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No bookies have priced this up yet! but will be joshuas first proper test..Both will beat their next opponents within 2 rounds to hype this up even more.
Hope whyte can test the pride of watfords chin here lol
Any odds predictions? joshua 1/4? whyte 4/1?
Hope whyte can test the pride of watfords chin here lol
Any odds predictions? joshua 1/4? whyte 4/1?
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I'd back Bruno to smash Joshua. He didn't have a great chin but he was hurt by a lot better than Dillian Whyte.
DW's a tough dude
took a barrage in R1
AJ another flat track bully
another great white hope up in smoke
took a barrage in R1
AJ another flat track bully
another great white hope up in smoke
cannot see Joshua troubling Fury.
Unless he can get to him in the first couple of rounds.
Unless he can get to him in the first couple of rounds.
Dec 12, 2015 -- 11:15PM, Geesyerdosh wrote:
This is now like 2 drunks fighting over a can
LOL....Like you said m8 Bruno in with THE best and gave good account. To far often over here we call a "great"
All the Joshua lovers will need to wake up tonight. The lad would have NO chance in with big Fury
Fury must be laughing. You can imagine Klitschko having field day with these 2
fairness Joshua has tidied up last 2 rounds and looks much better.
He's fighting Dillian Whyte? We thought less at the time of Bruno losing to Tyson, Lewis and Witherspoon yet our great British hope is going life and death with a bang average domestic operator. ON PPV!!!!
It's madness.
It's madness.
Dec 12, 2015 -- 11:21PM, Mike-lfc wrote:
"can't wait for AJ to knock out Fury"... alright
What planet are u on? The fight will probably never happen but AJ wouldn't get near Fury who would out jab him all nite
JW's the better boxer but has been exposed as less than invincible if nothing else
Dec 12, 2015 -- 11:24PM, wisewords wrote:
your boy AJ will have no chance against Fury
Dec 12, 2015 -- 11:24PM, Kriskin wrote:
Dec 12, 2015 -- 11:21PM, Mike-lfc wrote:"can't wait for AJ to knock out Fury"... alrightWhat planet are u on? The fight will probably never happen but AJ wouldn't get near Fury who would out jab him all nite
i was quoting what people said on twitter ect. Fury would beat these too so easily
JW's fanbase will go missing after this....they only liked him because he's knocked out a few mugs in 1 or 2 rounds.
seaking it's all down to the fraud David Haye or TYSON FURY WILL RULE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME 
They were slagging off him a minute ago now they lauding him up lol
I'm just waiting for Adam Smith to describe that as 'Britain's Rumble In The Jungle"
think whyte has shown that AJ has plenty of floors though, and a bit of a suspect chin.
The crowd there honestly believe he's knocked out Larry Holmes or Ken Norton 
Actually Destroyed him in the End ,Bring on TYSON imo
Neither fighter will have trouble getting opponents after that anyway!
Dec 12, 2015 -- 11:30PM, casemoney wrote:
Actually Destroyed him in the End ,Bring on TYSON imo
Mike maybe
the guy's a hugely powerful dude who can defo bang
but don't see him being undefeated
but don't see him being undefeated
All in all a good card tonight with some cracking fights.
Dec 12, 2015 -- 11:30PM, wisewords wrote:
seaking, DO YOU STILL BELIEVE IN YOUR BOY?
fury cant take that powa!
He is a very likeable guy AJ. That chin is a huge worry though.
even buffers head gone we all the hype got this prick is so sickly
He showed a bit of the bad boy in him at the end there, something White was trying to portray about him in the build up , have a watch how he shrugged the ref off at the end , it wasnt pretty , disrespectful imo
He must really dislike Whyte to give him zero credit there, whyte done himself proud imo.
why would it be so bad for David Haye if Joshua had lost?
pretty sure paulie mag is speeding out his tree everytime i see him
thats me done. Another wonderful day of betting for me... £300 down yesterday... £100 or so down today. Im done for a bit.
overtimes to the left of me... gubbings to the right
Enjoyed the fight. Usual crowd on here talking shiite. Joshua will be unhappy with his nights work but will have learned a lot. Which is about where he should be at this point in his pro career. They should be talking about Fury in a couple of years. He needs to continue building and learn from some elementary mistakes tonight. Credit to Whyte though. If his body was as hard as his chin he too could be half decent.
Mike you need to trade/arb. Free money everywhere.
Why gamble when it's there for nothing.
