shot from the hip

Backed this for supreme at 40s before his first run.  I wasnt too disheartened with that, as EOG said he was even more unfit than he thought, plus the form got franked yesterday. Also been nibbling at massive odds on here.  In his stable tour he compared him to his last winner of the supreme (name escapes me), altho i suppose its not unthinkable he would go neptune.  I thought he did it well enough today, was a bit sloppy at times, but the dawdle of a pace wouldnt have helped.

Back In Front [;)]

Did it well today, form suggests wants soft but not so sure that has been his problem when faced with it so could be an interesting punt. A fast run Surpeme would perhaps suit him as he can be a bit keen.

Had lost the Champion bumper after 3 furlongs! Pulled way to hard. Needs to settle. Would be slightly concerned the occasion might get him a bit buzzed up again.
All that said, a good price if he does settle!

Yeh,thats my take on it.Settled ok yesterday,maybe the hurdles makes the difference?
Really think he may just have some class about him.

Looks like Backspin will be JP's for the Neptune also.

Soft ground is a must for this horse. A lovely individual but i could not see him winning any Grade 1 championship races on anything but soft.

certainly his form suggests that,hopefully there will be enough juice in the ground for him.

I think he is worth a go on better ground as there were valid excuses for his 2 disappointing runs on them, and it may just be a coincidence that his 2 wins came on soft.  Also, EOG has never mentioned any ground dependencies in any comments I have heard.

Yes, I put Shot From the Hip in one of my Ten To Follow lines. I remember Edward O'Grady saying the horse reminds him of Back In Frontand we all know how easily that horse won the Supreme Novices Hurdle. I am certain Shot From The Hip will be aimed towards the Supreme Novices Hurdle, whether he's good enough I am not sure but he's worth a small E/W punt at the current prices available. I am a big Zaidpour fan but I have this picture of Cue Card coming there cruising all over the whole field. His last run was better than it may have first looked. Also, Colin Tizzard said he didn't have the horse 100% right for that day.

I've him backed at 110 for the neptune.

CVByrne - that is a cracking price if he goes for it. I just got a feeling the horse is fairly explosive and would want a strongly run 2 miles. You can get a decent price for the Supreme so maybe worth a little on thatr race too? You just want a run at this stage though to be honest, like with most horses we have all backed.

I think he needs further and will avoid cue card and Zaidpour.

I've a few dabbles at big prices for the neptune. Oscars Well being another one. I don't think bishopsfurz will go as he has no respect for hurdles and it may be best holding him for chasing next season.

Open race this

I have a feeling that Court In Motion is a decent horse and will run a big race in the Albert Bartlett if it came up soft like it was last year when that race was run. My two biggest bets in March are/will be Big Bucks (World Hurdle) and Time For Rupert (RSA Chase).

seem to remember emma lavelle and jack doyle marking this as their definite one to follow at the start of the season, should have a massive chance imo

SFTH better go supreme!!!

What else does McManus have for the Supreme? Backspin surely the Neptune horse so the others will fit round that perhaps.

CVByrne 07 Jan 11 14:35
"Well he has stayed on well in his last two races on soft/heavy over 19f and 18f.

He probably doesn't have the speed for the supreme and the presence of cue card and Zaidpour would also deter from the supreme."

Bit of a pointless argument between our pockets I think CV as we r both on 3 figure odds for the different races, I have just rewatched his bumper wins, and he appears to quicken away nicely in the second of them.  I think his problem has been settling, and the quick pace of the supreme would be perfect.

Cheers albion.

Yeah cheers bird brain.

lol - muppet!

I have mayweather blocked, were you replying to his drivel or me? I was thanking you for copying my post into the correct thread. I advise blocking  mayweather.

lol - CVByrne is a muppet. You can block me if you want but I own this forum now so it makes no difference. I am still on here and the king of it etc etc.

CVByrne is a complete wally!

I was upset at Mayweather calling me a nasty name CV. no probs re: pasting ur comment in.

Who is this mayweather clown, or who was he?

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lol - CVByrne is a muppet. You can block me if you want but I own this forum now so it makes no difference. I am still on here and the king of it etc etc.

