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Having gone through the whole field. My shortlist is:

White Star Line (16/1)
Mic's Delight (20/1)
Cucumber Run (20/1)
Shot From The Hip (20/1)
Trenchant (25/1)

Minella Class could also be added to list if he becomes legible, but I doubt he will be given a rating 140 or below.

With Cucumber Run, Trenchant and Shot From The Hip all declared this weekend, I won't be making any firm decisions until Sunday night. However, at the moment my preference would be for Mic's Delight although he has multiple handicap entries and there is a slight doubt that all his form is right handed.

Hunt Ball (IRE)    Keiran Burke    12st 0lb   
Saint Are (FR)    Tim Vaughan    11st 12lb   
Donnas Palm (IRE)    Noel Meade, Ireland    11st 12lb   
The Panama Kid (IRE)    Malcolm Jefferson    11st 12lb   
Raptor (FR)    W. P. Mullins, Ireland    11st 12lb   
Going Wrong    Ferdy Murphy    11st 11lb   
Shot From The Hip (GER)    E. J. O'Grady, Ireland    11st 10lb   
Battle Group    David Pipe    11st 10lb   
Bless The Wings (IRE)    Alan King    11st 10lb   
Alasi    Paul Webber    11st 10lb   
Falcon Island    Colin Tizzard    11st 10lb   
Quincy des Pictons (FR)    Alan Jones    11st 9lb   
Owen Glendower (IRE)    Nicky Henderson    11st 9lb   
Lancetto (FR)    Evan Williams    11st 9lb   
Nearest The Pin (IRE)    A. J. Martin, Ireland    11st 8lb   
Slieveardagh (IRE)    E. J. O'Grady, Ireland    11st 8lb   
Far Away So Close (IRE)    Paul Nolan, Ireland    11st 7lb   
Triolo d'Alene (FR)    Nicky Henderson    11st 7lb   
White Star Line (IRE)    D. T. Hughes, Ireland    11st 7lb   
Mad Moose (IRE)    Nigel Twiston-Davies    11st 7lb   
----------------------20----------------------------------
Mic's Delight (IRE)    Victor Dartnall    11st 7lb   
Charminster (IRE)    Donald McCain    11st 7lb   
Roalco de Farges (FR)    Philip Hobbs    11st 6lb   
Gates of Rome (IRE)    Colm A. Murphy, Ireland    11st 6lb   
Ackertac (IRE)    Nigel Twiston-Davies    11st 6lb   
Cucumber Run (IRE)    Nicky Henderson    11st 4lb   
Vino Griego (FR)    Gary Moore    11st 4lb   
That'll Do    Paul Nicholls    11st 4lb   
Criqtonic (FR)    Paul Nicholls    11st 4lb   
Golden Chieftain (IRE)    Colin Tizzard    11st 4lb   
Sir du Bearn (FR)    Paul Nicholls    11st 4lb   
Brackloon High (IRE)    Noel Chance    11st 4lb   
Webberys Dream    Jeremy Scott    11st 4lb   
Harpsy Cord (IRE)    J. T. R. Dreaper, Ireland    11st 4lb   
Educated Evans (IRE)    Nigel Twiston-Davies    11st 4lb   
Skint        11st 3lb   
Westmeath    Paul Nolan, Ireland    11st 3lb   
Schindler's Gold (IRE)    Dr Richard Newland    11st 2lb   
Dantes King (IRE)    Gordon Elliott, Ireland    11st 1lb   
Carrickboy (IRE)    Venetia Williams    11st 0lb   
----------------------40----------------------------------
The Cockney Mackem (IRE)    Nigel Twiston-Davies    11st 0lb   
El Lobo (FR)    David Pipe    10st 13lb   
Bottman (IRE)    Tim Vaughan    10st 13lb   
Made In Time (IRE)    Rebecca Curtis    10st 13lb   
Aikman (IRE)    James Ewart    10st 13lb   
Life of A Luso (IRE)    Paul Henderson    10st 11lb   
Last Time d'Albain (FR)    L. P. Cusack, Ireland    10st 11lb   
Time Out (IRE)    James Ewart    10st 11lb   
Megastar    Gary Moore    10st 11lb   
Tiger O'Toole (IRE)    Evan Williams    10st 11lb   
Niceonefrankie    Venetia Williams    10st 10lb   
Pentiffic (NZ)    Venetia Williams    10st 10lb   
Temple Lord (FR)    Jonjo O'Neill    10st 10lb   
U B Carefull    Sirrell Griffiths    10st 9lb   
Tiptoeaway (IRE)    Tim Easterby    10st 8lb   
Degas Art (IRE)    Lucinda Russell    10st 8lb   
Barel of Laughs (IRE)    J. Culloty, Ireland    10st 6lb   
Golan Guy (IRE)    Alison Batchelor    10st 6lb   
Arctic Ben (IRE)    Henry Daly    10st 4lb   
Grey Soldier (IRE)    Gordon Elliott, Ireland    10st 3lb   
Dont Tell Sailor (IRE)    Jennie Candlish    10st 2lb   
Milgen Bay    Oliver Sherwood    10st 1lb   
Unforgettable (IRE)    Robin Dickin    10st 0lb   
Ballyoliver    Venetia Williams    9st 13lb   
Imperial Shabra (IRE)    Patrick O. Brady, Ireland    9st 12lb   
Forty Five (IRE)    Jonjo O'Neill    9st 9lb   
City Theatre (IRE)    Jonjo O'Neill    9st 6lb

