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25 Oct 11
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quoted at 20/1 for the supreme novices following todays ready success. goes to paddy power meeting. long way to go before the festival obviously so i wouldnt go wild but a nice performance all the same
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Tough one, didnt jump well enough today and dived at a couple but obvious engine and may jump better at stronger pace.
Think there will be stronger than this though for supreme,
Think there will be stronger than this though for supreme,
I got a reply on Twitter from Paul Nicholls (thinly veiled brag) when asking if he's a Supreme Novices' hopeful, he said that he hope so. Goes next to the race that Cue Card won last year at the Open meeting, the Sharp novices' hurdle.
I got a reply on Twitter from Paul Nicholls (thinly veiled brag) when asking if he's a Supreme Novices' hopeful, he said that he hope so. Goes next to the race that Cue Card won last year at the Open meeting, the Sharp novices' hurdle.
I would be amazed if Nicholls manages to get this to Cheltenham in one piece and is good enough for the Supreme. Looks like a very difficult horse to train.
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i actually like this one, ive been on a bit of a wind up about some of his horses alright being better than hendersons. i apologise
i actually like this one, ive been on a bit of a wind up about some of his horses alright being better than hendersons. i apologise
Would anyone be so kind as to post what Nicholls says about Prospect Wells in his Stable Tour in today's RP?
7/2 tomorrow. more than fair i think. il be throwing a few bob on anyhow
Ran a very good race and idled in front a bit for me. Considering that was only his second run over hurdles, and if he was produced a bit later, I would fancy him to reverse form with the winner at the Festival.
^Me too, readily. Though I'd be suprised if the Supreme winner comes out of that race.
Readily??
Have i missed something Stront? looked a genuine winner did STF,well to me anyway.
Have i missed something Stront? looked a genuine winner did STF,well to me anyway.
That was my impression, but it is just an impression, at the course in real time.
I thought STF was lucky to win and I think PW may well improve more for the experience (2nd hurdle run vs 3rd). I felt PW lost a lot of momentum when he hit the second last which cost him this race. STF was certainly tough but PW probably has more intrinsic class.
Perhaps Ericht is the one to take out of the race getting so close to two promising sorts on his first hurdle run. However, the proximity of the three of them makes me think the form of this race was unlikley to be extra special.
I thought STF was lucky to win and I think PW may well improve more for the experience (2nd hurdle run vs 3rd). I felt PW lost a lot of momentum when he hit the second last which cost him this race. STF was certainly tough but PW probably has more intrinsic class.
Perhaps Ericht is the one to take out of the race getting so close to two promising sorts on his first hurdle run. However, the proximity of the three of them makes me think the form of this race was unlikley to be extra special.
Funny aint it,i thought that STF had more to give,and looked the most likely winner most of the way.
Still,be interesting to see how they do from here on.
Not easy with these novices!!
Still,be interesting to see how they do from here on.
Not easy with these novices!!
Yep, especially for the novice hurdlers. Plus they keep appearing right up to the beginning of March. I might not have any AP bets on the novice hurdles this time round.
False run race with all in contention at the top of the hill. STF a worthy winner for me but all first 3 home would have been suited by a stronger pace but probably Ericht most so. Wouldn't be surprised to see him moved up to the Neptune trip.
Graham Wylie sees Prospect Wells as an ideal candidate for the Supreme Novices' Hurdle following his highly creditable performance at Ascot on Saturday.
The six-year-old won two of his first three starts over hurdles for Paul Nicholls and was a narrow second behind Steps To Freedom on his other appearance at Cheltenham.
He was sent off favourite for The Ladbroke last weekend and although beaten into fourth in the lucrative handicap, his owner feels there are plenty of positives to take from his performance.
"The thing we have to remember with him is that he's only a novice," said Wylie.
"Paul put him in the race to have a look and because he was favourite, he felt almost obliged to run, and he did run a very good race.
"He was giving weight to the three horses that finished in front of him, so that is encouraging.
