Frampton v Martinez

yes he's a little too short, Kiko was 9/2 outright for a while with StanJames. I nearly had a little play at that price but have held off for now. Need to rewatch a few fights but my instinct tells me it's a tricky fight but one which Frampton should have the ability to win, albeit maybe with a few scares along the way.

The fight wasn't going all Carl's way last time until he caught Kiko with that shot, i wouldn't be lumping on Carl at any of the current prices available for him.

probably on the short side but it's a handpicked one.  Should be far too good for martinez - let's see if they decide to put him anywhere near Rigo after

Hardly handpicked he's the world champion they offered Leo plenty of money but he turned it down. Would you let your fighter near Rigondeaux when he hasnt fought in a world title fight? You want hand picked look no further than the WBA "regular" champ. Bantamweights and fair trade farmers

I'm not knocking them for it - smart move imo.  Easiest fight he could take atm (weighing up risk/reward), world title, and a fight he should win comfortably.  Rigo bit was tonight in cheek - they'd be mad to put him anywhere near him.  Rigo on a completely different level to Frampton, Leo, Quigg etc.

Not ready for Rigo, Leo was offered £500,000 and didnt want to come over and for some strange reason Hearn think Frampton brings nothing to the table V Quigg so isnt entitled to 50-50. Lets think about that why on earth should the man who brings all the fans have less than 50-50 against a so called world champion who was SUPPORT to Murray V Crolla for the WBO intercontenial title. I mean you could fit Quigg s fanbase into a mini bus

I think the Boxnation deal was the main stumbling block to the Quigg fight in the end...it looks further away than ever now though...I think 50-50 split was fair before given than Quigg had the 'belt' and Frampton had the fanbase but Eddie seems to think it's still fair even if Frampton wins the real IBF, not sure that makes much sense really perhaps that's just a negotiating position he cant really believe that surely. There's obviously a big problem between Hearn and Barry M though, let's hope money talks in the end and they can settle their differences, gonna be satisfying when Quigg silences the snipers and leaves Carl on the canvas

Anyone know if Kiko has a rematch clause? Would seem unlikely he'd defend his belt away from home in a voluntary without one? That could delay a Quigg-Frampton showdown even further I suppose.

quigg seems happy to fight nobodies for the next few yrs

think he's far from happy with it mate tbh, does anybody really doubt they tried to get the LSC fight? LSC not interested in fighting anyone of note while the Haymon thing rumbles on it seems.

Quigg's career has stalled pretty badly no doubt but he's plenty young enough to turn it round.

Yes I doubt it mate, As if Hearn is gonna chuck Quigg in with LSC with Frampton round the corner. Not a chance. Since being given the "world title" cos he didnt win it V Salinas(a man beaten by a bloke 15-7 not long ago) look at the durge he's fought. Hearn wouldnt stick his hand in his pocket to get barker home advantage V Geale FFS would have cost next to nothing to get Porter over for Brook and people really think he was gonna pay for Leo and risk the Frampton pot Hearn needs to get a grip Frampton brings the dough Quigg brings tap all

I know I aint gonna convince you mate so not much point debating

Hearn is making a balls up of Quiggs career at present I'll give you that, I do believe they tried to make the LSC fight though, in America obviously not over here, he's talked openly about it enough times, personally I think it's more likely that Haymons games have taken LSC out of the equation than it is Hearn is flat out lying.

Not sure either Barker or Brook will be bemoaning Hearn's promotion of them pair will they? Both hit the jackpot in effect. He did bloody well to get Barker the shot against Geale, the easy route to the title that everyone wanted, never mind where it was held. He then won and cashed out in germany when he wasn't even fit to fight. Happy retirement.

Porter coming over here I just don't understand why people even question that? Porter said many times there was no way he was coming to England, no matter what the purse. And why should he? He was the ****g champion. So what should they have done? Forced him to vacate and fight Ionut Dan for the vacant strap? Screwing up any relationship with GoldenBoy and the british haters would have had a field day sniping at Kell as a fake champion.

So he's gonna put Quigg in a fight where he is outsider and risk losing the Frampton pot? Do you believe that? Not looking to argue just lets be honest why would you risk it? The man doesnt put his hand in his pocket ACD  surely you can see if hes not gonna pay for people like Geale why would he risk Quigg Frampton?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HhNftH9l-k

Listen to him. So much shoite comes out his mouth "I told the Mcguigans you wont get kiko" And why cos unlike Barry he wont dig deep

And as for the old man jesus what a load of tripe. Hearn wasnt willing to bring Romero for Carl after Kiko I. He's a tight ar se. And you can check that on the post fight presser.

