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Early price up putting BJS in at 4/5.
Based on competition faced bjs certainly has had the better of it, but i feel that Eubank jr will beat him.
Based on competition faced bjs certainly has had the better of it, but i feel that Eubank jr will beat him.
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Ehhhhhh???i will be all over eubank jr
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I feel Saunders has gone backwards, some fighters are very special and when they get to an age were they should be at their peak, they've peaked, feel this could be the case
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Promoter Frank Warren was left fuming after Chris Eubank Junior missed a media conference to promote his WBO middleweight title eliminator fight with Billy Joe Saunders.
The undefeated pair, both 25, will face off at the ExCel Arena in London on November 29 and much of the build-up to the fight has been dominated by the bad blood between the boxers. Eubank Junior has already missed one conference this year and Warren believes it is down to his father and manager, former world champion Chris Eubank Senior. Billy Joe Saunders maintained his unbeaten career with victory over Emanuel Blandamura in July © PA Photos Enlarge "I can't tell you how angry it makes me," Warren said. "I'm apologising but I feel the ones apologising should be [the Eubanks]. "He agreed to come here and in the last day or so we've had a situation where they will only show up - and I have the text message here - if a £50,000 bond was put into an escrow, as he doesn't trust Bill not to put his hands on Junior. Warren then read aloud the text message from Eubank Senior, which said: "Saunders is on video saying he will slap him my son .I will take him at his word. If he has that money to lose he will think twice about carrying out the threat." Warren added: "I've not had anything like that happen at any of my press conferences. We offered to have four security men here or put a fence down the middle. "Billy has an impeccable record at press conferences and at fights." Saunders, the British, Commonwealth and European middleweight champion, told BBC Sport: "His dad thinks for him. Never would I dream about punching somebody at a press conference. Why would I want to do that when I could do it in the ring?"  |
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does eubank have much of a chance? he's certainly talking like he does.
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Eubank by KO
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Thought Eubank handled himself very well at the press conference. Seems to me that it's Saunders working himself up here. Really looking forward to this fight as there are just so many unknowns.....
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Saunders is probably only ever going to be a European standard fighter, I don't think there is any real improvement left in him. Eubank has not proved anything in the ring yet but the rumours from different trainers and fighters is he is the real deal. You either go with the proven form or the possible potential of Eubank. My personnel view is that Eubank will prevail but at even money its not great value. Its a very interesting fight and I am really looking forward to it.
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are Sky covering this show?
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Boxnation
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eubank should win this easily. Power, timing, footwork, ring generalship and sharpness all go to Eubank. Experience and work output go with the less talented billy joe guy. Both chisd untested. Billy joe even at his bet woudn;t be able to beat Eubank.
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Not a big fan of either but to say Eubank has better foot work is strange(He crosses his feet) Power? You dont hit someone that many times if you hit hard. Very easy to have ring generalship V Complete bums
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Have yet to hear a single person give a legit concrete reason as to why Eubank wins this. Never has a price of a fighter been so low based on rumours and speculation. How any1 can say with any certainty things like "eubank should win this easily" is beyond me. What are we basing this sort of comment on, the 18 fites against total dross opponents or an out of context snippet of sparring vs Froch?? He's a complete mystery as to what level he is operating at, maybe at 5/2+ he'd be a bet but far too much uncertainty about him imo.
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Just subscribed to boxnation, because im a sky customer £12 a month and an £8 charge. If with virgin no charge and only £10 a month.
Opinions..... Why i think Eubank will KO Saunders Saunders has put to much pressure on himself by saying he will retire if he don't KO Eubank by he 5th round and i believe he will make mistakes looking for it and leave himself open. I hope they stay true to there words and we will have a explosive fight, not like the Bellew Cleverly fight they both spoke shlt. I believe the hype around Eubank will show fight night, you can only beat the opponent in front of you and Eubank has won all 18 with 13 KO's and im sure from what we have seen so far he can step up to Saunders level and beyond. |
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You're right in one sense Joe in that it defies all logic that Eubank will win...the difference in experience is ridiculous and we have virtually no barometer on Eubank's talent given the poor standard of his opposition. And yet I find myself a believer on saturday night nevertheless. Maybe I just want him to be the real deal, 'would be great fun to see the rise of another Eubank.
I know the sparring footage with Froch should be taken with a pinch of salt but from the little bit we saw Eubank looked pretty solid...I can't help thinking Billy Joe would have struggled to back Froch up, in fact I cant imagine Billy Joe being much use as a sparring partner for froch at all. It's a cracking fight anyway, someone is going to end up seriously embarrassed with all the mouthing off thats gone on beforehand. I hope Eubank pulls it off. |
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" Saunders has put to much pressure on himself by saying he will retire if he don't KO Eubank by he 5th round and i believe he will make mistakes looking for it and leave himself open "
There is literally zero chance that Saunders is going into the fight with this in mind....not with Jimmy Tibbs in his corner. So again, thats not a valid reason Eubank wins imo. The most amazing thing which the media seem to not be focussing on is that after the 8th rnd Eubank is a 100% unknown quantity. |
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Very little support for Eubank in the 25 expert picks on boxingnewsonline, 20/5 split for BJS. But yet if anything there is still continued support for Eubank in the betting, bizarre r wot.
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Maybe because boxingnewsonline is full of plebs who never bet? for me Eubank at 5/4 is the bet of the year. I look at in horseracing terms, you got a horse Eubank Jr thats been winning by impressive margins but not beating much, (and most these fights he was playing around and trying to get rounds in) and then you got BJS who has beaten average opposition but in workmanlike fashion.
