donald mccain inlighten us punters
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Would dm not think 2 miles around Cheltenham would be the same as a 2 1/2 mile race.. Come on dm run the pc in the ankle I'm sure you will beat as and don't be scared give everyone the race we all want to see ..... If your reading this stick by what you have said all along plan a is the way forward ..
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Trainer finally seeing sense
Impossible to beat Fav in Arkle & Sir des Champs may be for RSA. Field clear for Jewson |
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the point is donald my old boy, at various times during this horses career we've heard the line from you" we don't need to prove anything to anyone about the horse, we know what we've got", well i actually think that as things have transpired this season the fact is that you do have something to prove, i for one just wish that you actually showed the faith in the horse that you have kept telling us all about.
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Perhaps Donald will enlighten us at the Q&A tonight.
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It seems clear enough, the horse needs further than 2 miles over fences. He has shown he isnt a sharp jumper so it is better to go up in trip where his slower jumping will be less of a negative in the context of his preparation for a future Gold Cup horse. He isnt a Queen Mother horse of the future so they dont need a stuffing in the Arkle to save all your bets when they know he needs prepping over further. If he isnt going well at home he will likely miss both.
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So why doesn't DMcC just come out and say that then eric - you might well be right (did I really just type that !) but just man up Donald and say it instead of all this mumbo jumbo we have had up to now. If he runs it in the Jewson we have all been had.
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How can anyone have been had? His last run was a while ago when it was clear he didnt jump quickly or well and he was said to have been injured. He was also fav that day and hammered fair and square by his main Arkle opponent who Geraghty privately thinks could be better than Moscow Flyer.
With this information anyone backing PC for the Arkle has done so in the face of an awful lot of negatives available to them which would suggest the Arkle is not the best race for him if they are looking to the Gold Cup as the future. The Jewson is becoming a race for horses with Peddlars Cross profile, not quick enough jumpers for 2m Champion Chasers but probable Gold Cup horses of the future furthering their education without the knowledge they are an out and out stayer already for an RSA. Anyone backing him prior to his last run have to accept he could be switched depending on his trial runs. End of imo. |