Not sure if prices will be around for long, but have done 1.5pt E/W Nearest The Pin 20/1 and 1pt E/W Mic's Delight 20/1, both NRNB with VC. Will be putting up a preview tonight when home from work

Charminster cracking e/w chance if jumping better than lto.

(© Extreme Conviction)

Having looked in detail at all of the 99 runners to take part in the past 5 renewals there seems to be some strong trends emerging as do what makes a Centenary winner. However, looking at the top of the market it seems the market has not caught on up on many of these yet.

1. Class

I'm a big supporter of class being an important factor when deciding the chance of a horse in a race. In the past 5 years nearly 25% of the field had never run in a Class A under National Hunt Rules before this race. The finishing position they recorded is as follows.

2011: 5, 9, PU
2010: 6, 7, 9, PU, PU, PU
2009: 14, UR, F, PU
2008: 3, 8, 10, 14, PU, PU, F, UR, PU
2007: 8, PU

13 of them did not even finish, and of the 11 that finished ONLY ONE PLACED.

From a 25% representation they have only formed 5% of the placed horses and produced no winners.

If a trainer did not feel comfortable running them in a Class A before now (most had been in training 2/3 seasons) then why should they be capable of taking an especially fierce one first time out? Included in these 24 runners were the favourites for the last two years; Definity and Rivaliste.

2. How is this race different to other races the horses have been competing in so far?

1. Large Field
2. Strong Pace
3. Cheltenham

The large field and usual strong pace associated with a festival race is far flung from the small field novice events that horses have been taking part in over the winter. I would always want a horse who has proven he can handle such an event (be it over hurdles) as well as having some experience at the track. Having gone through all 99 runners these are the parameters I have come up with.

1. Large Field - Won in a 12+ field and placed in a 16+ field
2. Strong Pace - Achieved a Topspeed of 115+
3. Cheltenham - Run at the course before

Looking through the 5 renewals it seems a horse can get away with missing out one of the factors but that's it.

The finishing positions of those that failed all 3 : 9, 11, PU, PU, PU, PU, PU

And those that failed two: 3, 5, 7, 7, 8, 8, 9, 9, 11, 12, 13, PU, PU, PU, PU, PU, UR, UR

25 runners of which 13 finished and ONLY ONE PLACED. These included fancied horses such as The Hollinwell, New Little Bric and Dear Villez.

3. Handicapping

Being a Novice Handicap Chase at the biggest meeting of all it is a prime target for horses to be plotted at. So what's the easiest way to conceal your true hand?

Simple: Don't run in Handicap Chases before this race, be it in open company or Novice Events. It is far easier for a handicapper to gauge the ability of a horse in a handicap than in a small field novice event. However, looking at the market this year it seems the public have not caught on to this fact, with four of the top five in the betting (at the time of writing) having come through handicaps.

The record of horses who have run handicaps before are:

2011: 4, 7, 9, 12, PU, PU, PU, PU, PU
2010: 5, 7, UR
2009: 9, 14, UR, PU
2008: 3, 4, 9, 10, 11, 14, PU, PU, PU, F
2007: 6, 8, 9, 13, F, PU

32 runners (almost a third of the field), yet they have produce NO WINNERS AND ONLY THREE PLACES.

