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Tory
12 Jan 12 17:32
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Any idea when we are likely to see this one again? Just watched his Sandown and Kempton runs and looks very impressive.

Trying to work out the Supreme and its a bugger at the moment.
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Report zilzal1 January 12, 2012 7:35 PM GMT
Bit puzzled why this one isnt shorter, only two logical explanations

A-Someone knows that it might not be the plan and the stable has better

B-The books think its only beaten stayers who will be better over further

If it was going is have it around the 12-1 mark in the AP market, its far bigger than that
Report Tory January 12, 2012 7:50 PM GMT
Yeah, the price actually concerns me as well.

Dont want to be heavily investing AP regardless, but would be interested. Watching the two races back it seems to jump beautifully, travel well and quicken up nicely.

Hadn't written off SLC until I watched all races back this evening - just doesn't seem to find anything once asked the question. Was hoping it just needed a strong pace, which would be guaranteed on the 13th, but not so sure now
Report Rod Tidwell January 12, 2012 9:23 PM GMT
Find it hard to cheer on any horse owned by the brains behind the whip debacle tbh...wherever it runs I doubt that Robert Cooper will be getting the leg up!
Report sintonian January 13, 2012 12:48 PM GMT
I just cant get out of my head the fact this horse spent 600 days off the track. I know his bumper form is classy but is he really a Grade 1 winner in waiting ?
Report R Carver January 13, 2012 4:21 PM GMT
Not in my opinion Sintonian. I'd be amazed if good enough to win the Supreme. I suspect the yard have 3 or 4 better on home work.
Report buddeliea January 13, 2012 4:57 PM GMT
Whats he done wrong?
Looking at the horses ahead of him,are they that much better??
Sluices up after a long lay off and then follows up with another nice win.
My dad,bless him,always told me not to be afraid of the price,horse dont know what price he is.
Report R Carver January 13, 2012 5:00 PM GMT
That is true Budd and handsome is as handsome does and he has done it thus far on the track, where it counts. I do not fancy him, but there are worse punts.
Report Tory January 13, 2012 5:10 PM GMT
Thats why i'd like to see it appear in a graded race in the next month.

Both horses that came second in his two races have also gone onto win their next race and he did it all quite easily.
Report Masterminded January 13, 2012 5:11 PM GMT
Think he could be a Gibb River 3rd or 4th rank I would say. Lovely performances so far though.
Report buddeliea January 13, 2012 5:16 PM GMT
Certainly think theres a good case for his price being too big.
Wish i knew he was definitely running,i would go in again for sure.
There does seem to be a few holes in the candidates,not sure hes got more than many.
Report tweedledumbtweedletwat January 13, 2012 9:11 PM GMT
i think hes a great bet.
Report nocturnal January 15, 2012 2:07 PM GMT
Two very likeable performances,settles well and jumps fluently.Finnished both his hurdle runs well suggesting he won,t be beaten for stamina,or by likely ground conditions.No entries at present,like to see him jump left handed however his bumper form suggests he should be fne.The horse he beat at kempton vulcanite is entered up twice later this week,he looked a certain improver as well,both are definately worth a second glance wherever they are entered.
Report Joist January 15, 2012 2:18 PM GMT
I would concur that I find it hard to think there aren't at least one or two better in the Henderson yard. But he has no real negatives that we can see yet, his form is stacking up exceptionally well, and if Ebaziyan Cry can win a Supreme Novices' then I see no reason that this fell can't.
Report nocturnal January 15, 2012 2:32 PM GMT
Yet to see them Joist,you may well be right,however the days of this being a speed test seem over,as for ebaziyan he was plotted up,and sadly my last winner of the supreme.
Report Joist January 15, 2012 6:31 PM GMT
He may well have been plotted up but my point was more that it doesn't neccesarily take a flashy/star-billed animal, as Ebaziyan's subsequent career would prove. What a rancid winner of the race he was Laugh

True, if there are better than they're being wrapped up to say the least.
Report cammy glasgow January 15, 2012 6:33 PM GMT
was impressed with his kempton run 20/1 lads for supreme mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmMischief
Report rogerthebutler January 19, 2012 4:33 PM GMT
16/1 with most firms now (good news)

20/1 with Laddies (bad news - they always know best!)
Report Can't Catch Me January 19, 2012 4:36 PM GMT
Although an egg and spoon race, Vulcanite certainly gave the form a bit of a boost. He looked a real nice prospect.
Report buddeliea January 19, 2012 8:29 PM GMT
yep,did no harm,thats for sure
Report Can't Catch Me February 10, 2012 3:12 PM GMT
I know it was a completely different test, but he did that very, very nicely.

