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Howdi
17 Feb 12 19:40
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feck me the traffic - 3 hours from oxford !
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Report Regular Fries February 17, 2012 7:47 PM GMT
i was travelling down to Dorset from Cheshire today foa long standing engagement and decided to drop in at Newbury and catch the first four races. I think a lot of people thought the same!!

Came off the A34 at 11am and got to the racecourse at 12.15, for a 2 mile journey. Fortunately had placed a double on SS and LR so wasn't desperate to get a bet on, but I'd say only another dozen or so cars got in behind me before they closed the gates and a mate of mine who was half an hour behind just turned around.

Not knocking Newbury for the free admission idea but a bit of forsight during half term and a few traffic policeman might have helped.

What's it like on a normal Saturday raceday?
Report strontium February 17, 2012 7:52 PM GMT
Never that bad, even on Hennessey day. It does help if you, er, don't follow the signs.

It also looked gridlocked on the way out.

I took the train - which was also awful because it was the normal service where most trains don't stop at the racecourse station. I couldn't get on the first (3 car) train from Reading and loads of people didn't get on the next one (also only 3 cars). Loads of people also got left at the intermediate stations. Zero foresight from First Great Western.
Report Regular Fries February 17, 2012 7:54 PM GMT
I guess they just weren't expecting the volume. I left after the novice hurdle so it was fine getting away.
Report strontium February 17, 2012 7:57 PM GMT
I suppose I should add traffic in Newbury town centre is always pretty bad because there are so many junctions (lights & roundabouts). 20-30 minutes from the A34 to the course is typical.
Report willie the milk February 17, 2012 8:01 PM GMT
Take out the positives guys. You may have seen a few festival winners there today. Superb days racingGrin
Report strontium February 17, 2012 8:07 PM GMT
Absolutely right Willie Grin
Report strontium February 17, 2012 8:24 PM GMT
12,500 crowd today. They got 19k for the Hennessey this year iirc.
Report sintonian February 17, 2012 8:31 PM GMT
A Lingfield had less than 1000 I think after charging £16 entry. Brains ?
Report sintonian February 17, 2012 8:31 PM GMT
*And
Report Howdi February 17, 2012 8:39 PM GMT
i learnt today very few people have manners one bloke touched my bumper in the queue wasnt so agressive when i told him politely not to.Grin
Report sintonian February 17, 2012 8:58 PM GMT
I hope that is not a euphamism, Howdi! Laugh
Report Howdi February 17, 2012 10:30 PM GMT
I think it was that coont Celtic Son Sintonian Plain
Report undertaker February 18, 2012 6:15 AM GMT
It took us an hour just to get out of the course after the racing, which was nice! Still, we didn't care as we'd had a fantastic day out and seen some wonderful horses.

On a separate note, it was very pleasing to see Betfair's prices on the big screen before every race - I wish they sponsored every meeting I went to. It's always nice to know when taking 9/2 with a bookie that it's not 8/1 on here. Perhaps it's time I joined the 21st century and bought an iPad.Crazy
Report Ibrahima Sonko February 18, 2012 7:15 AM GMT
It took me 10 minutes to get home
Report strontium February 18, 2012 10:13 AM GMT
Undertaker - I thought that was odd actually given using mobile devices for off course betting is supposed to be against the ruls of racing. Has that changed?

Ibrahima - Laugh
Report undertaker February 18, 2012 1:26 PM GMT
Strontium - I think Betfair would argue that the prices on the screen were for information only, to show that the prices on here are so much better than on course. Then, next time you are watching the racing at home, you will hopefully (for them) bet with Betfair rather than the bookies.
Report CJ February 18, 2012 1:46 PM GMT
Must express with the way the racecourse management handled yesterdays bumper crowd yesterday, so many facilities were closed despite the huge crowd. Numerous bars shut, running out of racecards, wide exit gates remaining shut upon exit forcing a huge crowd through a gate 3ft wide while a gate big enough for a lorry remained closed, and poor traffic management both in and out of the course.

With the superb racing on offer, and a guaranteed bumper crowd, it really left a sour taste in the mouth just when racing should be going the extra yard with the many first time race goers.

No blame upon the sponsors, really was a first class day, but feel the management didn't make the most of a golden opportunity.
Report Banks. February 18, 2012 3:56 PM GMT
To be fair if that was the first time you had ever gone racing I reckon the quality of the racing would have been lost on you and you would just rememeber the hassle and think it's not worth it again.
Report zilzal1 February 18, 2012 3:59 PM GMT
Would agree with Banks there, imagine the moaning about travel from wife and family!!!!


And ive not even got to the queue's for food and drink
Report buddeliea February 18, 2012 4:00 PM GMT
what,when it was free?!!
4 hours of entertainment for no entrance fee!!
With a load of top horses on show!!!  you sure??
Report Banks. February 18, 2012 4:06 PM GMT
Depending what time you got there and left I reckon you could have spent as long in a traffic jam as you did watching the whole meeting.

