Well thats ****** up my festival; anyone else?

Tranquil Sea for me, had numerous bets which would have got me £47 grand, done some others now which gets me £45 so still some hope

It's more or less ruined things for myself also. Not completely, but not far off it. I can take a horse getting beat, but this leaves a very bad taste. Only yesterday i was on the phone with my brother, and we were talking about how corrupt British racing is.

If your festival revolved around one horse that was competing in the most competitive champion hurdle for many a year, then you should reassess your betting strategy.

I thought it was the bet of the week, especially ew.

I have been dreaming about tuesday for weeks, they finally know how to ride bino and thats handy then kicking on early.

something not quite right about the way henderson operates. gets this ban for this moonlit path horse. then does a similar thing with binocular (giving him a prohibited substance)

not to mention the whole agean dawn thing (gets injured, then makes an amazing recovery two days later)

its like he operates under the impression that he's above all the normal rules that apply to everyone else.

This horse and connections have now kicked punters in the teeth in 3 different Champion Hurdles for 3 different reasons. Bad horse for punters.

He was the last horse in numerous multiples with winners already in the bag, stood to win several grand.
Yes I know ante post betting comes with risk but to not get to the race this way is what hurts.

Wouldn't normally be so tied into one horse I just felt the price was value after last years performance.
I can still have a good festival; but no other horse can win me anywhere near as much as Bino could have.

I also have a fairy hefty save on Hurricane Fly with Spoilsports (money back if second) which looks good now but its still peanuts compared to what it could have been!

"He was the last horse in numerous multiples with winners already in the bag, stood to win several grand."


Jesus Woodworm. I'm in the exact same boat. He was the last leg of a 4 times for me, expanding over 13 months. I've been thinking about this race for months.

Been talking about this horse and this race for months to anybody that would listen.
Makes me look like a complete muppet to my non-racing friends now!

Had him at 4/1 in a life- changing 5 timer with Penitent (8/1 Lincoln), Special Duty (7/2 1,000 Guineas) and then Big Zeb 5/1 and Imperial Commanver 5/1 as well as a treble with Big Zeb and Imperial Commander. I'm now hoping at least one of those two dosen't win.

Unlucky with your five quid uncle puncle.

Eric can you kindly **** off and stop annoying people. Some of us needed him to run, and most decent people don't take pleasure in other peoples misfortune.

I spend all summer putting him in multiples with odds on flat horses and Workforce for the Arc, I also had him in a nice ew multiple with Bensalem 16s and For Non Stop 14s, I also had him in a bet with lads on all 4 champs from last yr winning again at 200-1.

Yes lots of work to still be done but just Bino alone winning was several grand and anything else a huge bonus.
Getting placed would have helped as also had a large ew double with worforce which is also down the pan!

Sorry to hear that Woodworm. I was lucky and the exact opposite last year when they said he wouldn't run then did.

I'm in the Hurricane fly camp this time but I would still have preferred it had Binocular made it as it's taken so much away from what look like the best Champion Hurdle since the days of Sea Pigeon and co.

What I hate about all this, is a lot of these drugs not performance enhancing they are simple medicines used by doctors to treat humans as well as horses.
At times it seems like the BHA don't have a clue what is what and it's a case of just lets ban everything to be safe.

I don't know the ins and outs of this particular drug but millions of pounds of punters money has just gone awol and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if the drug has no side affects that would have increased the horses chances one way or another.

THATS ASSUMING YOUR OTHERS WILL WIN..BUNCH OF WHINGERS,  GET OVER IT.   JUST HAMMER YOUR OTHER HORSES IN  YOUR GUARANTEED TREBLE ,ACCA. GO AND BACK IT WITH THE GRANDS THAT BINO WOULD HAVE MADE FOR YOU.. INSTEAD OF SPOUTING FANTASY STUFF. GROW A SET OF BALLS ALL YOU  BIG TIME  GAMBLERS..NOT

Have they said what drug was used?
I am a vet, which kinda makes things worse as I can't believe this has happened.

Don't feel too sorry for me; my multiples have paid for themselves already its just the opportunity to win big has gone!

agree with Rondetto's comments about BHA - a scenario where Bino is permitted to take the medication, is fit to run but can't do so because he'll induce a positive test is nonsensical - bad for punters, thei mage of racing and the spectacle of the Champion Hurdle.

