LONG RUN AND BIG BUCKS...........

Oscar Whiskey 

They both look good things but the king george guaranteed to be a tougher race this yer - captain chris, wishful thinking, master minded may all turn up.

diamond harry

Stay away from staying chases no value the competition is heavy next season. Early season Long Run wasnt spot on as shown at Cheltenham, he will have to be for the KG.

Kauto was not the horse he was in the KG think there will be a horse graduating from the novice ranks will give him more to do this season. He will have to be spot on come the KG again this season.

I agree Eric. I think he was spot on for this yr's renewal but if they all turn up he'd need to be this time too.

Oscar Whiskey

Captain Chris wins the KG

diamond hazza does

Diamond Harry???
i hear their Keeping him Fresh for the 2012 KG [smiley:crazy]

maybe so, he should run well in 2012 then maybe he wont be the same horse after his injury, but from what i gather its not serious[:(]

Diamond is terrific on his day, but wouldn't they train him for newbury again in the hope that Denman turns up? Either way, if they did not, Ireland may be a better option for him that the KG, although I think Nick Williams has said he was not that keen on taking him over there.

easy picking are those irish g1s, lexus, hennessey and john durkan

just topped up yesterday again ton dbl 6/4 5/4...............kempton suits long run better imo ? always has unbeaten there ?

not a good week , but nevertheless topped up again £50 dbl.6/4 , 5/4, hills................................................................

good luck with your bet cammy but if i were you i would put a few of these doubles on  and take the price on big bucks but leave long run   at s.p ,long run could well start around 5/2 -3/1 or bigger given the strength of opposition he will face and you havent got to worry if hes a non runner

Foyle no way will LONG RUN be 5/2 for the king george . who u kidding loves it around kmpton , i wud bit your hand off for 5/2 , daft commnt that m8.......i recon he will end up 10/11 on the day , but thats only my opinion

with master minded and captain chris / wishfull thinking in the lineup? odds on? your havin a laugh surely[:(]

cammy mate its up to you if you look at last years threads you will see that i was all over long run for the gold cup and i backed him in last years king george but he was up against horses that were past there best .....kauto denman ect he will be up against some real up and coming young chasers this year  capt chris wish think plus a few less exposed improvers coming out of the woodwork  not saying he wont do it but his task will be much harder this time round ,good luck with your bets !

A little each way on Captain Chris might be a nice cover as Wishful Thinking, ended last season on a mark in the 160's, well Hobbs reckons Captain Chris is the better of the two and we probably haven't seen him over his best trip yet, the major worry would be the ground, but if Hobbs is right and CC is better than WT now, and with improvement to come, he will take a lot of stopping in the KG and GC

yes neili fancy him big for the gold cup if hobbs campaings him that route ,the way he travelled in the arkle i knew barring a fall from halfway i had done the win part of my realt dubh bet . i dont think the g.cup  trip will be a problem kicking king and war of attrition plus kauto were 2 milers early on and being by presenting stamina should be no problem .would think p.hobbs would go gold cup but as he has wish think as well it makes it trickey having an ante post bet now ,should get some idea when those stable tours come out .good luck with your bets .

I am not sure i can have CC around Cheltenham again - odd to say about a horse who has won twice there, I know. He outstayed Finians in March and Finians was making him look a mug at the top of the hill (i know races are not won at the top of the hill). CC was a deserved winner at the line but he wont outstay Long Run in the Gold Cup  IMO and his jumping going left is a concern for me. He has tones of scope and is a really likeable horse but seems to have a tendency to go right. He hung right even when he won over hurdles. Maybe his breathing op has helped, maybe it was immaturity, maybe the slightly slower Gold Cup speed will help. The horse loves Kempton, and I would think he'd be an e/w player at least, maybe in the mould of Riverside last yr, probably better in fact and probably able to land a blow on Long Run in that race.

Foyles, I agree, I do not think CC would have a problem with the GC trip and the type of ground we often see come up now in March should not be a problem, the reverse in fact.

it would be foolish to dismiss wishful thinking lightly as hes improving all the time,that display at aintree was brilliant and then again in ireland giving weight

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THATS WITH ALL YOUR TOPPING UP

Captain Chris definitely wins the King George.

Brave call...........or somewhat rash.

haha, tongue in cheek

You fancy it though,and hes a real interesting horse for next season for sure.
But whats his distance going to be??

grand national

He is the one horse I am most excited about for next season. Think 3 miles round Kempton will be his absolute ideal, as long as the ground isnt too soft.

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hi guys 4/5 BUCKS NOW @ HILLS.................won a few squid yesterday so back in tommorow 6/4.evs independant.................getin tickets tmora good luck all

this bet is lookin better by the day bucks 4/7 after yesterday and long run 11/8.........great dbl and lookin forward to boxing day.also a good single on long run for king geo @ 6/4.........bucks BOMB PROOF IN MARCH.

well dream dbl over guys KAUTO was assume deserved it nothing more to say eh

Unlucky, you or anyone can't be expected to legislate for the ongoing legend of the King.