Brook - Alexander

dunno Jimmy seems to be a lot of people heavily favouring Alexander and Brook not got the crossover appeal a la Hatton so would be surprised if there was much of a drift. Really want Kell to win so I can't back against him, might even have a small dabble @ 7/4 though I agree he's up against it.

yep me too, Brook got it all to prove and the conditioning excuse after the Jones fight could well prove to be nonsense but I dunno, I've just got a feeling he's going to put in a good performance and surprise a few people.

That would have been a dream sj!

Alexander also lost to Matthyse and Kotelnik, they just didn't get the result. That might prove a positive for Alexander backers as this one is again in St Louis.

All about the PEDS issue again for me, big allegations from the Maidana camp before their fight with Alexander. Devon looked ripped to bits for that and was very impressive, not so much in his next fight. Who's to say he didn't swerve the extra help last time out after all the heat from Maidana's team? Following the last below par performance who's to say he won't be back on them for Kel?

Same applies to Brook, his twitter/facebook pics look ridiculous. Arms outrageously thick, veins everywhere. Looked goosed against Jones, looked an athletic monster in his last outing. Could he be hugely improved again next time out after several more months with his conditioning coach, just like Marquez was after the extra time with Angel between fights 3 and 4 with Pac.

No b@stard bet again because I haven't got a clue who or what is showing up. Good luck whoever you're with, just hope there's no illegitimate surprises.

I just think they believe that whatever the result, they won't overly lose here. Can't see Alexander doing a horrific number on Kell, it's going to be competitive regardless and if he loses a close one the excuses are right there with it being in St Louis. A competitve loss would be worth it for the American exposure. Can't see them coming away to wounded from this.

Fight is in Detroit people, not St Louie

Have been looking for a reason to back Kell here but yet to find one. I think Brook has the power advantage and like the how versatile his right hand is - often throws a lead right hook disguised as a straight. Noticed in the first half of the Jones fight that he leaves his jab hanging sometimes, as if he's going for the double jab but doesn't. This didn't happen vs Salida so maybe a blip. I buy the conditioning story from the camp and saw first hand the results of working with Sheffield uni conditioners, if they can build on that again 7/4 will look value.
Need to watch more on Alexander. My initial thought was Brook KO but shyd away from that recently - awaiting prices.

Lol. People talking about how the uni guys r helping him v the guys who r drugging alex.

Maybe the conditioners should have a punch up.

F00k man too close to call. Obviously advantage alex cus he is the home fighter

good post ericali and I personally have a hunch that Brook will come away with the win but I think it's easy enough to see why Alexander is heavily favoured...it's all very well saying Brook has the edge in various categories but you can't forget he's fought precisely noone...he's got to prove those attributes stand up at the top level. I think 13/8 is just about worth a bet though it's partly a mug patriotic bet too for me, if it was two americans fighting I'd be leaving it alone.

carrie1187 • December 6, 2012 11:53 PM GMT
Not on best run myself. Hoping that it will be "england world cup" syndrome. Everyone jumps on bandwagon and end up being priced on fact he's english... He's never been near anyone of the quality of alexander.. Alexanders  last fight was a let down yes, but look what happened to mike jones, it was just one of them fights, I'll let him of playing that fight safe. The thing that makes me so positive is the performance against maidana, devon was awesome, he hurt him, totally outboxed him, haven't seen maidanas game been taken away like that before, very rare you see him backing up. I think alexander will prove he is an elite fighter and a lot better than we have seen so far (i think this weight class suits him a lot better) also don't see him as a boring fighter as many do. This fight will tell me whether i'm right or very wrong about him (made excuses last fight) He's boxing at "home", he's been in with top top fighters (agree got some questionable decisions) Looked a different fighter at this weight, i don't think anyones doubted his boxing ability, and maybe key hes been in with big big punchers (matthyse, maidana and bailey) and i think he's took there power well in general especially last two since move up. That is what for me is the biggest problem for brook who i've never seen as a big puncher, or a fighter who has the killer instinct. I can't see him outboxing devon enough to get a decision and i can see devon working out quite quickly that brook can't hurt him. And we all know what problems this can cause... However my record lately (backed cotto points, moreno points, lara points wud of won if not for headbutt, and a couple more) says that i'm probably totally wrong lol PS CANT WAIT for MARQUEZ to FINALLY get what he DESERVES!!!

That was my opinion on the fight, hasnt changed! Although can add adamek ko at 7-4 to my bad run (wish id watched adamek vs the cuban before would of realised he's used to getting heavily Knocked down and get up)

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Maidana was coming up though Carrie and there was heavy heavy accusations of drug use from Alexander, which possible explains his stamina boost, an attribute he's struggled with all his career. It's hard enough on ability between these two, you throw in the uncertainty of what version of each fighter shows up and it's near on impssoible for me.

Might have a little dabble on the draw. Could be super close and if Kel looks to have done enough there's every chance they call it a tie.

Whilst i wouldnt word it as strongly as Maravilla, a lot of what he says has some truth about it.

Think we are singing from the same hymn sheet here Maravilla.

I just think that on the evidence infront of us then Alexander has a better edge than 4/6.....hence he's a bet (for me anyway). I think Brook has more to give and can improve. In one way it would be nice to see another Brit get a world title but we are presuming he's going to have trained to his full potential which we cant be sure of.

Alexander has been in with world class operators and however contraversial some of those results might have been, we cant deny he held his own against them at the very least. Throw in the fact that he will be the home fighter and it looks even better for him.

Im trying not to read too much into the Carson Jones formline but you simply cant ignore it im afraid. I think Alexander has the big edge in 'boxing brain'.

Holding off backing yet to see if Alexander will drift, hopefully he will but i just dont know with this one.

I have read about a few British fighters saying that when they fought in the States they became tired very quickly feeling heavy legged.

When Brook fought on the undercard of Ward-Froch I thought he looked poor and took some meaty shots against a C level fighter.

I fancy Alexander strongly for this one and in my book I'd have him a 1/2 shot.

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well, not exactly a duck...looking like Alexander has landed the Mayweather jackpot instead, pretty disgraceful so close to fight time after all the work Brook has put in but suppose we should be used to all this by now. They're talking about it being a unification fight...going to take some serious step aside money for Matchroom to allow that surely? Unless Brook is promised a shot at the winner? I think that's a distinct possibility no matter how mad it sounds.

I wouldn't rule out Mayweather fighting Brook completely,  thousands of Brits descending on Vegas is a pretty lucrative  option. Granted Brook has nowhere near the level of support as Hatton right now, but a big win and the correct publicity in the meantime might change that.

Khan's just been given a high ranking @ 147 with the WBC hasn't he...Khan vs Brook winner gets Floyd vs Alexander winner, simples.

Probably all turn out to be bollocks anyway and it'll end up being Guerrerro.

nor should they.
the dullest of dull picks for mayweather. hopefully gets the ppv buys it deserves.