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carlos monzon
23 Jul 11 22:56
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His done himself proud no matter wat happens. Round 6 right now.

Fingers crossed
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Report Over2.5 July 23, 2011 10:57 PM BST
im in shock here
Report carlos monzon July 23, 2011 11:10 PM BST
Me2.

Surly Tyson will do it now. Under presure
Report carlos monzon July 23, 2011 11:11 PM BST
F00ks.

This is a wow fight.

Fury the most exciting fighter in uk by a 10 mile stretch

uv done us proud lad.

Hang in there. Hang in dere
Report carlos monzon July 23, 2011 11:14 PM BST
1 of the best fights ever.

Fury puts boxing back on the map.

No bad decsions please. Right man should win please.
Report larrence July 23, 2011 11:15 PM BST
brilliant fight
Report Peter Ridsdale July 23, 2011 11:16 PM BST
carlos monzon
23 Jul 11 23:11


Fury the most exciting fighter in uk by a 10 mile stretch


I think Carl Froch & Amir Khan would beg to differ, you seem to be getting a bit to excited by Fury beating a overweight, unproven out of shape fighter.
Report carlos monzon July 23, 2011 11:19 PM BST
Surly has to get this on pts. Fury needsgj k
Report Over2.5 July 23, 2011 11:20 PM BST
wins this easily on points
Report NSL July 23, 2011 11:20 PM BST
Carlos you don't half get carried away, best fight ever? Laugh Did you see them having a rest and a chat in the corner in round 8?
Report NSL July 23, 2011 11:21 PM BST
one of the best fights ever*

Even so a ludicrous claim.
Report Peter Ridsdale July 23, 2011 11:23 PM BST
The second coming of Gerry Cooney!!!! The new 'Great White Hope'
Report Peter Ridsdale July 23, 2011 11:26 PM BST
That was up the with Hagler-Hearns, Gatti-Ward & Morales-Barrera!
Report NSL July 23, 2011 11:30 PM BST
Laugh
Report stevealan July 23, 2011 11:30 PM BST
gerry cooney lol
Report Kriskin July 24, 2011 12:26 AM BST
Great to see big Tyson doing it.  He'll put up a better performance than the Haye when he fights one of the brothers in yrs to come
Report Peter Ridsdale July 24, 2011 12:34 AM BST
If they've got any sense they'll wait till both the Klitschko's have retired before they even think about going for a HW world title.
Report Eeternaloptimist July 24, 2011 1:08 AM BST
Wel done Tyson lad. Showed plenty of heart when it mattered but don't think Chisora's agricultural style is anywhere near world class. He would have embarrassed himself against Wlad. Fury needs to get back in the gym, get quality sparring and give it another couple of years and if he keeps improving he could well be our next heavyweight world champion. He doesn't need to rush because there isn't much outside the Klitschko's and they aren't getting any younger.

He is definitely someone who can put boxing back on the map in this country and what a shot in the arm to have such a good fight back where it belongs on terrestrial tv so the masses can enjoy it.
Report Over2.5 July 24, 2011 1:19 AM BST
eternal im assuming by you saying "our" that your irish ?? you do realise fury is irish don,t you ?
Report Eeternaloptimist July 24, 2011 1:20 AM BST
I'm from Irish stock and from near Manchester so double bubble. LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Over2.5 July 24, 2011 1:26 AM BST
He is an has gypsy roots... full blown catholic and walks out with green and white gloves to U2 LaughLaughLaughLaugh actual glad to see him win good for the sport and for the irish
Report Quim July 24, 2011 1:31 AM BST
SH1T fight.....bumfest. David Price would knock either out..........CLEAN KID YE GET ME
Report PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF CHINA July 24, 2011 1:36 PM BST
born in manchester was he not?
good fight,neither would beat vitaili,but not many would,after all he will go down as one of the greats.
Report giggitygiggity July 24, 2011 6:32 PM BST
fury is c rap - david price would take him to school
Report Eeternaloptimist July 24, 2011 7:19 PM BST
What an idiotic comment. Price may well also have a future in the division but to make such a comment reveals pure bias and cannot be taken seriously. Fury has all the tools to be a force at world level in a couple of years. What he has lacked in the past is focus. It seems his father's incarceration has caused him to buck his ideas up.
Report giggitygiggity July 24, 2011 7:55 PM BST
Im not biased at all - im from london so not a one eyed scouse fan. Price has got genuine boxing skills as proved by his olympic medal. Just compare the techniques to see who has the better skills - you dont know what you are talkin about if you cant see Price has more potential
Report Eeternaloptimist July 24, 2011 9:49 PM BST
You are jumping to conclusions. I seem to remember a certain olympic heavyweight champion who couldn't move beyond British standard. Before we hand Price any accolades lets see him in with a better standard of fighter than he has been in with thus far. To be fair the same applies to Fury but he has only just turned 23 and Price is 28 and Fury has just come through a fight where he had to dig in with a difficult round. Lets see what happens to Price when he has his whiskers tested.

