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Report Win only - Sp only May 27, 2009 7:20 AM BST
it does, system is to watch others do there money and eat and drink for free
Report premier fantasy May 27, 2009 9:29 AM BST
it is possible but the casino won't let you.

Take Roulette for instance if you have a big enough bank you can put money on the same colour every time doubling the bet if it does not come up. For this to work you need to find an online room with no max spot bet.
$1, $2, $4, $8, $16, $32, $64, $128 etc. and every time it lands on your colour you will be boosting your bank by $1 and then you start again with a $1 bet.
Report jonisonvespa May 27, 2009 10:34 AM BST
im interested
Report YOULITTLEBOTTY May 27, 2009 3:25 PM BST
Tell us more.
Report secong coming. May 27, 2009 8:07 PM BST
sounds interesting this double up stuff
1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048,4096
surely 13 in a row against cant happen?
yes a bank of 8K will see you just keep raking in the $1 time after time.....especially as these long runs are just myths
think i might give it a go....no sweat on spin 13 having 4 or 8K on to win $1.....how easy would that be?
Report curious-cat May 27, 2009 11:26 PM BST
stake

1,1,2,3,5,8,13 etc
Report secong coming. May 27, 2009 11:52 PM BST
i'm getting excited....now winning $17....worst run was 6 reds when on black...but the great system got me out and won another $1...why didnt i think of that before
Report tommyek May 28, 2009 9:57 AM BST
congradulation u are sure very near to busted..
Report Journeyman May 28, 2009 9:32 PM BST
premier fantasy 27 May 10:29
it is possible but the casino won't let you.

Take Roulette for instance if you have a big enough bank you can put money on the same colour every time doubling the bet if it does not come up. For this to work you need to find an online room with no max spot bet.
$1, $2, $4, $8, $16, $32, $64, $128 etc. and every time it lands on your colour you will be boosting your bank by $1 and then you start again with a $1 bet.


This is probably a fishing expedition.

There is a slight but horrific possibility that you're serious however so here we go for the 2333433th time

The system described is the martingale system, the worst way to play roulette ever invented.
Which is saying something...
Report YOULITTLEBOTTY May 28, 2009 9:48 PM BST
Probably a fishing expedition ?
Report secong coming. May 28, 2009 10:17 PM BST
reeled in a few there... :^0
Report YOULITTLEBOTTY May 28, 2009 11:48 PM BST
Gonna throw them back in to live another day I hope ?
Report Journeyman May 29, 2009 12:43 PM BST
Journeyman 28 May 22:32
premier fantasy 27 May 10:29
This is probably a fishing expedition.


What part of that do you not understand, 'secong coming'?
You worthless, dribbling simpleton.
Report premier fantasy May 29, 2009 12:45 PM BST
:D whats going on here then :D
Report my opinion May 30, 2009 12:51 PM BST
very good sytem do have to say tho the other day at star city casino 10 blacks came up in a row on a real roulette table but you would have to be unlucky to get hit by that the truth be told if you had a huge bank and unlimited table you cant loose at roulette.
Report freddiewilliams May 30, 2009 1:51 PM BST
seen 4 29s in a row the other day
Report Jose_Mourinho May 30, 2009 4:36 PM BST
premier fantasy 27 May 10:29
it is possible but the casino won't let you.

Take Roulette for instance if you have a big enough bank you can put money on the same colour every time doubling the bet if it does not come up. For this to work you need to find an online room with no max spot bet.
$1, $2, $4, $8, $16, $32, $64, $128 etc. and every time it lands on your colour you will be boosting your bank by $1 and then you start again with a $1 bet.




Martingale system, quickest way to bankrupt .
good luck
Report secong coming. June 1, 2009 1:36 AM BST
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Report premier fantasy June 1, 2009 8:29 AM BST
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Report secong coming. June 2, 2009 1:41 AM BST
:0
Report Gentoo June 4, 2009 9:55 PM BST
I have not been on this forum for a long, long time.