Why gamble when it's there for nothing.
Will josh call to collect a bit of €€€€ on the way home for his old boss
Dec 13, 2015 -- 12:12AM, Eeternaloptimist wrote:
Enjoyed the fight. Usual crowd on here talking shiite. Joshua will be unhappy with his nights work but will have learned a lot. Which is about where he should be at this point in his pro career. They should be talking about Fury in a couple of years. He needs to continue building and learn from some elementary mistakes tonight. Credit to Whyte though. If his body was as hard as his chin he too could be half decent.
The issue with Joshua he's not a youngster. Fury is only 1 yr older. How will he improve to be anyway near Fury when they are around the same age??? I could be wrong but tonight's fight only proved to me that Joshua is not a World beater
And if u listened to the ex Pro's tonite they all agreed that the hype previous is all it was. Joshua looked very ordinary tonite against an average boxer.
he made a lot of mistakes tonight but it will stand to him. he cant just jump into a haye or a fury yet. he needs more fights against decent journeymen before he will be ready for a world class boxer. if he did what he did in round 2-4 against a seasoned world class boxer he would have been knocked out. next time he wont make the same mistake. hes proven tonight he can take a shot so at least thats another big step in his fine career
The issue with Joshua he's not a youngster. Fury is only 1 yr older. How will he improve to be anyway near Fury when they are around the same age??? I could be wrong but tonight's fight only proved to me that Joshua is not a World beater
No personal disrespect to you Kriskin but it's comments like this that betray your clear lack up understanding. An issue may well emerge with Joshua down the line which stops him going all the way as can happen with any fighter on the way up but your comments are ill informed.
Firstly in todays terms as a heavyweight Joshua is indeed a youngster. Although he won Olympic Gold that was on the back of being very late to the sport beginning in his late teens. Fury is steeped in the sport with his dad being an average to fair British level fighter.
Secondly, Fury has been a pro for about seven years. Joshua about two. Fury has had about ten more fights, several of which are at a higher level with far more rounds gaining experience in a variety of settings against different styles.
Thirdly, at the same respective stages of their careers Fury already had the rounds under his belt. When he won his title against Chisora he'd fought about the same number of times as Joshua tonight. The critical difference though is that he'd fought fighters who got him a lot of rounds under his belt. I think in those first 15 or so fights 5 of them if you include the Chisora fight went to points. That's a vast array of professional rounds compared to Joshua who in effect was having his first proper fight tonight.
Fourthly, different fighters develop at different rates. Your pressure fighters like your Frazier's, Dempsey's and Tyson's (Mike) matured early and reached a peak early. Joshua carries a lot of power but this comes on the back of good combination work. He's more in the mould of your Lewis and Wlad type fighters. Guys who had major tribulations in their mid to late 20's and improved enormously under the tutelage of Manny Steward in their early 30's. Joshua has time on his side.
Fifthly, if you think you saw the real Joshua tonight you need to have a think. There's no doubt he got carried away with the intensity of wanting to do a job on Whyte. He got very tense, sloppy and fired far too many bombs early in the fight when he should have been breaking Whyte down with the combinations which we know he can throw. Only when he started to pick his shots did he open Whyte up relatively easily. He must and should learn a great deal just from that one aspect of the fight.
I was telling everybody and anybody who would listen back in 2011 that Fury had all the tools to be our next heavyweight champion. Feel free to check that out on Carlos Monzon's thread on here. There's no doubt Joshua fought a sloppy fight tonight. At least he has the excuse of being overtaken by the emotion of wanting to smash Whyte up. Let's not forget though that Tyson was incredibly lucky to get that decision against John McDermott.
Joshua can and must continue his education. He needs to get in with two or three of the usually durable eastern european fighters, take it down a notch, work on developing his ring craft and in a couple of years he should be ready for a world title fight. Ask me nearer the time and I'll let you know who will win and why.
No personal disrespect to you Kriskin but it's comments like this that betray your clear lack up understanding. An issue may well emerge with Joshua down the line which stops him going all the way as can happen with any fighter on the way up but your comments are ill informed.
Firstly in todays terms as a heavyweight Joshua is indeed a youngster. Although he won Olympic Gold that was on the back of being very late to the sport beginning in his late teens. Fury is steeped in the sport with his dad being an average to fair British level fighter.
Secondly, Fury has been a pro for about seven years. Joshua about two. Fury has had about ten more fights, several of which are at a higher level with far more rounds gaining experience in a variety of settings against different styles.