Favourite at the moment is Triolo D'alene of Nicky Henderson who has run in a handicap before. Nicky Henderson in recent years has run Shakalakaboomboom, Oscric and Boomshakalaka who had competed in at least one handicap before and they finished - 9, PU, PU. Likewise, Alan King is represented by Bless The Wings who has had three runs in handicap chases already. 4 years ago King sent a similar sort The Hairy Lemon (11/1) to the race who was far too exposed after 4 handicap chase starts and finished 8th.

Even though you may think one run in a handicap won't do any harm it is still far easier the handicapper to get a handle on a horses ability. The figures of those who had only competed in one handicap is:

12, PU, PU, PU, 14, UR, PU, 3, 4, PU, 6, 13, PU

Also it makes sense that the fewer times the handicapper has seen a horse run the harder it will be for him to measure its full ability.

Horses with 3/4 runs over fences have produced 4 winners and 11 places. Compared to those with 5+ only producing 1 winners and 4 places. Those with five plus starts have made up only a third of the field but they have done worse than their proportion suggests they should do. The winner was L'antartique five years ago.

For that reason, I am happy to discount anything who has had more than four runs over fences.

There is also a strong preference for those horses who, on the figures, are on the upgrade. By this is mean horses who either won last time out or produced their best RPR over fences.

60% of the runners met this producing - 4 winners, 10 places
40% of the runners did not producing - 1 winner, 5 places

In conclusion, the factors I am looking at are:

1. Class

a) Run in a Class A under National Hunt Rules before

2. Race Type - Meet at least two of the following Criteria

a) 115+ TS
b) Run at Cheltenham
c) Won in 12+ field and placed in 16+ field

3. Handicapping

a) Never run in a handicap chase
b) Four or less runs over fences
c) Either won last time out or recorded best ever RPR over fences

Applying these to the last five renewals you would have been left with:


2011: Divers (1st), Quantitativeeasing (2nd), Tullamore Dew (3rd)

2010: Copper Bleu (1st), Othermix (2nd), The Midnight Club (3rd), China Rock (4th), Working Title (12th)

2009: Chapoturgeon (1st), Isn't That Lucky (2nd), Astrador (8th), Kia Kaha (10th), Auroras Encore (11th), Naiad Du Misselot (PU)

2008: Finger onthe Pulse (1st), Barbers Shop (2nd), Gods Token (5th), Ambobo (6th), Gold Medalist (13th)

2007: Wee Robbie (3rd), Dictum (10th), King Revo (PU), Chief Yeomen (F)


23 runners producing 4 winners and 8 other places.

The only horses to reach the criteria this season are:

Mic's Delight
Shot From The Hip
White Star Line

My first selection for the race is Victor Darntall's Mic's Delight who is currently available at 20/1 NRNB. A useful bumper performer, he won a Kempton bumper at a big price before just failing to give tons of weight under a penalty to the useful mare L'accordioniste.

In his first two starts over hurdles he finished behind useful sorts Kilcrea Kim and Golden Chieftan and he entered handicaps off a very lenient mark of 112. He won at his first try by 7l before dropping back to novice company and beating a good field including Barbatos, Bless The Wings, Safron De Cotte and Time For Spring. His best performance of the season came when only failed by a nose to win the EBF Final with horses such as Dynaste and Invictus in behind. He finished off the season with a disappointing second at Perth.

Sent over fences this year he's looked equally as good if not better and after coming second to the potentially useful Penny Max he has won twice cosily at Market Rasen. Both times he has been ridden very confidently and Dennis O'Regan has not had to get the bottom of him at all using only hands and heels. The field last time was good with Maringo Bay and State Benefit in behind. Off 135 he looks potentially very well handicapped and is proven in big fields, so the hustle and bustle if anything (judging by his hurdle form) should improve him. What also encourages me greatly is how much he found off the Bridle in the EBF final last season. After front running he slipped 5 lengths back and only between the final two did O'Regan go for him at which point he really began to motor. So far he hasn't been asked for anywhere near that much effort over fences, so I believe he could be potentially very well handicapped.