It has not changed.
Report secong coming. June 11, 2009 12:49 AM BST
:^0
Report secong coming. June 11, 2009 12:50 AM BST
another system......go around all the poker machines and find any coins in the tray....walk out...FOOLPROOF
Report premier fantasy June 11, 2009 4:12 PM BST
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EASY PEASY with one of these ^^^
Report premier fantasy June 11, 2009 4:13 PM BST
** did not work :^0 :^0 :^0
Report NAVILLUS June 11, 2009 4:24 PM BST
using the fiboucci staking, follow the ball on roulette..i.e. after black next bet on black, if red next bet on red so if as above there were 10 blacks you would be winning on all of them...just google fiboucci system only use on real roulette table.not cyberspace...it works...
Report YOULITTLEBOTTY June 11, 2009 7:56 PM BST
Sure it does.
That's why casinos don't make any money.
Logical.
Report barnzy001 August 9, 2009 5:39 PM BST
the problem is alot of online casino dont tell you there max bet i tried this system and yeah it does work to a certain exstent but once i was doubled all the way from £1 to 300 odd then when my bet didnt come it started me back at £1 i couldnt double even though i had enough in the bank so do this but set a limit
Report AMADEUS MOZART August 10, 2009 11:05 AM BST
why does JOURNEYMAN sat the martingale system is the worst system there is?
i thought no system won and every system was as bad or good as any other IN ROULETTE.
so says the WIZARDOFODDS
Report Ratbag August 10, 2009 11:27 AM BST
Indeed, for any given stake amount. Martingale pushes higher stakes, hence house edge is, over time, cutting into a larger amount staked compared to many 'systems'.
Report mitchell downie August 10, 2009 1:17 PM BST
test
Report tomhanks August 10, 2009 4:01 PM BST
this is rubbish, i have seen 16 blacks in a row, that would bankrupt anyone
Report THUGGERS August 12, 2009 9:48 PM BST
Ok have a think about this...

What if you had a group of say 10-15 people loaded 10k deep and all walk into a casino. You are going to double up starting from £20 per bet on black or red. If it comes to it and you need extra cash bank (person 2) 2 comes into play. Casinos say about house limits but cannot control the amount of people on busy tables placing large bets. Im sure it would only take a few hours to make £100 each and then go...unless you are greedy. It would be better to do this in a large casino preferably in vegas where you can move to a higher stake table if needed.Or whats wrong with using the machines linked to the real table, load 15 machines? Im certain this is possible, but havent the balls to try it :)
Report secong coming. August 31, 2009 8:23 PM BST
good idea thuggers...might organize a team of 20
Report JUGADOR MEJOR September 1, 2009 11:47 AM BST
Why not use the martingale switch around.
Bet £1 on roulette, if you lose go to baccarat and bet £2, if you lose go to any other evens bet and continue until you win then return to your £1 stake. This might aviod long losing runs.
I have never done this myself, but I once had a dream i was in a casino with hundreds of roulette tables and cash *****betting from one to the other all night until i had won loads.

By the way somebody post the hand on the face.
Report HarryKuntz September 2, 2009 4:07 PM BST
Progressive systems do not work. They may work in the short term but once you have a streak of losses you're screwed. It fact casino's love progressive betters for exactly this reason, it's good for punters to win sometimes, that's what keeps them playing and spending more money in the casino.

The problem is this:-
If your doubling your bet using a progressive system lets say with roulette starting at £1. If you win 10 times in a row, you with make £10. If however you lose 10 times in a row you will lose £1020. That's quite a difference!

This means you would need to win 1021 times before a losing streak of 10 in a row to average a profit, bare in mind that this is 1021 wins and not spins. The required amount of spins would be far higher and a streak of 10 is more than likely within this required amount of spins. Therefore, streaks benefit the casino, streaks are reasonably common, far more common than people realise, that's why you get so many idiots complaining that games are unfair when they lose.

All so bare in mind, this is not a 50 / 50 bet. It's actually 47.5 / 52.5 bet (or 48.75 / 51.25 if half bet is returned on zero) in the casinos favour, this is because of the green zero, which creates the house edge. So you also have more chance of losing each spin than winning it. There is no overcoming the house edge unless you are **ing.

The bottom line is:-

PROGRESSIVE SYSTEMS DO NOT WORK!
Report HarryKuntz September 2, 2009 4:07 PM BST
Progressive systems do not work. They may work in the short term but once you have a streak of losses you're screwed. It fact casino's love progressive betters for exactly this reason, it's good for punters to win sometimes, that's what keeps them playing and spending more money in the casino.

The problem is this:-
If your doubling your bet using a progressive system lets say with roulette starting at £1. If you win 10 times in a row, you with make £10. If however you lose 10 times in a row you will lose £1020. That's quite a difference!

This means you would need to win 1021 times before a losing streak of 10 in a row to average a profit, bare in mind that this is 1021 wins and not spins. The required amount of spins would be far higher and a streak of 10 is more than likely within this required amount of spins. Therefore, streaks benefit the casino, streaks are reasonably common, far more common than people realise, that's why you get so many idiots complaining that games are unfair when they lose.