CVByrne is a complete wally!


What a fkn sad person you must be, grow up you ****!

..but I own this forum...

Idiot!

lol - Downallstar - you are a muppet! Shut up bird brain! lol

What age are you?
Were you ever dropped on your head?
Or are you just a complete spastic?

das for the love of god don't converse with him. He signed up to betfair because of nicholls blog. So you will find it as a surprise he has backed the following favourites

Ghizao, Master minded, big bucks,  Brampour. Then he's backed the favourites in the other races too, time for rupert, hurricane fly etc...

He's so inbred he cannot string a   coherent sentence together. Without doubt the most brainless teenager ever to use a computer.

Please forum block so I don't gave to read replies to his moronic posts.

Cv - I get bored and love this sh.t
I just pmsl @ his Triumph Hurdle thread, its like Claudia all over again.

Far worse then claudia mate. This dude believes that every horse he's backed is unbeatable.  Clearly ignoring the fact that he'll like the highest fool ever when most of them don't win.

also spastic, haven't heard that word in ages. Perfectly fitting for this inbred. He is indeed a spastic.

dunno what would be funnier, the horse winning or losing 2mw?

i just entered this thread expecting some more comments re Shot fron the hip,and guess what??
why do i bother???

fyi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

Bud  spend more time on the other site mate.

i do mate,but i started this thread,and am interested in peoples opinions on this one.Came in from work seeing a load of new posts,and find Mayweather has got you and Down at it,not one post on SFTH!!

Budd this place is a fkn joke - I came on here and cleared that annoying little prick out of here.
It may take a few posts in poor taste but hey it serves its purpose.
But ye lot on here seen happy with the likes of Mayweather, so I'll leave ye to him.

i have blocked him mate,far from happy with the idiot.

Have backed him for the Neptune myself.

As have I at 110/1 so I'm very interested in his next run. Hopefully it's over 2m4f

got him in both novices,but aint got anything else in the Neptune,so i would be quiet happy to see him in that,and i really think he will run in it if he does run at Chelt.

Agree

albion dan...glad someone looked at the link

as for shot from the hip he looked all over a chaser imo when he went down/came back in for the bumper at cheltenham so whatever he manages this year im seeing as a bonus as over fences i suspect he could be quite special.

was a comfortable win lto and sicialian secret/endless intrigue are both decent types,his next run will tell us lots more,for my money its just a good thing magnier isnt riding him now as there a re shall we say plenty better jockeys available and he didnt do the horse any favours in the cheltenham bumper.

should hopefully find out a lot more on Sunday!!

Did I read right he is entered in the Albert Bartlett as well??

Yeah he is. Very, very unlikely to go for that though. Just a keeping his options open thing.

But the fact he was even entered in it, says the Neptune is the most likely imo.

hope you right ccm

me too mate!

WATCH OUT for the new babies in the yard too.....
Rigidity and (of obvious interest) Cash And Go [;)]

Are you involved with him too?!

Best of luck to them (and 'Santry' too )

Would love him in the Neptune, I'm on at 110's

CAN WE PLEASE STFU ABOUT THE NEPTUNE PLEASE!!!

anyone heard anymore on this one??
see he is now around 40 on here for supreme and Albert bartlett and double that for neptune!!
grateful for any news
cheers

Was supposed to run on Sunday, should still run in the rearranged race on Saturday at Leopardstown. Few in that race are neptune bound, Oscars Well, Old McDonald. I think Shot From the Hip is more likely to go for the Neptune if heading over. But who knows or sure really.

Just had a bit on Old mcdonald for the AB!!

CV,how sure you about SFTH mate,as he is out to 80 on here.
If he is more likely,have to have another go.
Cant work out why the 2m and 3m race are half the price,weird.

60 now for neptune,just had a bit on at 65.

Could be more the level of competition in the neptune. I don't know I haven't heard anything. I'd  sit tight until after he runs on sat.

As for Old Macdonald my friends uncle owns and trains him, he really hasn't decided is he goes to chelts, he said the  doilette would help decide. I think the AB would be the race for him though. Glynn says he's the best horse he'll ever have.