"The other thing is, the race wasn't run to suit. Ruby said they didn't go fast enough for him and if you watch the replay, he was making up ground at the finish. I think on better ground and with a faster pace, he can be right there.
"The thing Paul was most happy about was that his jumping was superb, which is what it's all about in this game.
"When he first went to Paul's, his jumping wasn't great, but he has really improved and he was very slick the other day.
"I'm not sure where he'll go now, I'll leave that up to Paul, but the race for him at Cheltenham is definitely the Supreme.
"We were a bit worried about how he'd handle Cheltenham but he showed he likes coming down the hill when he ran there in November."
The six-year-old won two of his first three starts over hurdles for Paul Nicholls and was a narrow second behind Steps To Freedom on his other appearance at Cheltenham.
He was sent off favourite for The Ladbroke last weekend and although beaten into fourth in the lucrative handicap, his owner feels there are plenty of positives to take from his performance.
"The thing we have to remember with him is that he's only a novice," said Wylie.
"Paul put him in the race to have a look and because he was favourite, he felt almost obliged to run, and he did run a very good race.
"He was giving weight to the three horses that finished in front of him, so that is encouraging.
"The other thing is, the race wasn't run to suit. Ruby said they didn't go fast enough for him and if you watch the replay, he was making up ground at the finish. I think on better ground and with a faster pace, he can be right there.
"The thing Paul was most happy about was that his jumping was superb, which is what it's all about in this game.
"When he first went to Paul's, his jumping wasn't great, but he has really improved and he was very slick the other day.
"I'm not sure where he'll go now, I'll leave that up to Paul, but the race for him at Cheltenham is definitely the Supreme.
"We were a bit worried about how he'd handle Cheltenham but he showed he likes coming down the hill when he ran there in November."
there can be no doubt the horse has a ton of ability, placed in Group 1 on the flat. Certainly agree about a fast pace and better ground. Don't see him winnimng the Supreme but he should put up a good show
CLASSY novice Prospect Wells will face four rivals in Saturday's 32Red-sponsoredGrade 1 Tolworth Hurdle at Sandown.
Trained by Paul Nicholls, the seven-year-old has won two of his four starts over hurdles and was fourth in the Ladbroke last time.
He takes on Captain Conan, Colour Squadron, High Storm and Magnifique Etoile.
Charlie Longsdon, who trains Magnifique Etoile, will check conditions at Sandown before deciding if the five-year-old will run.
"He's done nothing wrong," said Longsdon, speaking to At The Races on Friday.
"All the others are more seasoned, but he's improving and deserves to take his chance. I'll have a look at Sandown tomorrow. It's all fresh ground, but we'll see how it rides after the first two hurdle races."
Magnifique Etoile, a son of Kayf Tara, has bolted up in two starts over hurdles and Longsdon added: "We've always really liked him. We thought he'd win a couple of hurdle races, but not in the manner he has.
"They were not the greatest of races, but he couldn't have done it any better."
Trained by Paul Nicholls, the seven-year-old has won two of his four starts over hurdles and was fourth in the Ladbroke last time.
He takes on Captain Conan, Colour Squadron, High Storm and Magnifique Etoile.
Charlie Longsdon, who trains Magnifique Etoile, will check conditions at Sandown before deciding if the five-year-old will run.
"He's done nothing wrong," said Longsdon, speaking to At The Races on Friday.
"All the others are more seasoned, but he's improving and deserves to take his chance. I'll have a look at Sandown tomorrow. It's all fresh ground, but we'll see how it rides after the first two hurdle races."
Magnifique Etoile, a son of Kayf Tara, has bolted up in two starts over hurdles and Longsdon added: "We've always really liked him. We thought he'd win a couple of hurdle races, but not in the manner he has.
"They were not the greatest of races, but he couldn't have done it any better."