All so bare in mind, this is not a 50 / 50 bet. It's actually 47.5 / 52.5 bet (or 48.75 / 51.25 if half bet is returned on zero) in the casinos favour, this is because of the green zero, which creates the house edge. So you also have more chance of losing each spin than winning it. There is no overcoming the house edge unless you are **ing.

The bottom line is:-

PROGRESSIVE SYSTEMS DO NOT WORK!
Report HarryKuntz September 2, 2009 4:08 PM BST
sorry for the double post
Report JUGADOR MEJOR September 2, 2009 11:45 PM BST
Sorry HarryK but you should read my post again carefully, as I was being sarcastic.
Report lippy September 4, 2009 9:42 AM BST
I have a great time at chch casino. Always end up ahead.

Go there with my players club vouchers they always sending out , free food and drink , entry to competitions etc.
Report casemoney September 9, 2009 1:45 AM BST
tomhanks 10 Aug 17:01


this is rubbish, i have seen 16 blacks in a row, that would bankrupt anyone




or made them $16
Report secong coming. November 10, 2009 9:19 PM GMT
no ...still doesnt exist
Report horse for course November 11, 2009 6:04 PM GMT
Put £10 on the colour that has just come in if it comes in again then increase by £5. When the colour changes start again. There is no way of winning at roulette but this is the closest ive got after 20 years. The rule is take £100 in and leave once you made £100. So if youre £80 up but your next bet should be £30 because your on a good run then drop down to £20. Dont be greedy accept a loss and stop. Thoughts please
Report secong coming. November 11, 2009 10:03 PM GMT
so overall are you winning?
Report Samuka November 13, 2009 2:52 PM GMT
making over 100 euros day on this system ...use common sense...play on pars...if u dont get par for a long time...play in 1st 12,2nd 12, or 3rd 12 if u dont get them for a long time...dont be greedy,use your head(brain if you got one), and know how to stop to make money...but its not 100 % sure
Report secong coming. November 15, 2009 10:15 PM GMT
samuka are you hfc?
Report secong coming. November 15, 2009 10:17 PM GMT
sorry ignore
Report oddspotter November 25, 2009 10:38 PM GMT
Just played Betfair Zero roulette. After about 6 spins I was £3 up and then I hit 10 blacks in a row losing about £40.
Yes the long streaks are more common than you think and the odds of 10 in a row are about 0.1% (1 in a thousand) and this happenned after abou t2 mins of playing. I've never had more than 7 spins in a row go in my favour. I wonder if the Betfair computer is audited and how do they do it ?
Report big-game-player December 10, 2009 1:38 AM GMT
this doesnt work anyway.. the 0 always works against you doesnt it? makes your bet slightly worse than evens. although i didnt read all of the thread lol

same principle can apply to all odds against favs in horse racing
Report Do wah Diddy December 14, 2009 9:12 PM GMT
WHEN IVE SORTED THE RUBICK CUBE OUT ,I WILL THEN SORT THE ROULETTE WHEEL OUT
Report steeshykapeeshy December 25, 2009 4:30 PM GMT
this is a joke, if you had a bank roll of 8k you wouldnt be coming to a casino and sitting for what would take 2-3hrs to make 30 quid, so while the method is statistically correct with an infinite bankroll, practically, its a waste of time.. take 250 of your 8k and whack on black, if it wins, then go play with your 250 and have fun, if it loses hey you still got 7,750 go home and chill
Report Paulie Walnuts December 26, 2009 2:29 PM GMT
You use your £8000 to win £30, five times a day and then that's you're full time income
Report steeshykapeeshy December 30, 2009 3:56 PM GMT
paulie you are totally walnuts, think about how many spins in a day you would need to do to make 30x5 = 150 quid.. totally unpractical.. and from 8k even a 1pound bet (which you cannot do in a normal casino as you should know on red or black) is 14 straight numbers and kaboom..
Report secong coming. January 19, 2010 11:21 PM GMT
TTT
Report Sank February 5, 2010 6:28 PM GMT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfACCAAafp8

watch and learn !!!
Report The Lanterne Rouge February 19, 2010 3:10 AM GMT
Extract from Darrell's book "How to take a chance". On 18 August 1913, at the Casino in Monte Carlo, black came up a record 26 times in succession. There was a near panicky rush to bet on red, beginning about the time black had come up a phenomenal 15 times. In application of the maturity doctrine, players doubled and tripled their stakes, this doctrine leading them to believe after black came up the 20th time that there was not a chance in a million of another repeat. In the end the unusual run enriched the casino by some millions of francs.