"Is Frampton gonna go over and fight for a cuple of hundred thousand pounds? NO!" thats the words of Hearn but Quigg is? So many contridictions

well he put Brook in with Porter as a big outsider didn't he? it would have been easier to land the Khan fight by picking up the vacant strap off Dan? Its a similar situation, both times his fighter needed a big fight because the obvious domestic one had stumbling blocks.

Well Brook had to win the IBF to get close to a Khan fight. If he didnt fight Porter he wouldnt of fought for a vacant would he? That makes no sense. This Quigg aint a one off. Salinas, David Silva(not the City player) Munyai and now bantamweight Jamie Mcdonell victim Jamoye. So he is clerly waiting out for Frampton and a big fight.
He will not stick his hand in his pocket that video tells you that. "You wont get Kiko Martinez" He said no way would he pay Kiko 500K for a Quigg fight you can find that on a I Film interview, why didnt he get Quigg that fight?

Good debate whilst there is no Boxing on though

It is mate, nipping out now will pick this up again later

yeah as I was saying, imo they could have got Brook a shot at the vacant belt by letting Brook-Porter go to purse bids...they would have been easy enough to win and Porter would probably have then vacated, he said there was no way he was coming to England.

That's all by the by though, the point is Quigg-LSC in the states would have been a big fight in itself, there would be no  need to protect Quigg in order to get a big fight with Frampton...they'd already be in a big fight, and one in which defeat wouldn't even be a disaster for a future Quigg-Frampton bout. Hearn has talked plenty about negotiating the LSC fight and the lukewarm interest from their side...if it's all complete bullshit someone from the LSC/Goldenboy camp could easily have called him on it.

I agree he doesn't like putting his hand in his pocket, it's just not their style of promoting (Bringing Bute over for Froch a notable exception), they're accountants not gamblers, but in any case up to now I don't really think it's been to the detriment of any of his fighters. Brook and Barker both won belts on the road, Bellew, Purdy, Rees would all have been smashed wherever the fights were held. Quigg really is the first one to suffer as a result.

I'm sure they would have loved to get the Kiko fight for Quigg but Barry M. has taken a big punt and blown them out of the water. Fair play to him but he himself admitted at the presser they've broke the bank to get him over, something that is easier to do when you've really only got one client and that client has a rabid provinicial fanbase.

Anyway I hope Frampton wins and we'll see what happens then...can't make head nor tail of the rumours myself...one minute you hear Frampton is heading back to Sky, the next that he cant stand Hearn, then Warren throws in a curveball with all this Rigo talk. **** knows whats going on really

Agree mate all the promoters are in it for themselves. 99% sure though this is the last of Frampton's fight deal on BoxNation. Ill be surprised if the fight doesnt happen after Christmas

*If Carl beats Kiko

You going by the way mate?

No mate. Been the last 3 but £400-£600 ringside 175 return flight from Stansted, £150 return flight Cabs £80. With your drinking money £800-£1000 for one night in Belfast. I dont mind paying top dollor but that for me is a lot for one night in Belfast.Will be going Quigg

yep it's a lot of money and hopefully even bigger fights down the line anyway, hope the rain holds off for those that are going

Laddies gone 6/1 Kiko stoppage, 14/1 rounds 7-12. Pretty good prices those I'm going to have a very small interest, thought Carl was looking just a little bit ragged past the half way point last time before he took care of business. Don't really like backing an outcome I'd rather not see but odds seem generous to me.