Considering we're all on becauseicouldntsee for the  national it's worth taking note.

Anyway news on shot will come this weekend.

Thanks mate,interesting about old mac,they obviously think a lot of him.

This weekend is certainly going to be pretty crucial as far as plans for Chelt are concerned.
Hows the weather looking mate?

Clear blue skies outside. Bit of reason coming tonight though. It'll be soft ground on sat at least.

Reason? Haha, rain. Bit of rain coming.

snow,rain,this seasons been a right nightmare.
Really need this meeting to go ahead.
Thanks CV.

Will YOUR baby win today ? (Piv. Rock in the forecast)

hopefully nice run today from SFTH,and then decision will be made on his target,gut feeling is the neptune,hope so!!

traded out on most of neptune so hoping goes for supreme. think could be todays big winner at leopardstown

Thoughts on todays run? I think he travelled up quite nicely before tiring badly. Drop back to 2m, and better ground and he could still be a player in the supreme?!

my feeling is they may well step him up to the AB over 3m.His breeding suggests that he could need further.
yes He did not get home,but maybe that was due to going quicker during the race,and the winner is bl00dy good
by the looks of it!!
He travelled well but lacked pace at the business end,gut feeling after watching that is he is a stayer.
If ground came up really soft then Neptune could be the race for him,decent ground i think now it will be AB.

Yep travelled well Dan. Looks like the drop back to 2m would suit. Not sure he wants good ground though.

hope your 2's take on it is right,backed him in Supreme as well as Neptune.

should i go in for the AB,in case i am right??

antepost betting eh!!

Alot will depend on the rest of JP's runners, but having backed him in the Neptune myself, I was a bit disappointed.

I think I'd say the Supreme looks the best race after that.

Agree Supreme if anything, was impressed with the way he moved up to challenge. Reckon he was left a little short by his trainer myself, hence the way he ran, wasn't on course to back that up though. Still think the jury is out on the ground, needs to be given a proper chance to show that he doesn't go on it. Definitely Supreme though if they are worried about the ground.

The opposite Ben. Had him spot on for last weekend, and if anything did a bit much imo.

Not so sure, he was talking about the Supreme before he made his debut over hurdles. Given the owner obviously likes to target the festival I feel he must have left something off. If you compare his hurdles debut to this run they were quite similar.

Oh definitely. Sure he wont be at his peak until the middle of March. But think he may have run better last weekend than this. The rearranged fixtures must be really hard for trainers to deal with.

At the end of the day, I'd trust EOG to have him spot on for the main event

Yeah it's not been easy for them this winter, have to run in them though to get them spot on for the main event!

Yep! I think antepost betting has been harder than ever as a result though. I think there will be alot of horses we havent seen the best of this season, who could come right at the Festival. Alot more questions marks and more of the unknown than previous years.

As if it wasnt hard enough already

Certainly is, this new novice race is causing me all sorts of headaches too. Like Noble Prince for the Arkle but his owner's Dad owns Realt Dubh so they are going to take in the new race instead (which may suit more but I think he'd beat RD in the Arkle given the ground). Have now come round to Wishful Thinking for the new race but will they go for the RSA because of Captain Chris (and prestige) even though he hasn't really looked a 3 miler! Impossible to second guess connections

Yeah I've done a few quid on Noble prince for the Arkle. Was my main AP bet Think its the perfect race for him.

Had to get involved for the new race now and 8/1 seems decent enough.

I'm holding out for McManus coming in with a bid, think that's the only chance we've got

Ha ha! Never thought of that. Not sure Sharkey needs the money

Just been looking back at last years bumper ...given all the pre race hype Shot from the Hip was a huge disappointment ( as were the majority of the Irish talking horses to be fair) looks to have grown up a bit and provided he behaves himself could go well this year.
Anyone know what has happened to Frawley (3rd behind Al Ferof and Cue Card) in the bumper or what the plans are for Tavern Times who I really liked last year.

See him entered in the Beginners Chase over 2m1f in Fairyhouse on Sun.