The one slight worry is all his form is right handed, however, having spoken to a connection of the horse they don't see why he shouldn't be equally as effective going left handed. Another point in his favour, is that if he takes his chance he is likely to have the fantastic Dennis O'Regan aboard. Being a big field with inexperienced horses you want as much help as you can from behind the saddle (shown by the previous winning jockeys and the shocking record claimers have in the race) and O'Regan certainly ticks that box. He has multiple entries (two 3 mile handicap chases) so it is worth getting involved but only on a NRNB basis.

With Shot from the Hip likely to miss Cheltenham according to his trainer, we are left with White Star Line. However, his price isn't up to much and although I may play him on the day if he takes his chance, he doesn't appeal ante post. One that does though is Nearest The Pin who finished ahead of both White Line Star and Shot From The Hip over Christmas, and is better off with them at the weights.

A massive talking horse (still entered in the Arkle) the key to him seems to be decent ground, which he has only had a few times in his career. After a few runs to get qualified for a handicap over hurdles he bolted up when he first met with decent ground.

Over fences, his first two runs were on Heavy ground which hated and on the second of those he was described by Racing Post as being given a "noticeably quiet ride". Interestingly that day he was very close in the market to Flemenstar, so he is obviously very well thought of. His best run of the season is when he chased home the very useful Hidden Cyclone with White Star Line and Shot From The Hip in behind.

On the back of that he was sent off 7/4f favourite for a Grade 2 last time on soft ground. However, that day he finished lame so I think it's fair to put a line through it. Once again, the price he was sent off, shows the regard he is held in. The main reason he fails the stats is his poor run last time but like I say I thnk it's fair to forgive him that as he finished lame behind. He's been given a mark of 136 which seems more than fair and he should be capable of being very competitive off it.

He is ridden by Paul Carberry or Ruby Walsh usually, so also he is likely to have one of the best jockeys on him if he is allowed to take his part. With his connections (Tony Martin trained) I can see him being a massive gamble and going off a single figure price on the day.

Although he has not yet to prove himself over the trip, his sibling Hold The Pin improved it. Nearest The Pin has tried it once, however, he was being qualified for a handicap then and the ground was soft. With another year on his back and better ground he has every chance of seeing it out and going close. Like Mic's Delight I have no idea if he'll run (other entries in Arkle/County Hurdle) but if he does I can't see him being anywhere near 20/1, so the NRNB available looks huge.

1pt E/W Mic's Delight 20/1 NRNB
1.5pt E/W Nearest The Pin 20/1 NRNB

Triolo DAlene (7) , Hunt Ball (10) , Bless The Wings (12) , Ackertac (14) , Going Wrong (16) , White Star Line (16) , Alasi (20) , Colbert Station (20) , Criqtonic (20) , Cucumber Run (20) , Gates Of Rome (20) , Mics Delight (20) , Minella Class (20) , Owen Glendower (20) , Raptor (20) , Sir Du Bearn (20) , Slieveardagh (20) , Donnas Palm (22) , Harpsy Cord (22) , Arctic Ben (25) , Nearest The Pin (25/1 StanJ) - Others  25 or more.

Extremely good write up above, l too have Mic's Delight and Shot From The Hip on my shortlist but the one l am most keen on at the moment is Far Away So Close, does anyone know if this is his intended target? From the trends that have been stated above the only one l can see that he falls down on is the improving RPR as it is 3lb below the best one he has acheived over fences so far. However, his best RPR did come over a similar trip to this race and l am sure that he is better suited by better ground which he will encounter at the festival.

ALready on Nearest The Pin, big value

Interesting stats, although my selection for the race (small bet only) fails a number of the above tests. Nonetheless, I was very encouraged by his most recent run against a handicap 'snip' over an inadequate trip.

0.5pt win Educated Evans @ 25/1

Good luck all.

any news if shot from the hip goes for this?

Spent two days trying to get my head around this race, and in the end went to w/hills and had 100ew 12/1 Bless The Wings.

Fantastic write up by CMIYC, but what relevance will the stats have as this is only really the second running of this race?

That is a brilliant write up, Going to save me a load of work.

Bigben there has been more than 2 runnings of this race, think it just changed its day

Yes but its a 0-140 now & trainers only used to have one 2 1/2m chase to run in.

Comment about the CENTENARY NOVICE HANDICAP CHASE from a preview night.........