The quality of horses and racing is pretty irrelevant to newcomers. They wouldn't know the difference between a seller and a grade 1 chase.

I can't help but think that the whole thing backfired a little in terms of tempting first timers to return. Many will think that what they experienced was a standard raceday when in fact nothing could be further from the truth.
Report VikingRidge February 18, 2012 4:14 PM GMT
I gave the junction on the A34 that tailed back a swerve and took a following junction, then park in the town centre and not the course. From course to Milton Keynes was under 2 hours.
Report strontium February 18, 2012 6:50 PM GMT
I bumped into a mate at Ascot today who took 4 hours to get out of the car park after racing yesterday. He got home to Oxford (about 20 miles) after 8.
Report Banks. February 18, 2012 8:13 PM GMT
I didn't get out until after 6. I spent the best part of a couple of hours comparing Cheltenham views with another bloke who was also stuck in the car park to pass the time.
Report Masterminded February 18, 2012 8:55 PM GMT
4 hours to get out of the car park? Did he get lost? Laugh
TBH it took me about half an hour to get out of Newbury and I agree the stewards that should have been taking control of the traffic were pathetic. Think they cut back on everything they could as it was free entry and it turned into an unorganised mess leaving the course. At the end of the day it was a good thing they even managed to get it on but they did need to have more qualified stewards along with facilities for a crowd of that size.
Report strontium February 18, 2012 9:00 PM GMT
Possibly Laugh He says there was a crash that blocked one exit and failed traffic lights effectively blocked the other.
Report sintonian February 18, 2012 9:02 PM GMT
In the morning on RUK they reported that Newbury were only expecting 5,000 people. But, more than double that turned up.
Report Ibrahima Sonko February 18, 2012 9:04 PM GMT
you need to turn right from the parking and drive through the golf course
Report Ibrahima Sonko February 18, 2012 9:07 PM GMT
strontium, the guy from newbury was on talksport on friday saying they were prepared and expecting around 6k plus all facilities were open.

Rubbish half the place was shut, and more laughable was that i was not allowed to place a placepot on other meetings.

Racing treat customers like crap, even on a free day.
Report strontium February 18, 2012 9:07 PM GMT
That is true Ibrahima - though it's at that end the traffic lights failed (I guess at the junction for the town and reading).
Report strontium February 18, 2012 9:09 PM GMT
Yeah, I'm a member but I prefer to watch NH racing from the Grandstand as you get a much better view. Almost all the bars/catering was closed.

Incidentally, the best place to eat at Newbury is the dingy fish and chip shop. Doesn't look much, but first class.
Report Ibrahima Sonko February 18, 2012 9:16 PM GMT
I always went racing for a social event as i know a few people as its my hometown etc.

for the last 2 years i have been going to the restaurant, clearly it is a waste of money but you get treated well and it eliminates the queuing. And the view is 2nd to none, i used to watch races and guessing who was going well.

I never thought i would ever be sat in a restaurant at the races as prefer the ring and the atmosphere.

But with a drink delivered and not having to pay £10 for some **** food it isnt that bad.
Report strontium February 18, 2012 9:20 PM GMT
Ib - is that the Racegoers or the Hennessey restaurant?
Report Ibrahima Sonko February 18, 2012 9:28 PM GMT
Both

but mainly go to racegoers as it £30 cheaper and the view is better, plus you can have a **** on the balcony Cool

used to be called the vodafone stand when it was built but now its call the dubai something, doesnt ring right with hh fans......

We paid £50 a head on friday, it was 45 for the challow meeting. Stick to lesser meetings.

The thing is most people wont kick about paying £15 for a poor meal that is microwaved but pay £7 for a burger. you pay a little more but you have people delivering drinks.

I can guess that you already know that being served at newbury is horrendous.

ps 5 years ago i would never had thought of entering a restaurant at a racecourse, they are the people getting treated like a customer and not like cattle.
Report Ibrahima Sonko February 18, 2012 9:29 PM GMT
****  smoke
Report VikingRidge February 18, 2012 9:37 PM GMT
Is the members area at Newbury not that great? I'm going to membership once I get paid I think, £110 for a whole year is quite decent value!
Report strontium February 18, 2012 9:38 PM GMT
I've been to the Racegoers Ib and I enjoyed it. I like to get down to the betting ring and the parade ring though so a table for the day is a waste for me. I think it would be good with a group though, especially if you go with racing newbies. You are right about the view - probably the best at the course.
Report zilzal1 February 18, 2012 9:39 PM GMT
Dont they have bluddy concerts half the summer??
Report strontium February 18, 2012 9:43 PM GMT
Viking - the members area is terrible! It's small, hot and full of OAPs who sit there all day so you can never sit down. The doormen are rude and the members viewing seats probably have the worst view anywhere in the course.

