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Them Bones
30 Mar 14 00:11
Date Joined: 16 Nov 08
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How will this go down?

Shouldn't it be a no contest here, or what?
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Report Decotron March 29, 2014 11:15 PM GMT
If you backed the fight not to go the distance do you get paid?
Report pulio March 29, 2014 11:25 PM GMT
NC & TD are the same thing.

interested to hear how the bookies would pay this one out though. Is there a hard and fast rule?

Are the method of victory market voided? Even though one of them is for draw/tech draw.

Draw backers should have been paid out and other markets settled as losers?
Report Baz March 29, 2014 11:26 PM GMT
Fight did not go 12 rounds and was declared a 'technical draw'. Bets should be settled as 'fight to go 12 rds' - no.
The fight should be settled as a draw as per following rule

For the avoidance of doubt should the fight be declared a Technical Draw it will be settled as a Draw.
Report alabaster crashes down March 29, 2014 11:30 PM GMT
draw backers on all markets will be paid, everyone else loses. It's a nonsense and the blame lies squarely at the BBBoC's door for their ridiculous T/D rule. Last one I can remember was Quigg/Munroe I, same thing happened there.
Report pulio March 29, 2014 11:36 PM GMT
Thats a real danger when you are betting on fights in the UK, unless you're backing the draw of course. I wonder if blindly backing draw in british fights would yield a profit
Report book March 29, 2014 11:37 PM GMT
why has this not be settled,a draw wins so please settle.
Report alabaster crashes down March 29, 2014 11:54 PM GMT
wondered that myself sometimes pulio, you're certainly getting a chunk of value with the ridiculous under 4 rounds rule. With so few fights being priced up and the lack of a decent database it's hard to gauge how much of an edge it would be though
Report Decotron March 30, 2014 12:04 AM GMT
They paid out on the fight not going the distance. Thank fook!
Report Trainy March 30, 2014 2:21 AM BST
how can they pay out on fight not going distance? sportsbook have voided?
Report alabaster crashes down March 30, 2014 2:29 AM BST
Sportsbook are in error then, the fight was a technical draw that didn't go the such thing as a no contest under British rules.
Report Trainy March 30, 2014 2:39 AM BST
(sportsbook) - i backed fight go distance (no) they voided, on the exchange it has paid out! is that a sports book error? the rules i have read are the same so why this
Report stattman March 30, 2014 10:08 AM BST
I backed Hall to win in rounds 2,3,4,or 5 and have lost on betfair . surerly at worst this should be voided as technical draw was not an option . Will check with my local bookies later .
Report sj March 30, 2014 11:12 AM BST
It s not a Britsh fight. You cant apply British board rules to the IBF WORLD TITLE but like so much the British Board is clueless. The IBF Rules clearly state Accidental foul(s) fight not completed four rounds will be a no contest.
The 3 knockdown rule is a prime example of this. Some Organizations have a 3 knockdown rule, now just because the fight is in Britain(the British board dont have a 3 knockdown rule) it still has to be recognised.
It s a enormous cluster fu ck last night is clearly a NC under IBF rules
Report alabaster crashes down March 30, 2014 12:46 PM BST
good point. I was forgetting it was a 'world title' fight actually Laugh

Did you watch Kovalev mate? Not seen it yet, heard he got his legs stiffened at one point but was pretty impressive nevertheless.
Report joe9000 March 30, 2014 1:12 PM BST
I have to laugh with how this fite has been settled. 1st off i backed Ward wit baldfred, settled as loss, don't think it's fair but whatever the rule is a joke. Just out of interest i had a look at paddys results cos i had probs with them b4. They have settled it a draw but yet have voided basically every other market, over/under, to go distance about frauds ffs

Kovalev fite was decent. Guy is just dangerous when he gets angry in ring, think both of them went hospital. But deffo showed up that he cud be clipped, so pity the Stevenson fite not gonna happen
Report sj March 30, 2014 1:21 PM BST
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alabaster crashes down 30 Mar 14 11:46 Joined: 13 Feb 08 | Topic/replies: 1,457 | Blogger: alabaster crashes down's blog
good point. I was forgetting it was a 'world title' fight actually Laugh

Did you watch Kovalev mate? Not seen it yet, heard he got his legs stiffened at one point but was pretty impressive nevertheless.

No worries mate as you pointed out the British board for years had a stupid rule eg a fighter loese the fight with a headclash even though he's miles clear,now instead of using your brain and just copying the rest of the world and bringing in a No Contest rule they've made it a ridiculous drawn fight. Very interesting with Froch Groves round the corner.
Shows how stupid it is as well it gets called a Technical Draw eg a "Decision" but there is never any cardsLaugh Havent seen Kovalev mate it s a shame as Joe pointed out the pimp as pulled a stunt and joined showtime
Report sj March 30, 2014 1:27 PM BST
From the IBF Rules

If the referee determines that a boxer has been accidentally injured and the bout cannot continue,
the referee shall immediately call a Technical Decision to be awarded to the contestant who is
ahead on the scorecards. If the fight can continue, the referee will notify the Commissioner and
the representative of the IBF/USBA of the accidental foul and if the fight has to be terminated
because of the injury in a later round as a result of the injury, the fight will be awarded in
accordance with the majority vote of the judges as disclosed on the scorecards. No Decision will
be awarded to any of the contestants if the situation occurs before four rounds have been completed
Report joe9000 March 30, 2014 1:52 PM BST - Kovalev told it like it is also, in fact he prob let stevenson off lightly
Report joe9000 March 31, 2014 3:10 AM BST - Good old Hills lol
Report stattman March 31, 2014 11:37 AM BST
I e-mailed betfair yesterday and asked them to explain there rules on this situation ,which is quite a rare happening in a boxing match to be fair ,still waiting for a reply .
Report Horangi. March 31, 2014 5:44 PM BST
This "decision" was infuriating.  How on earth does a fight that doesn't even go to the scorecards be deemed a draw of any sort?  I was robbed without a gun here, what a joke.
Report joe9000 March 31, 2014 6:52 PM BST
Bad enuf that the IBF and BBBofC have different rules, then when you throw in the fact that each different firm just settles whichever way suits themselves, this boxing betting is becoming a total minefield. All firms shud be settling the same. Tis a bit like when a footy match gets abandoned, once upon a time firms wud settle in many different ways but these days they usually all settle very similar. Needs to be the same 4 boxing.
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