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Cheltenham Festival
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UNREAL,FIRST RACE TIMED AT 3 MINUTES 48 SECONDS,CLAISSE YOU KNO**EAD
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when make a stand won the CHAMPION HURDLE in 3 mins 48.4 seconds,it was like a road,these are novices ffs,and have just ran as fast a champion hurdler,unreal.
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Good to soft places are probably in the bar................
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who are yuo saying for race 2?
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Hand timed,but im not far out.
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who likes firm ground?
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Sea the STARS
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What race is sea the stars running in
 .This is a joke,its a total farce,that ground has never been soft at any stage in the last weeks,when it was APPARENTLY good to soft,it was good. The punters have been stitched up like kippers again,they must have broken the track record for novices. |
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last 2 weeks(insert)
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ruby said the ground was riding dead
is there an official time? |
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nicholls just said its riding on the slow side
247lol, think you're talkinh b ollocks mate |
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No Supreme could have been run in sub 3.55 on dead ground
unless hes mucked the distances around |
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have they said it was 3 55 zilzal?
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Official time 3-52-16
I made it quicker than that...... It aint dead unless he shortened the supreme course |
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Thankyou zilzal,its was timed at 3 mins 52.2 secs,and you made a very good point.
nickf**kface you are a total plonker,you are a stupid sheep that listens to all the b**locks like the rest of the flock. Now im telling you as a 100% FACT thats its fast,dont worry if the top of the turf is chopping up a bit,bacause Claisse has watered,so its loose on top. But the times say it is lightening fast,hence why Captain chris just won,it loves it. And if you spent a bit more time working things out instead of listening to all the s**t these tw**s tell you,you might have backed the arkle winner like i did Have a nice day,i will be [;)] |
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ps,where the f**k they got 2 mins 52.2 secs from,god only knows,because i dont.
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sorry 3 mins 52.2 secs
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timed it twice split seconds either side of 3:51 dont start timing until the tapes go up
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Just posted this on my forum. Noel Meade has just said; "No excuses, just wasnt good enough. Paul said ground was soft, very soft in places and that should suit Pandorama" WTF?????????????????????????????????
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if so id like to walk the course with a pedometer
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dont know you 247lol but you sound like a right twallophead
walsh, nicholls, meade and king all said ground riding slowly, but you know best catain chris a 2 and a half miler, managed to win, just confirms it it's not FAST ground, it's just good ground obviously. its obviously not too slow because of the supreme time |
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Times dont lie,simple,it is FAST,when will you learn,dont listen to all these lying trainers and jockeys bull**it.
I cant see how i was 4 seconds out,but there you go,you cant believe any of these guys,i will time it again later though. Whatever it was in the first,its bloody quick out there |
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fater than any champion hurdle since Istabraq i reckon
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3.51.7 for the ARKLE
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They are starting these races appallingly against the Rules at a full gallop.
This is one reason for the faster times. |
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WIZARD,CONJURE YOURSELF UP A FEW BRAIN CELLS AND STOP TALKING SH*TE
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all i am saying, and i think its fair enough, is why would all the trainers and jockeys be wrong. what would be in it for them to say its much slower than it is....it's moronic to suggest a conspiracy.
so, forgive me for taking nicholls and walsh's word over some bloke on a forum, but i reckon it's open to debate |
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ARKLE 3 MINS 51.57 SECONDS,FFS,the standards 3 mins 52 seconds.
How much more evidence do you need. |
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lol 247!!!!
So they will go the same speed from the tapes ata walk than at a full gallop, will they? Go off and abuse yourself rather than other people, I'm sure you've plenty of practice. |
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Well i have to abuse dope heads like you ,because havent got the basic understanding that times tell you the state of the going,irrespective of this sh*t your going on about"running full pace into the tapes".
FFS,you on something?,Hurricane fly was a mile and a quarter listed winner on the flat,FLAT HORSE,Captain chris is not a 2 1/2 miler,it won over 2 miles at kempton ffs,so its obviously got speed,and 2 mile 1 furlong at chel'ham,so its got stamina as well. SPEED AND STAMINA,ooohh ohhh,hold on,yeh thats right,the 2 things you need for an arkle,DOH. |
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There are time records in other sports from standing starts and flying starts. Guess which ones are always faster?
HTH. |
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Anyone time the champion??
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247 lol, i have changed my view about you, you're not a twallophead, that's far too kind, you're a total scroat. utterly clueless, pathetically insulting, one of these little men who feels the need to shout out loud and impugn anyone who has the gall to disagree. clot....
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so what do we think guys regarding the ground based on today's times
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well its obvious they would be wise to keep watering..otherwise there could be dangerously fast ground by thurs and fri. struck me as good ground, complicated by the fact the times were v fast and the jockeys said it was riding dead
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FFS nickf**kface,there can only be one twallophead & scroat on here,now this always annoys me,but im going to do it anyway.
well its obvious they would be wise to keep watering..otherwise there could be dangerously fast ground by thurs and fri. struck me as good ground, complicated by the fact the times were v fast and the jockeys said it was riding dead Now wtf kind of comment is that?,are you completely insane?,its blatantly obvious that someones lying here,and i think ill trust the times. I cant believe that AL FEROF,3 mins 52.1 secs was faster than HURRICANE FLY,3 mins 53.71 secs,carrying only 3 lbs less,and both were faster than binocular last year,and i thought it rode pretty quick then. Bensalem also won in a quicker time than last years winner,by .66 of a second carrying 6lb more,and last years arkle was run in 3 mins 52.2 secs compared to this years 3 min 51.68. So i think we can emphatically say its riding fast,soft ground horses like dunguib and ghizao had no chance. So lets forget all this twaddle about what trainers,jockeys and Simon Claisse say,because they are blatantly lying. |
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Timeform review tonite rate the grount at BEST
Good Or even good to firm As they say ,times indicate that |
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Good job lucky,its fast,so that will be a massive line going through a lot of SOFT going plodders tonight,makes life easier,flats breds is what we want,like hurricane fly.
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flat breds
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http://www.attheraces.com/cheltenham/article.aspx?hlid=515244&lid=news&raceid=&title=Harrington+has+no+ground+concerns&ref=Cheltenham+-+News&nav=&sub=&day=Tue
really weird isnt it, latest story on at the races..... all the jockeys and trainers keep saying its good to soft. i just love this mass conspiracy amongst all jockey and trainers to say its soft of good when really its lightning fast. brilliantly organised conspiracy, i applaud them what a load of old b ollocks |