However, it's a cheap way of getting to see the Newbury racing (which is almost always good) and the reciprocal arrangements are great. So if you go racing for racing (like to watch, see the horses before and after the races so don't want to sit around all day) I'd recommend it quite strongly. They also do quite good deals with discount tickets for guests.
Report strontium February 18, 2012 9:46 PM GMT
Zilzal - 3 or 4 times a summer yes. But I only really go on Lockinge day in the flat season Wink
Report Ibrahima Sonko February 18, 2012 9:47 PM GMT
Newbury overall is one of the best viewing tracks VR

But up in the restaurant you can actually see how well a horse is going 3 out.

Im like you stront and the table is a waste but the drinks service or the service is spot on, starting to sound like a want a drink. I have about 5 pints during the day but i dont have to que.

i have my meal at least 30 mins before the first race.

I always pop down to the parade ring. I admit i miss the hussle bussle and chating to old friends, but the time i could had spent at a bar for one drink makes it more worthwhile.
Report Ibrahima Sonko February 18, 2012 9:48 PM GMT
dont they all zil
Report strontium February 18, 2012 9:54 PM GMT
Apparenty they got 30000 in for the Tom Jones concert/raceday this summer. I can't blame them from a financial point of view but it must have been hell on earth.

I agree with Ib that Newbury is one of the best viewing tracks in the country.
Report VikingRidge February 18, 2012 10:09 PM GMT
Strontium, I can honestly say I dont think I have ever eaten or brought a pint at a racecourse... I go racing purely for the racing, favourite thing is strangely the preparade ring, love taking photo's before the races etc. Shame about the viewing; as that would be the main useage I would have for the members area. The recip days quite often interlap with each other means I can offer my mates free tickets... Which tends to be the only way I can convince them to go! Saying that I'm more than happy on my tod!

The membership badges for me make racing quite cheap; got one for Cheltenham, Newmarket, Leopardstown & York (assuming application is successful)...
Report strontium February 18, 2012 10:16 PM GMT
Viking - the pre-parade ring at Newbury is pretty good. One day last summer I found myself standing at the rail next to the Queen. I'm a member at Newbury, Cheltenham and Warwick. More than that and they satrt to lose value because the reciprocal days clash. Re Newbury membership, the biggest benefit is it's so much cheaper if you go to most meetings there - It costs almost £100 for the Hennessey meeting alone.
Report judorick February 18, 2012 10:27 PM GMT
I like the Spring Mile meeting at the start of the flat, doesn't get over crowded, genuine race fans and that lovely spring weather... ah happy days
Report VikingRidge February 18, 2012 10:31 PM GMT
Yeah I love the preparade ring at Newbury, your so close to the horses! If your always at the preparade ring I'm guessing you've probably stood next to me at some point. Thats one of the reasons i'm going to get membership at Newbury. I want to see Frankel so will be at the Lockinge and then I ussually go to 2 days of the Hennessy. So any other meeting I go to would be a bonus really.

That's certainly someone I wouldn't expect to see next to me.

Have to say Warwick is one of my favourite courses I've ever been to. Went for the Grand National trial day, and really enjoyed the whole set up there. As it's only an hour down the road will try and make an effort to go more often!
Report ronnie rails February 18, 2012 10:33 PM GMT
vikingRidge

regarding york membership, you are long odds on to be accepted this year as they are now desperate for members as more people have left over the last few years than have joined. i got my first badge out in 1974 but let it elapsed a few years ago, i applied in November for a new badge and was accepted straight away. The only bug bear it is 340 for the season and the joining fee is the same.

Also the champagne is the cheapest at any racecourse I bought a bottle of Moet it cost less than 40 it was more than twice that at the royal meeting, roll on Dante.
Report strontium February 18, 2012 10:36 PM GMT
Viking - I'm 98% certain we were chatting by the pre-parade ring at the Kempton jumpers bumpers last week, looking at Oscar Whisky! I like Warwick too for jumps (I'm a jumps only member) - it's decent (NH) racing and again an excellent pre-parade ring, though many people seem to hate the place.
Report VikingRidge February 18, 2012 10:45 PM GMT
Ronnie, Glad to hear it... One of my mates Dad and Uncle are members so I have got my application seconded. I'm not a great fan of the course, but as I was planning on going to the ebor it makes sense.

Yeah I think we were... Bensalem ;-)

I like the fact that in the stand you can see all of the fences quite easily. Yeah really nice preparade ring as well. Never been for the flat tbh.

Quite like it there as well, as I found it quite easy to work out who would go on the course and who wouldn't.
Report strontium February 18, 2012 10:46 PM GMT
Viking - Yes Grin
Report ronnie rails February 18, 2012 10:51 PM GMT
viking

Hope you get in, let the guys who propose you know that they get a free bottle of bubbly for doing so, check your acceptance literature when it comes.
Report VikingRidge February 18, 2012 11:00 PM GMT
Didn't realise that Ronnie, will make sure he gets it if he can!

strontium, I got Vulcanite wrong aye...
Report strontium February 18, 2012 11:12 PM GMT
LaughTough these novice hurdles.
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