Now in horseracing if you have a well bred horse thats been beating low grade opposition easily that horse would 99% of time be favourite vs a plodder thats been winning but not impressively. If this was a horse race Eubank would be 4-7 maybe even 2-5. |
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I to was taken with the very short video of Eubank sparring Froch, then I watched one of his latest spars with a prospect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CI4NLIwxX8 Not good at all. Laden with mistakes and can not get out the way of a southpaw jab |
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joe9000, eubank has the heavier hands too. although he hasn't got single punch ko power he should still comfortably beat bjs. plus doesnt help bjs gets cut easily too.
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Heavier hands based on what?? He hasn't faced any1 in anyway durable. So we back to the sparring rumours again....I'm not even saying BJS is deffo winning it, just think the odds r way off based on all the concrete proven factors. Like SJ says, watch that spar, makes him look well novicey cos that what he is.
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Plus Eubank Jr has never had to come out of 1st gear in any of his fights to date, even if he fought at the same level against BJS as his last bum opponents it would still be a close fight, but you have to imagine that there are many more gears to this kid.
Add to the fact that trainer Ronnie Davis says Eubank is the real deal, add to the fact that Ronnie Davis is 5 - 0 vs Jimmy Tibbs fighters. |
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If we taking what the fighters are saying at face value, Davis is neither his coach or trainer, only there to apply the Vaseline according to Jnr...
Davis is 4-0 up, with 1 draw, but sure he only there to hold the bucket anyways and stand back while Senior stares downs Jnr between rounds  |
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PierreLaRogue
PierreLaRogue 27 Nov 14 20:38 Joined: 31 Aug 07 | Topic/replies: 1,146 | Blogger: PierreLaRogue's blog Plus Eubank Jr has never had to come out of 1st gear in any of his fights to date, even if he fought at the same level against BJS as his last bum opponents it would still be a close fight, but you have to imagine that there are many more gears to this kid. Add to the fact that trainer Ronnie Davis says Eubank is the real deal, add to the fact that Ronnie Davis is 5 - 0 vs Jimmy Tibbs fighters. Cant have that. British European Commonwealth champion |
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Mitchell Smith comment on Jnr is quality and factually correct - "He’s not even fought at Southern Area level yet"
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I'd like to know the reach of these fighters but cant find it anywhere, ive been watching BJS, he's going to try and keep Eubank off him with his jab, then i watch videos of Eubank he does close the distance very quickly and from range, his uppercuts look tailor made for BJS.
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Chris Eubank Sr believes his son is "the most dangerous fighter on the planet" and has the talent of Sugar Ray Leonard.
"The last person who had this ability was Sugar Ray Leonard," Eubank Sr told BBC Sport. "My son is the most dangerous young man I've ever come across in boxing, the most dangerous fighter on the planet. "I was the benchmark, I was the beacon, I was the one everyone was measured against and I can't even measure him against me. I have never seen anything like him. The great British public has a great journey in front of them over the next 10 years. "Am I putting too much pressure on him by saying he's as talented as Sugar Ray Leonard? "If I don't say it to him, he'll never see it. I have to make him aware that this is what I see. Can he do what I see? I am absolutely certain of that. It's ridiculous the things he can do." |
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no nothing about boxing, was in a hills shop this morning and know the manager well, told me somebody had been in and had 35k on saunders to win at 4/5. rang head office and they took the bet.
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FWIW I think BJS will win easily. I think 10/11 is a cracking price. If i'm going takenotice & listen to someone talk up Eubank, it's not going to be his dad. Eubank has fought nobody decent, BJS has a good pedigree. A lare points victory imo.
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not looked forward to a fight as much as this all year. backed eubank earlier in week hope he lives up to the hype.
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Must win if his dad thinks he's that good.
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His huge hype is of his own team's making...seems talented but don't seem him being a world beater. BJS has been unimpressive in some of his fights, especially as he labors physically. Claims in his last fight he needed to lose over 6lbs in the sauna night before weigh in. Of course everything fixed now as he's taking his training seriously and has a nutritionist.
 If Eubank does win going to be painful listening to more and more of "Team Eubanks" delusional rantings. |
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If you know boxing at all I fail to see how BJS isn't an insane price and a must back tonight, especially now at 2.16. Eubank is completely unproven and nothing points to him beating a more experienced fighter tonight. If Eubank wins then all the credit to him, but the smart money has to be on BJS.
It's all well and good talking a good game, and hyping up a fight. But eventually you have to back up the talk and the hype, tonight is Eubanks chance, but BJS is the more proven fighter. Here's to a great night of boxing. |
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Eubank now fav in places
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BJS think Eubank is all hype and living off his Dad's name.
Eubank doesn't need to take this fight. He could easily fight off his name against lesser opponents and fight for BJS's titles when he moves up to world level. I therefore think the Eubank camp are very confident. BJS is a known quantity so it should be easy for them to judge, whereas BJS is pretty much having to guess. |
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You are assuming confidence equates to intelligent thinking. Originally I thought the incessant nonsense coming from the Eubanks side was pure hype and marketing but I'm starting to believe they are generally deluded to an extreme.
I'm talking Chris Algieri corner type delusional. If Saunders is in good condition and doesn't fade have to feel this ends in an anticlimatic points decision for the more experienced campaigner. |
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I said all along, 5/4 was a great price, hope the smart punters caught on.
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If Eubank Jr has inherited his fathers stamina problems I fear for him, Saunders to win by stoppage around the 8th rnd.
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eubank senior stamina problems?
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Theres a lot of nonsense being spoken on here, how many 12 round fights did Chris Snr fight? and you saying if Chris Snr fought BJS he'd get beaten in 8 rounds?
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