Looks a fantastic prospect. Would love to know what the plans are.... I suppose the flat run suggests they could be thinking of a handicap route, even in spite of the lack of options? Cant see NJH taking this route with one of his best hopes for the Supreme myself.
Report Can't Catch Me February 10, 2012 3:13 PM GMT
Mind you, has shortened considerably in the Supreme market!
Report Can't Catch Me February 10, 2012 3:15 PM GMT
Still some 20's available with Hills. Cant see that lasting and already 19 to back on here.
Report BJG February 10, 2012 3:17 PM GMT
He said Supreme i think???
Report magic carpet February 10, 2012 3:19 PM GMT
Don't forget Vulcanite.....
Report Can't Catch Me February 10, 2012 3:20 PM GMT
Didnt see the interview mate, but betting definitely suggests that. Wonder if they have decided to do this because they want to take it a bit steadier due to the injuries he had? Would worry me slightly as he hasnt had that much experience over hurdles. Some engine though.
Report BJG February 10, 2012 3:22 PM GMT
pphorseracing Paddy Power Racing
N Henderson has abundance of 2m novices but Tetlami defo goes for race. He goes wel fresh & Corky Browne thght he shud hav gone strait ther


CheltFestNews CheltFestNews
Tetlami wins his jumpers bumper at Kempton. Should set him up for a crack at the Supreme Novices' Hurdle7
Report Can't Catch Me February 10, 2012 3:23 PM GMT
He'll be going there fresh! Hardly broke sweat today...
Report buddeliea February 10, 2012 4:49 PM GMT
yep,that was ok for a prep i reckon.
Happy with the news hes going for the Supreme,that was my main worry.
Think the horse is a big player.
Report TD_Gunner February 10, 2012 6:00 PM GMT
Agree with the majority, really fancy Mr Roy's horse to run a stormer, can't wait for Vulcanite's next run. Fancy that Kempton race to prove strong form with those two pulling clear.
Report strontium February 10, 2012 7:40 PM GMT
Tetlami looked very well in the paddock today before hand - he's a good looking horse.
Report VikingRidge February 10, 2012 7:42 PM GMT
I think the form line for the Supremes is the Kempton race at Xmas, and Vulcanite imo is the one to side with. Tetlami had the benefit of a run over hurdles last time they meant. Granted he was giving Vulcanite 5lb, but I think he can reverse form. Quote from Charlie:

"26Dec11 Kempton   ( 16 GS ,RPR137 )

I´d be very disappointed if Tetlami beat us again. He´ll improve a lot for that and will just take the freshness out of him"
Report Can't Catch Me February 10, 2012 7:46 PM GMT
I would personally fancy Tetlami to uphold the form myself
Report VikingRidge February 10, 2012 7:51 PM GMT
Dunno first run for 80 days, and from the sounds of it he needed it.
Report Can't Catch Me February 10, 2012 7:59 PM GMT
That not what they were saying before though VR! I had a pretty hefty bet on Vulcanite and the word was he was very ready first time up.

I agree he'll come on for the race, but remember Tetlami had run 3 weeks before and that was his first run in 300 days! So you'd have to think he has been brought along slowly. To beat him giving weight and win going away was impressive imo.
Report VikingRidge February 10, 2012 8:04 PM GMT
Right I didn't know that bit tbh...

As I said I think thats the form line for the Supremes, so I am going to back both. Will just have a bit more on Vulcanite.
Report Can't Catch Me February 10, 2012 8:05 PM GMT
Sorry, I mis-typed that as well... first run in 600 days!!
Report R Carver February 10, 2012 9:02 PM GMT
Strontium, would he jump a fence IYO?
Report strontium February 10, 2012 10:26 PM GMT
RC - Very much so I think. He has a big, powerful front end and nimble hindquarters. He's a very althletic looking horse.

I don't want to overegg things, but with that big white blaze he reminded me a little of Kauto Star - they have the same sort of body shape (though Tetlami is much lighter coloured and less physically imposing than Kauto).
Report R Carver February 10, 2012 10:45 PM GMT
Thanks Strontium. I thought he had filled out somewhat this yr myself. I saw him in the flesh in his bumper days and thought him too small but he looks quite a stocky model since returning. Quite stylish today. Looked bitterly cold. Thanks for the information.
Report strontium February 10, 2012 10:51 PM GMT
He couldn't have done much more today in the circumstances.

It was bitterly cold, especially by the end - but had to stick around to see Oscar Whisky.
Report R Carver February 10, 2012 10:56 PM GMT
Grin Good man!
Report nocturnal March 5, 2012 8:16 PM GMT
"GB,it,s me" (chuckle chuckle)

"Err Hi N......... HJN,hows tricks?"

"All on course as you might say,just to let you know the things flying,I,ve even had FM down,you remember him,and golly did he get a tune out of the beast!!! Remember the takeaway horse, who,s name escapes me,this ones even better."

"Ahhh....better than Ibajnup? christ they will need sonib to see which way he went!!!"

"Exactly GB,now queen mums the word,I,m having elevenses with countess von shilling,who has promised me Ibajnups half brother,So must dash."

"Uhhmm....ok HJN..see ya next week."
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