Mike Cattermole: Bless the wings- Novice h/cap or Byrne group

cmiyc

great write up and a fascinating read, many thanks for that effort.

DUFFY,

fyi, 44 horses confirmed of the 70 allowed entries (MAX 20 runners though !)

Hunt Ball (IRE) 7    12 0
Saint Are (FR) 6    11 12
The Panama Kid (IRE) 8    11 12
Raptor (FR) 7    11 12
Going Wrong (GB) 9    11 11
Battle Group (GB) 7    11 10
Bless The Wings (IRE) 7    11 10
Falcon Island (GB) 7    11 10
Quincy des Pictons (FR) 8    11 9
Owen Glendower (IRE) 7    11 9
Lancetto (FR) 7    11 9
Nearest The Pin (IRE) 7    11 8
Triolo d'Alene (FR) 5    11 7
White Star Line (IRE) 8    11 7
Mad Moose (IRE) 8    11 7
Mic's Delight (IRE) 8    11 7
Charminster (IRE) 6    11 7
Ackertac (IRE) 7    11 6
Cucumber Run (IRE) 7    11 4
Vino Griego (FR) 7    11 4
That'll Do (GB) 7    11 4
Golden Chieftain (IRE) 7    11 4
Sir du Bearn (FR) 6    11 4
Harpsy Cord (IRE) 6    11 4
Educated Evans (IRE) 7    11 4
Carrickboy (IRE) 8    11 0
The Cockney Mackem (IRE) 6    11 0
El Lobo (FR) 5    10 13
Bottman (IRE) 7    10 13
Life of A Luso (IRE) 8    10 11
Tiger O'Toole (IRE) 7    10 11
Niceonefrankie (GB) 6    10 10
Pentiffic (NZ) 9    10 10
Temple Lord (FR) 6    10 10
U B Carefull (GB) 9    10 9
Degas Art (IRE) 9    10 8
Barel of Laughs (IRE) 6    10 6
Arctic Ben (IRE) 8    10 4
Grey Soldier (IRE) 7    10 3
Milgen Bay (GB) 6    10 1
Ballyoliver (GB) 8    9 13
Imperial Shabra (IRE) 8    9 12
Forty Five (IRE) 10    9 9
City Theatre (IRE) 8    9 6

Now sort out the "MAX 20 runners" !

4 confirmed jocks so far

The Panama Kid (IRE) 8.g Malcolm Jefferson 11st 12lb... Harry Haynes (3)
Mic's Delight (IRE) 8.g Victor Dartnall 11st 7lb....... Denis O'Regan
Charminster (IRE) 6.g Donald McCain 11st 7lb........... Jason Maguire
Carrickboy (IRE) 8.g Venetia Williams 11st 0lb......... Aidan Coleman

where's Alasi FFS

Shot from the hip gone?..grand annual now?

Jewson Nov Chase ??? OR in the Mares ???

could someone please tell me when bet f ment nrnb on this ? i backed lie forrit on 29th

went *

betfair aren't nrnb

apologies baldy

5th march so done me money

Harpsy Cord could sneak in there..sniff.

Hunt Ball (IRE) 7    12 0
Saint Are (FR) 6    11 12
The Panama Kid (IRE) 8    11 12
Raptor (FR) 7    11 12
Going Wrong (GB) 9    11 11
Battle Group (GB) 7    11 10
Bless The Wings (IRE) 7    11 10
Falcon Island (GB) 7    11 10
Quincy des Pictons (FR) 8    11 9
Owen Glendower (IRE) 7    11 9
Lancetto (FR) 7    11 9
Nearest The Pin (IRE) 7    11 8
Triolo d'Alene (FR) 5    11 7
White Star Line (IRE) 8    11 7
Mad Moose (IRE) 8    11 7
Mic's Delight (IRE) 8    11 7
Charminster (IRE) 6    11 7
Ackertac (IRE) 7    11 6
Cucumber Run (IRE) 7    11 4
Vino Griego (FR) 7    11 4

--------------20------------

That'll Do (GB) 7    11 4
Golden Chieftain (IRE) 7    11 4
Sir du Bearn (FR) 6    11 4
Harpsy Cord (IRE) 6    11 4
Educated Evans (IRE) 7    11 4