Beware the martingale.
Report Sammy LayThis Jr February 20, 2010 12:33 PM GMT
well done
Report Mr.Smooth March 7, 2010 5:06 PM GMT
Online casinos are the same as FBOTS, they know where your money is placed in advance then land the ball in the worst place. Random number theory is laughable, try it and see how random it is lol :-)
Report secong coming. March 23, 2010 10:34 PM GMT
ttt
Report BIGNOSEDAVES SPROG March 27, 2010 12:58 PM GMT
online wheels are not realllllll, no system will work its programed to win,everyone has there own wheel and are fleeced individually,apart from a tiny percentage that they let win now and then.
Report never play casino March 27, 2010 10:05 PM GMT
today i lost £245. i bet on 27 numbers. 18 came 9 times 1 came 6 times on which i didn't net wager. what do you think this. **s
Report michael777 March 28, 2010 12:12 PM BST
Ya posting everywhere about ya losses, so try reading a few threads ...

Follow the thread in the below, and enough comprehensive answers will be there for you ...

Why you should never put a coin in the bookies roulette machines
Mr.Smooth

Report Stretch Armstrong April 1, 2010 2:24 PM BST
good-luck
Report B.F Skinner April 8, 2010 8:59 PM BST
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Report B.F Skinner April 8, 2010 9:00 PM BST
and so it goes on
Report never play casino April 9, 2010 12:03 PM BST
dont bet on the same colour. double up on the previous colour which came. ex., you bet on red but black came. next time double up on black. if red comes next doubleup on red and so on
Report Kingpin26 April 21, 2010 10:14 PM BST
What about taking a progressive system and implementing it ina game such as black jack, where the chances of losing so many in a row are a lot less. Start with a £1 stake and if u lose £2 and so on.

What are the flaws in this? you would be very, very unlucky to lose 10 hands of blackjack in a row.
Report ror April 21, 2010 10:50 PM BST
chatname: your flaw is that either

a) your chances aren't a lot less
or
b) The system doesn't pay out enough to cover your losses (i.e. they give you less than evens).

One of those statements must be true or you'd be getting evens on a 'better than evens' punt. In which case you could make money long run just betting level stakes.
Report secong coming. June 23, 2010 12:21 AM BST
i lose 10 hands in a row at blackjack often.....
Report French Professor July 9, 2010 9:49 AM BST
My record is 27 losing blackjack hands in a row -- any higher offers?
Report Heeeere's Johnny July 21, 2010 12:19 PM BST
If anyone really wants to Martingale, try this variant.  It works as well as "classic" Martingale (in as much as it doesn't work at all) but it does address the issue of needing and risking a large bankroll and hence reduces the likelihood of hitting the house limit.

Rather than betting on even-money options where Martingale requires you to double-up with every loss, bet on single numbers instead.  You only need to increase your bet once for every 35 losses and even then only by one unit.

e.g. Betting $1 on a single number will yield a loss of $35 after 35 losing spins, requiring the stake to increase to $2 in order to recoup the losses.  70 losing spins will require the stake to increase to $3, 105 losing spins is $4, etc.
Report mindtrapper July 27, 2010 8:02 AM BST
Heeeere's Johnny - your staking plan is wrong. If on the 69th spin you win you will get $70 back but would have bet $35 for the 1st 35 spins and $68 for the next 34 spins = $103 in total. loss $33.
Report Heeeere's Johnny August 3, 2010 7:42 PM BST
Yep, $2 should read $3 and so on.  My point really was that its a slower financial progression than classic Martingale.  None of these things work anyway so its all a bit redundant really.
Report secong coming. July 6, 2011 1:21 AM BST
what a joke this place has become
Report Storm Alert July 9, 2011 1:40 PM BST
I believe the Guiness Book of records, world record for red consecutively coming up is 27, so that would be £268,435,455 required to make £1 on that streak.

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Report mikenz July 11, 2011 10:01 PM BST
The best foolproof system is.......dont go there.
Report johan75 February 15, 2012 7:00 AM GMT
Very nice post and your discussions i learnt a lot from your forum.......
Report badbeat5454656 July 19, 2012 3:02 AM BST
If your playing online just rub your screen and say "cmon baby make me rich" over and over again then bet on 17 rub the screen faster and it will come in
Report JUGADOR MEJOR January 29, 2013 8:22 AM GMT
Using the Martingale system is sheer stupidity, but if you do feel stupid don't, repeat don't stick to one colour F F S. I once toyed with randomising my outside bets using a die for every spin. 1 = 1 to 18 2 = ODD 3 = Red 4 = Black 5 = EVEN 6 = 19 to 36. If the die lands on it's edge put the maximum bet on ZERO :) You can't lose
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