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R.O.Gibraltar
01 Mar 12 18:43
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Whats happened to him why the drift?
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Report flyingbolt March 1, 2012 6:46 PM GMT
Looks like McCain is running scared and going for the Jewson.
Report wakey55 March 1, 2012 7:03 PM GMT
3 reasons why Peddlers should run in the Arkle

1) Jewson is a grade2, Arkle grade1 for a multiple grade1 winner, shouldnt be considering grade2 as target for the season

2) He was the second best hurdlers over 2m last year, so nothing should outpace it too badly.

3) He deserves to pit himself against the best, the horse that has beat him, when he is right and has his optimum race conditions (track, pace of race etc).
Report Glossy March 1, 2012 7:06 PM GMT
I think the market has overreacted to McCain's comments. He just sounded to be keeping his options open by giving a vaguish interview IMO. We all know what the reaction on here would be if if said 100% Arkle and then something cropped up which forced him to change his mind.

I can only see Peddlers going for the Arkle, particularly after McCain's bullish attitude whenever asked about the quality of Sprinter Sacre.
Report wakey55 March 1, 2012 7:30 PM GMT
i dont think the drift is a reaction to RUK interview Glossy otherwise it would have happened yesterday, i think there has been something else, poor schooling, a comment from someone in the know.

tonights Bangor preview night, will be very very interesting. as DMc is on it.
Report Mister Westsound March 1, 2012 8:00 PM GMT
Got the impression he's not been jumping well when schooled at home.  A previously mentioned gallop now seems to have turned into a shooling session instead and if he jumps well then it will be the Arkle. Any indication that he's not jumping as well as was hoped will see him heading for the Jewson seemed to be the message.  If he's not jumping well enough to be considered an Arkle horse then he won 't win the Jewson either imo.  Yes they might go a little slower in the Jewson (but it will be helter skelter enough) but he'll have more fences to jump.  Unless DMcC comes out and says he sailed through his final schooling I can't see him winning either race now which is a pity as I have backed him for the Arkle.
Report eric_morris March 1, 2012 8:12 PM GMT
Nonsense just because a horse may not win the Arkle doesnt mean it cant win the Jewson. I said before this horse jumped a twig of fence that he was too straight backed and not agile enough for fences and it may be McCain is starting to realise this.
Report Mister Westsound March 1, 2012 8:20 PM GMT
If his jumping isn't up to him running in the Arkle in the trainers opinion then I honestly can't see how he thinks it will hold up well enough to win the Jewson. There will be plenty pace on early in a bigger field in the Jewson.  We don't know for sure that it's his jumping ability that's in question here either - it may be a physical probelm.
Report tonycoppen. March 1, 2012 8:31 PM GMT
So are we saying that in todays post when McCain said " he is in terrific form and Plan A is the Arkle " - it was a lie ?
Report thieveslikeus March 1, 2012 8:33 PM GMT
Tony, he made the startling revelation that a horse with multiple entries has a plan B!  Mass hysteria has duly followed.
Report eric_morris March 1, 2012 8:35 PM GMT
yes the physical problem is he cant jump well, dress it up as a muscle problem (we all have them) if you want. Happy
Report stevo1 March 1, 2012 9:02 PM GMT
Eric take it you havent backed Peddlers, i did at 8/1 before debut over fences and layed some off when it dropped to silly price on here,think it is case of they think it cant beat Fav.
But trainer stated not too long ago never be afraid of one horse, he may have changed his mind whicj is a shame for the race itself. Which was looking a cracker but now has only 2 likely winners imo.
Report manyana March 1, 2012 9:13 PM GMT
having backed it to win a good sum in last years CH, personally cant see why he doesnt go and have another go. HF great horse but PC clear second and you should never worry about one.
Report magic carpet March 1, 2012 9:15 PM GMT
Maybe Mccain should have consulted Eric Morris before embarking on a novice chasing campaign! How obnoxious is this man? He comes on various threads spouting this and that about this trainer should do this or that horse is being campaigned wrongly here or there.I'm all for everybody having their say thats what an open debate is all about but this man has zero respect for anybody who dares to question his warped logic
Report eric_morris March 1, 2012 9:35 PM GMT
haha you said virtually exactly the same about me telling Hobbs the Arkle should be the target while cr@pping yourself over your large Finians Rainbow bet. Added extra pleasure it beating a horse backed by an obnoxious pocket talking tw@t like you. Fantastic.
Report GAZO March 1, 2012 9:36 PM GMT
maybe its the owner who doesnt fancy the arkle
Report eric_morris March 1, 2012 9:36 PM GMT
i'll bring it to the top so everyone can read how obnoxious you were when getting it so badly wrong.
Report WWP March 1, 2012 9:47 PM GMT
Peddlers has not been right since Aintree- his poor run there seems to have been forgotten. 2 soft races at Bangor proved nothing as he was different class to the opposition. He was then beaten 16 lenghts by Sprinter who wasn't exactly given a hard race to do so. D McC then said he said there were reasons for the poor run at Kempton. The way he is talking now about stepping up his training and doing the right thing for the horse it is clear he isn't happy with him and I doubt if he will appear in any race at the festival. Pity I know but I don't think his problems relate to Kempton-it goes back to Aintree.
Report magic carpet March 1, 2012 9:50 PM GMT
I got it wrong with Captain Chris so what? The point is we are all wrong from time to time Eric the difference is i don't try to tell the connections of various horses they can't do their job correctly based on my financial position on a particular race.If i remember correctly i was back on that thread last year after the race saying that i had got it wrong and congractulating you for being right! The thing is Eric i can get it wrong sometimes but i can also admit this which is something in my experience of you,something you never can.I'm not getting into a slanging match with you,what you think of me has no relevance to my life
Report ilikewavingatbuses March 1, 2012 10:11 PM GMT
eric_morris
01 Mar 12 21:35
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haha you said virtually exactly the same about me telling Hobbs the Arkle should be the target while cr@pping yourself over your large Finians Rainbow bet. Added extra pleasure it beating a horse backed by an obnoxious pocket talking tw@t like you. Fantastic.



not capt chris AGAINLaugh

must have been his last winner, lord all mighty. anytime i see his name hes talking about capt chrisLaugh
Report ilikewavingatbuses March 1, 2012 10:13 PM GMT
Desmond Orchard
30 Mar 11 18:02
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Eric Morris on Horse Racing Ante-post/Cheltenham etc Fora, is the current incarnation of perhaps the most preposterous poster anywhere. He too is given to heroic last minute trades, directly at odds with previously strongly argued positions in order to get out in profit (often 6 figures!), despite never posting an actual bet before an event. He is utterly incapable of getting anything wrong and has, to my knowledge, never had a losing bet. Anyone who disagrees with him is a 'stalker', to whom he will attribute imaginary statements, obviously without any evidence to back them up, which he then attempts to discredit. He labours under the misapprehension that he has then 'proved you wrong' - a peculiar obsession of his that gives an indication of his overall insecurity. On the rare ocassions that he does tip up a winner (without actually admitting to having placed any actual money on the beast), he then crows from the rooftops that he is some kind of guru and all should worship at his alter, clearly oblivious to the fact that even a blind dog will pi55 up the odd lampost.
He is great fun though and we would miss him over there if his Mum ever banned him for any length of time. That said, there is no shortage of contenders for Forum Idiot waiting in the wings



have a good laugh at that, i do!Laugh
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