I wouldnt put anyone off that.He looks a different fighter since last time, maybe that is to do with DR Fuentes I certainly wouldnt back Carl by KO 10-11 I thought he was going to win had him 78-74 at time of stoppage but that was some shot he pulled out. Will probably back Carl via decision

isn't it time somebody asked "what time is the big one?"

entertaining undercard so far, fair play. Two good fights and even the Okane scrap was entertaining in a car park brawl kind of fashion...disgraceful reffing from Marcus Mcdonell though

Agree on Mcdonell mate. Backed the draw in running at 33s & 25s

nice wish I'd have been as quick thinking

Still avaliable after the 2nd time he took him over

****g hell wasn't even watching the markets, always a bonus when one of them cops

reckon you made the right decision not to go mate judging by how Rawling keeps banging on about the cold

they was tearing the ar se out of it this weekend

I'll take the draw and Kiko by stoppage

frampton in 6

framptons price is ludacriously short no?

one forgets how f uckin g tiny they are. hard but small

either tht or my eyes dont work. they are tiny. i met mcguigan once and he was minute admittedly mssive character

and a total gent obviously. more respect for him than almost any british/irish sportsman

frampton stoppage looking likely, looks impressive

Keep him turning, takes him an age to get his feet set

kiko very very wary, not forgot that ko obviously

Superb so far by Frampton

Yep just take your time no need to turn this into a shoot out

dunno what barry jones is on about, if kiko lets his hands go wildy hes getting ktfo.

One thing Carl does poorly is his ability to tie his man up

Fantastic performance. Showed he could take a shot as well.

good performance though a virtual shut out. Bring on Frampton - Quigg

AND THE NEW

i thought he was awful but rarely a realistic shot on here gets a fair shout.
he fights like that again on world scene and he will get killed. he was rubbish

honestly - even khan wld kill him.
let alone anyone else.
time to take him out

what on earth are you talking about?

nice to hear Frampton wants the Quigg fight above all others...ha ha they gave Hearn some stick there going to be a great build up if they get it on

Hearn will probably offer 10 shillings and a curly wurly. Like Carl says he has the geniune belt he brings the fans

he isnt very good. isnt that obvious?

nurse!

anyone got a link for the Machine?

Gonna try for one later mate

http://www.direct-foot.info/channel1.html

gooooo oon the jackellllllll

gooooo oon the jackellllllll

was a great night, thank feck i brought a coat!

cheers for the link mate but decided to just download it this morning. Weird stoppage in the Mattyhsse fight, Ortiz looked a bit reluctant but strange how the ref was so keen to wave it off. Ref looked familiar has he made other dodgy calls recently?

140 looking good though, Burns better get some domestic battles lined up he'll get eaten alive if he tries for a title at that weight

You'll probably remember his name as he's come in for a lot of abuse regarding scorecards ACD. Paulie referred to him once as "Golden Boy's lap dog". Yeah Burns cant be worrying about his jaw and going in with these boys

notice there hasnt been any coverage/reports of the fight on sky sports news
must be cos he left eddie hearn/matchroom
seems a bit petty that given he won a world title
will be all the more satisfying then when he demolishes scott quigg

not so much that he left as that they're desperately trying to get him back...obviously playing hard ball i.e. look this is how we will ignore you if you dont come to an agreement. Petty isn't the word, they're like a bunch of kids all of them.

I'm broadly a fan of what Hearn is doing but he needs to stop pretending he owns a TV network, surprised how much slack SKY are giving him really.

I'm guessing the Quigg bandwagon is a dwindling force on here now I'm still not getting off the train yet...been tough times to be a Quigg fan since the Munroe fight (nearly 2 years ago!) but still think he has the talent to be competitive with Frampton...goes without saying Frampton will be way better prepared should they meet though.

I was at the event and it's by far my best ever Boxing experience.

i was at it too rhino great night although i actually thought the atmosphere wasnt as good outside compared to in the arena even though the crowd was bigger
must be to do with the noise echoing back in an arena

i like quigg alabaster seems a good lad and a top boxer but i dont think hes in carls class but then again i am biased
just watched the local news and they interviewed carl there he actually fought with a fracture in his hand for some of the fight which makes it an even better achievement

you may be right dasizzler...I've always thought there wasn't much between them potentially but no question Frampton has been brought along the better.

Frampton really impressed me on saturday and looked to have gears in reserve too. A real pity Quigg doesnt have a better opponent on saturday to further build the hype.

*not that Jamoye is a mug but he took a frightful beating against Yamanaka and that was at Bantam

I like Quigg its the Hearn Gallacher tripe which gets me. Until Quigg proves his chin I favour Carl.

Ladbrokes Frampton 1-2 Quigg 13-8

What I never understand is why they always go on about winning streaks in Joe's gym? Never heard any other gym go on about this but for some reason he's obsessed with it

He does love himself does Joe

looks like quigg v frampton should b made