Thirdly, at the same respective stages of their careers Fury already had the rounds under his belt. When he won his title against Chisora he'd fought about the same number of times as Joshua tonight. The critical difference though is that he'd fought fighters who got him a lot of rounds under his belt. I think in those first 15 or so fights 5 of them if you include the Chisora fight went to points. That's a vast array of professional rounds compared to Joshua who in effect was having his first proper fight tonight.
Fourthly, different fighters develop at different rates. Your pressure fighters like your Frazier's, Dempsey's and Tyson's (Mike) matured early and reached a peak early. Joshua carries a lot of power but this comes on the back of good combination work. He's more in the mould of your Lewis and Wlad type fighters. Guys who had major tribulations in their mid to late 20's and improved enormously under the tutelage of Manny Steward in their early 30's. Joshua has time on his side.
Fifthly, if you think you saw the real Joshua tonight you need to have a think. There's no doubt he got carried away with the intensity of wanting to do a job on Whyte. He got very tense, sloppy and fired far too many bombs early in the fight when he should have been breaking Whyte down with the combinations which we know he can throw. Only when he started to pick his shots did he open Whyte up relatively easily. He must and should learn a great deal just from that one aspect of the fight.
I was telling everybody and anybody who would listen back in 2011 that Fury had all the tools to be our next heavyweight champion. Feel free to check that out on Carlos Monzon's thread on here. There's no doubt Joshua fought a sloppy fight tonight. At least he has the excuse of being overtaken by the emotion of wanting to smash Whyte up. Let's not forget though that Tyson was incredibly lucky to get that decision against John McDermott.
Joshua can and must continue his education. He needs to get in with two or three of the usually durable eastern european fighters, take it down a notch, work on developing his ring craft and in a couple of years he should be ready for a world title fight. Ask me nearer the time and I'll let you know who will win and why.
Just seen the Campbell fight 
Flabbergasted by the forum/in running betting odds.
Flabbergasted by the forum/in running betting odds.
Joshua didn't box as a kid. With his conditioning could well be boxing into his 60s like hopkins.
Would like to see whyte chisora next
Would like to see whyte chisora next
But given his conditioning, his stamina seemed pretty awful. He was pretty much gassed after 2 rounds. This revealed a couple of things. Joshua's fights have been all about explosion so far, but it seems clear at world level he is going to have to slow down, to pace himself. You can't just go in first few rounds and windmill it, because quality opposition will find a way to last those rounds. In other words he will lose some of the shine of what's made him look devastating so far.
I find it laughable Fury is priced up 11/8 outsider to beat Joshua in 2016. Ok the fight never happens in 2016, but seriously? Fury would destroy Joshua right now. Joshua was struggling with White's movement, and White was hardly in great shape. He simply wouldn't land on Fury right now, and be made to look silly all night. Joshua needs to fight a few hard to hit guys on his learning curve, before he even thinks about moving to world level. It's ok looking good knocking out people in the first few rounds, but eventually you will come up against opposition that can last through those rounds.
I find it laughable Fury is priced up 11/8 outsider to beat Joshua in 2016. Ok the fight never happens in 2016, but seriously? Fury would destroy Joshua right now. Joshua was struggling with White's movement, and White was hardly in great shape. He simply wouldn't land on Fury right now, and be made to look silly all night. Joshua needs to fight a few hard to hit guys on his learning curve, before he even thinks about moving to world level. It's ok looking good knocking out people in the first few rounds, but eventually you will come up against opposition that can last through those rounds.
From the evidence last night there's nowt wrong with his stamina. From the fourth round he took over the fight completely and finished Whyte with an explosive combination. His problem was that he went out with the choke out because he became embroiled in the emotional side of the fight. Anybody who fights on adrenaline won't last nearly as long. It's a testament to his conditioning, stamina and ability to adapt that he refilled his reservoir, changed tack and ultimately destroyed Whyte.
At the moment I think it's hard to know too much other than Josha does need more experience. Styles make fights so let's not get too carried away with the Wlad victory. Fury still needs to continue beating other fighters with different styles. Nobody fighting Joshua will have an easy night, especially Fury who isn't a massively destructive puncher.
At the moment I think it's hard to know too much other than Josha does need more experience. Styles make fights so let's not get too carried away with the Wlad victory. Fury still needs to continue beating other fighters with different styles. Nobody fighting Joshua will have an easy night, especially Fury who isn't a massively destructive puncher.
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