Carrickboy (IRE) 8    11 0
The Cockney Mackem (IRE) 6    11 0
El Lobo (FR) 5    10 13
Bottman (IRE) 7    10 13
Life of A Luso (IRE) 8    10 11
Tiger O'Toole (IRE) 7    10 11
Niceonefrankie (GB) 6    10 10
Pentiffic (NZ) 9    10 10
Temple Lord (FR) 6    10 10
U B Carefull (GB) 9    10 9
Degas Art (IRE) 9    10 8
Barel of Laughs (IRE) 6    10 6
Arctic Ben (IRE) 8    10 4
Grey Soldier (IRE) 7    10 3
Milgen Bay (GB) 6    10 1
Ballyoliver (GB) 8    9 13
Imperial Shabra (IRE) 8    9 12
Forty Five (IRE) 10    9 9
City Theatre (IRE) 8    9 6

Was Lie Forrit ever entered in this?

nearest the pin looks the sleeper here, a possible graded horse who needs good ground (still in the arkle at this stage), he could be heavily supported and go off near favourite on the day

whats general thoughts on hunt ball ?

Bigben - Lie Forrit was in the other handicap (JLT), but no more.
See That'll Do is 21st, won at Cheltenham, never been out the first three on good or better, only won in small fields, but top connections.

Ferdy seemed very confident about Going Wrong at the donny preview the other night.

Denis O'Regan jocked up on Mic's Delight. Still available at 20/1 with Hills or 16/1 with the NRNB firms i.e. all the others.

Good luck Buster.

I've only got eyes for Bless The Wings in this... takien the 8/1 while it lasts.

Quick question....

We have the top 20 horses currently ranked based on OR and weight to be carried.

Below the top 20 we have another 24 runners vying for a place in the race, should one or more of the top 20 defect.

Using the Racing Post card, what is the significance of the number on the card to the left of the horses name for the horses ranked 21st to 44th.

For example, if the horse has a number "1" next to his name, does that mean he'd be the next horse in line to run, should one of the top 20 defect?

Thanks

I think it's the other way round JOCI. Vino Griego (24 next to his name) is obvs next in as his OR is 132, whereas City Theatre (1) is rated only 106 and so must be last. Seems an odd way round of doing it though, no doubt there is a perfectly obvious explanation why.
If Buster is gonna make one of his uber-rare appearances on here again, I would love him to confirm that the booking of Denis guarantees that he runs in this, I like 20s much more than 16s NRNB

Its the order in which they would be ballotted out (1 = 1st out)

Ha! I knew it would be obvious, what a tool..... Cheers MC!!

Just for you Desmond!
He has been left in the Kim Muir as a precaution, but at this stage the plan is the novice handicap with Denis riding. However, if Mr Claisse doesn't deliver the ground promised, I doubt he'll be going anywhere!

He'll have the taps on, no doubt. They're already having to defend themselves over the 'uncompetitive' look to Tuesday (other than Quevega there are no foregone conclusions to my eyes), so won't want the handicaps to cut up too much. There is no rain forcast next week either, so for safe ground on Thur/Fri he'll have to get some water into it ahead of Tuesday.
Thanks very much Buster, I'm greedy so have taken 20s and if he comes out, he comes out. I'll either see you on here to congratulate you, or we'll chat again in what..... 10 years time

If Hunt Ball were mine I'd much rather have him carrying a racing weight against more exposed types in the Byrne Group Plate rather than 12 stone against unexposed types in this.

Having already had a small bet on Educated Evans, I admit one has got under my radar so I'm going in again. I don't think the handicapper has got to this one yet. He's also entered in the Byrne and the Grand Annual, but is less likely to get a run in those.

0.5pt win Educated Evans @ 25/1
1pt win Niceonefrankie @ 16/1 nrnb

Have a look at 'Harpsy Chord' currently around 20/1.
Carrying 11-4
Form over chases is good 3-2-1
Very capable trainer (jim Dreaper) who had a winner last year with What a Charm
Will probaly have Andrew Lynch riding
Sire, Accordian, has good record over middle distances and on good ground around Cheltenham
Owned by Alan Potts and bought for £110,000 STG in 2010

What A Charm was trained by the handicap king Arthur Moore.. think you have to go back a very long time to find Jim Dreaper's last winner at the festival (Ten Up?)

I stand corrected and it was Ten Up in 1975, so he is long over due a win! Still reckon he's worth a few quid each way.