Trainer more interested in winning Trainers title than anything else - on record as saying he was gonna give the horse a break but saw a weak entry for Tolworth so decided to go to the well again - has probably messed up his Cheltenham prospects in the process
Prospect has been campaigned badly for a prospective Supreme horse (which I have not/do not think he is). The way he has been campaigned suggests to me that his master trainer does not thnk he is a Supreme winner in waiting either. He would not give many of his best 2 mile prospects 5 runs by Jan 7th. I think he'll be better on spring ground back at Cheltenham in a fast run race after being freshened up (today was an afterthought apparently too), but to me he looks more like a ex-flat handicapper and the County looks a better prospect for him IMO.
Silverbuck & R Carver couldn't agree more. Never thought he was a Supreme horse but he's having his chances ruined anyway. Think he could run in the Neptune personally on faster ground. May help a bit.
However, and in all seriousness, it must be said that Prospect Wells really had me scratching my head after his lifeless performance in the Tolworth at Sandown. I was at a total loss.
It would have been all too easy to have simply written it off as trainer error for running the horse too soon after Ascot and as an afterthought - after all, we only put him in the Tolworth after the race re-opened at the five day stage - but the way he ran suggested there was far, far more to it than that.
So we looked into it.
When you haven't specifically geared a horse towards a big race, a disappointing run is always a danger. But it must be stressed that he did more than enough in his work on the Thursday before the race to take his chance. But the run was too bad to be true and Ruby said to me that the horse sounded thicker in his wind than he normally does.
There is always the temptation to write off performances like this as simply a bad day at the office and move on - we all have them, after all - but you don't leave any stone unturned with horses as good as Prospect Wells. And I wouldn't be doing my job if I did.
So we got Geoff Lane in to take a look at him, and scope him, and thank god we did.
Because he discovered that the horse had an entrapped epiglottis and that 100 per cent explains the Sandown run. You are now going to ask me what an entrapped epiglottis means. To keep it simple, it is like a car running on two cylinders instead of four.
So he is being operated on this Saturday. The reason we are leaving it until this weekend is because Geoff has organised for a specialist in this field to come and operate on him. The operation doesn't involve a general anaesthetic.
I do know that one high-profile horse had the same problem last season, was operated on in in the first week of February, and then won at Cheltenham. So hopefully we still have a Festival horse on our hands.
Prospect Wells has options in both the Supreme and County Hurdle, and we have won the County with novices in the past, such as American Trilogy in 2009 and Desert Quest in 2006.
Plans and ratings change, but at this stage I would be leaning towards the Supreme. But, honestly, I am not sure, so bear that in mind when you are betting.
It would have been all too easy to have simply written it off as trainer error for running the horse too soon after Ascot and as an afterthought - after all, we only put him in the Tolworth after the race re-opened at the five day stage - but the way he ran suggested there was far, far more to it than that.
So we looked into it.
When you haven't specifically geared a horse towards a big race, a disappointing run is always a danger. But it must be stressed that he did more than enough in his work on the Thursday before the race to take his chance. But the run was too bad to be true and Ruby said to me that the horse sounded thicker in his wind than he normally does.
There is always the temptation to write off performances like this as simply a bad day at the office and move on - we all have them, after all - but you don't leave any stone unturned with horses as good as Prospect Wells. And I wouldn't be doing my job if I did.
So we got Geoff Lane in to take a look at him, and scope him, and thank god we did.
Because he discovered that the horse had an entrapped epiglottis and that 100 per cent explains the Sandown run. You are now going to ask me what an entrapped epiglottis means. To keep it simple, it is like a car running on two cylinders instead of four.
So he is being operated on this Saturday. The reason we are leaving it until this weekend is because Geoff has organised for a specialist in this field to come and operate on him. The operation doesn't involve a general anaesthetic.
I do know that one high-profile horse had the same problem last season, was operated on in in the first week of February, and then won at Cheltenham. So hopefully we still have a Festival horse on our hands.
Prospect Wells has options in both the Supreme and County Hurdle, and we have won the County with novices in the past, such as American Trilogy in 2009 and Desert Quest in 2006.
Plans and ratings change, but at this stage I would be leaning towards the Supreme. But, honestly, I am not sure, so bear that in mind when you are betting.
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