Franklino 14/1 Triumph - WTF

Layers dream this race, how many favs were there last year? How many unraced Henderson horses were smashed into esp in Jan/Feb?

Exactly. every novice he runs at Newbuty will be touted as the next big thing

Should be 14/1 to run!!!

Heard he outgalloped a cheetah last friday, use this as you wish

thats the beauty of the exchanges ,u can always lay them if u think theres value....

wish I had the cash to tie up

fft pmsl ydc

cant beat empire levant . apparently hes the slickest thing over a hurdle nicholls has seen ever in a novice

And so here it starts.

Let's just hope all horses stay sound and we can find out their true ability.

Wasn't there similar comments made last yr re sang bleu?!

no sang bleu ws already consuidered a chaser. and dont be writing off sang bleu thats for sure

im not bull sh itting though ive heard comments thats hes absolutely awesome jumper. i heard he can run quite fast aswell

Let's hope he is good.

This is a great time of year. Every horse is a potential champion and no bubbles have been burst!

for every new star 101 bubbles burst. Still wont beat the greatest lay off all time. When that beast whose name escapes me went 3-1 to win the National on the day. Double something or other fro mmemory.

Double silk?

no mate he was the hunter

double thriller, was never 3-1 on here surely!

pre betfair to be fair

Dead Loss how is Franklino? Where is he likely to be running first?

He will be out in the next 10 days or so. Trouble is that with this dry spell a lot of horses are missing intended engagements due to the unsuitable fast ground.

Hopefully get some rain over the weekend and into next week.

I was hoping to see him at Wincanton but I guess the ground was too firm. I look forward to seeing him in the next 10 days!

Going to Aintree

Entered for Aintree on SUnday for Frankie.

Fingers crossed they get some rain and both Mille Chief and Franklino will run (injury permitting)

I hope you are already on Deadloss ?.

Can't help but think your openness doesn't do you any favours when it comes to backing your horses !.

Havent had a penny on him. Before Walkons first run at Huntingdon Id backed him at 100+! I wanted 33/1 on Franklino and having had no chance of get it will just let the lemmings help themselves.

I havent said much about him and think it will continue now. The forum isnt the same place it was when we were discussing Zaynar v Walkon from December!

Choc didnt do anyone any favours making it his charity bet!

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ive had a bit more on empire levant in last couple of days . absolute monster accoding to dan skelton

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master minded whats funny?

It's complete madness to have an antepost bet on the Triumph this early."Fool's and their money".

just @ d skelton calling him a monster. i remember the same vibes re sang bleu last year. im not saying either of them are not bad horses and tbf hes trading at a reasonable price if you think hes a good thing.

Don't get him started on Sang Bleu MM

o im past sang bleu now im bored of that horse its all baout royal charm for now

10 declared

Pena Dorada (IRE)
Almutaham (USA)
Escape Artist
Franklino (FR)
Ibn Hiyyan (USA)
Mason Hindmarsh
Master Performer (USA)
Prince of Vasa (IRE)
Stags Leap (IRE) (Visor)
Antoella (IRE)

Good luck Deadloss - scary to think he'll be a single figure price if he wins nicely today

hope goes well today. good luck

14s the Triumph without running is only rivalled by 10s Picture Editor the Derby as the worst antepost value around at the moment. Good luck though hope he turns out v good.

and I mean value to win the Triumph without having a run as he will shorten again if he wins today.

wow. impressive.....

if you're on at 14s good work .

I presume the last 2 posts were meant for the Cue Card thread

Sarcasm, CCM...

Is the lowest form of wit FFT

Indeed

Same type of thing with According last year, think that went as short at 7/1 before running a race, when he was duly slammed

Triumph is never an antepost race imo

Agree entirely. Got caught in the According hype last year and had a bit on at 20's. Made the decision I will never bet AP in this race again.

Never really been a race that's got my juices going tbh.

Too many talking horses for me

How anyone can be getting involved in this race b4 xmas is mad!!!

Enjoyed the fact that bookies have slashed the odds on A Media Luz because Franklino disappointed even though she is yet to be seen in a hurdle race , Ante post on this race at this time of year is, as Stevo says, madness.

Never have a decent bet on this race antepost as it is a lottery until closer to the time when taking 4s about something with v good form still doesnt appeal much in the size of field of still unexposed animals.

Oh well.

At least he is back in one piece and sound.

Fair to say a flat campaign deadloss?

sam winner seriously impressive. not as good as empire levant though

2 hoss rcae lookin at the bettin tomorro, this fella has to win really to be considered for Chelters havin hurdles experience over the 2nd fav

Based on the hype, and asked Deadloss for a king one to follow a couple of month ago and he said Franklino so must have shown a lot at home, have had a good sized bet on him to win today and a few quid on him for the triumph, dunno what went wrong first time out but expect him to be a lot better today

evens today with a nicholls unknown and a smith flat 100 rated horse. hed want to step up

I missed the race but seen he has finished in forst 3 .. what happened

Oh well dunno what's happened on the track given reports of his homework but safe to say triumph is over for him.

* has not

As stated earlier 14/1 to show up,how many of these early touted Triumph horses fail to deliver?
A very high percentage,as i mentioned as well madness getting involved in this race this side of xmas. Sam Winner was impressive on Saturday, but not sure of animals behind it? Also way too short at 7/1 think rather take chance on Hurricane Fly turning up at same price?

Sam Winner the only imprssive 3yo so far this season. Some useful previous winners 30 lengths and more behind. P. Nicholls still might have a better one at home though.

That was an awful showing today, certainly thought the people taking 20/1 were mad- but certainly wouldnt have wanted deadloss to end up with this hound.

well people who back horses based on its trainer raving can have nobody to blame. this lad wont et a sniff of cheltenham air

King is becoming known for talking up these average beasts, soon enough nobody will take any notice of his guff.

He has got this one badly wrong. On todays evidence (based on audio commentary admittedly) this thing is worth about 110. Not your usual Triumph winner.

There must be something wrong with it but it is on all known evidence , very moderate.

Could be interesting for Fred Winter if he can find out what the problem is but you just do get these talking horses.