AT LEAST YOUR PRAGMATIC WOODWORM

eric_morris
When: 13 Mar 11 13:09
Unlucky with your five quid uncle puncle.

Eric - the 5 timer was actualy only £3 (would still be £20k return)

The treble was £30 if you really want to know

I don't bet in tens of thousands like some people

NEITHER DO I.. POINT IS WHY THE DISSAPOINTMENT WHEN THEIR OTHER CHOICES WILL STILL WIN ACCORDING TO THEIR MINDS,SO HAMMER THESE BETS INSTEAD. THEN THE PAIN WILL EASE.. AS THEY ARE ALL CERTAINTIES.. ARENT THEY

I dont take pleasure in that Graeme, only returning the compliment to uncle puncle who does.

Fair enough Eric. If he's being a pryck and doing it to others then fair enough. It's just a slightly sensitive topic because some of us are skint and have been needing Binocular to run for a long time. I personally need him for a 13 quid 4 timer which would have paid between 3-4 grand. I always anticipate bad luck, but in this manner it's a scunner. I've also invested a lot of time and bets.

I WILL GIVE YOU THE £13

Willie. PMSL.

Mate the way I bet I will have lost more than anyone on this thread, but regained it on others. You need to try to use better methods though I know most dont put in as much effort as me.

I have Eric. The other horse i backed was Hurricane Fly. I just wanted Binocular to take to the race.

GRAEME WHY YOU LAUGH.. IM SERIOUS

Eric - you did this with all the people that backed Starluck as well.

I assume your reference to me doing it is about Captain Chris - even though I have agreed on various of your threads they should go for the Arkle. It was just your never ending slagging off of Hobbs etc when there were always two possible options for him that became tiring - so I teased you about backing him for the wrong race. With Binocular nobody had that risk, they backed him for the race he was always going for and have been scuppered by events out of their control.

THATS THE WORLD OF GAMBLING IM AFRAID.. BEST TO DISCUSS THIS TOPIC AFTER THE MEETING AND THEN YOU ALL CAN BLEAT AT THE FACTS, ... NOT FICTION.

No the Arkle I said people were putting their bet before the safety of the horse ... and I was right ...as usual.

Paddy Power, William Hill and Stan James announced they will refund all ante-post bets placed on Binocular.

Kind of disappointed not only because he was my biggest bet of the festival but because it has taken a huge amount away from my favourite race of the year. The horse is a star and that's why I like racing. It's not his fault his connections piss about with him sending him half fit to certain races. I have been looking forward to seeing him again since last years festival. Yes we will have a new champion but it doesn't seem right that binocular can't defend his crown and on tuesday will be just at home in his box. I will admit that justice has maybe been done a bit because last year I was one of the lucky ones that backed him at a huge price on here during the will he wont he run fiasco. I have certainly lost a load before I've started now tho.

Hills just paid me over 600 quid for the first 3 wins of a 4 timer that needed Binocular. FFS i didn't expect that.

I've no money on Binocular and it's helped by antepost bets no end, however it's certainly detracted from what was set to be an intriguing race. It'll still be a good one, but there's going to be THAT question mark over whatever wins.

^ Nice One - presumably Binocular was nrnb or have they just been very generous (which I find hard to believe from any of the big bookies)?

They have just been generous puncle. I placed the bet 13 months ago.

Probably an error then and they will ask for it back tomorrow - withdraw it sharpish

My bets were with B365 - don't suppose they will feel so generous

Puncle any luck with B365 ?

Hes too busy counting the cash i bet

Was there any news of this allergy a few weeks back??? Why wasn't he open about this...

Just bet him to win at Aintree and Punchestown, money back, problem sorted.

Shame for the race, but least it saves him being embarrassed by Menorah and The Fly.

Roll on Aintree!

I've had my bet refunded from b365, fair play to them I was resigned myself for a loss. Banked the refund and will spend a bit of time looking for the winner.

I cant keep away from khyber kim. Surely 12/1 BOG, NRNB is a cracking price given the run last year? Will go off single digits surely? Concerned over the run lto, thoughts?