Which doesn't mean that Price can't also develop. I am taking issue with your assertion that Price would take him to school when there is so much more to be revealed about both fighters.
Report larrence July 24, 2011 9:51 PM BST
fury is the real deal, would beat price.
Report owl4life July 25, 2011 1:28 PM BST
Price hasn't fought anybody of quality yet, Dallas is his best win but he was exposed in his previous outing.
Report tobermory July 25, 2011 1:39 PM BST
Didn't Price get KO'D in the Olympics
Report Valleyparade July 25, 2011 1:46 PM BST
Fury is in no way the real deal. Price would have him out of there within 6.
Report alwayswinning2000 July 25, 2011 2:14 PM BST
fury is shockingly bad
Report Eeternaloptimist July 25, 2011 2:37 PM BST
That is one of the great things about life and indeed betting. Everybody has an opinion.
Report Duketurtle July 25, 2011 8:43 PM BST
Daft to say price would have him out of there or would do a number on the big fella. We don't know how well he takes a punch, don't think he's took one yet and got dropped in the amateurs. Tyson's not got excellent power but he does seem to possess a really good chin so to say price wins in one just seem a bit ludicrous
Report Duketurtle July 25, 2011 8:43 PM BST
Daft to say price would have him out of there or would do a number on the big fella. We don't know how well he takes a punch, don't think he's took one yet and got dropped in the amateurs. Tyson's not got excellent power but he does seem to possess a really good chin so to say price wins in one just seem a bit ludicrous
Report carlos monzon July 25, 2011 9:17 PM BST
tobermory     25 Jul 11 13:39  
Didn't Price get KO'D in the Olympics



Yeh we need to get that Italian policeman for him if pryce fans get too excited.

Could u imagine wat that policeman would think if pryce dominated the heavy division
Report carlos monzon July 25, 2011 9:20 PM BST
Povetkin destroyed the policeman though so go with that theory.

And yes fury lost avery close decsion to pryce but he was only 17. And alot of people including fury thought he won.

But he battered him in England squad training for the olympics and his camp thought it was very unfair pryce went to the olympics instead of fury.

Pryce has a very serious chin problem
Report giggitygiggity July 25, 2011 10:30 PM BST
Price has a defence and genuine boxing skills

Fury's chin is wide open and he gets square on all the time.

You cannot seriously compare techniques.

Price did bottle it and froze at the olympics- hence got knocked out
Report Eeternaloptimist July 26, 2011 12:12 AM BST
Well thats okay then. LaughLaughLaugh
Report carlos monzon July 26, 2011 12:42 AM BST
After only 15 fights and 17 year old fury fought price who had much more expereinced and knocked him down  as well but lost by a fairly wide margin because of computer system scoring.

Fury a junior  world bronze medalis. After only 10 fights.
Report Carlo Gambino July 26, 2011 8:30 PM BST
Tyson Fury is not a boxer.

He had to force himself to do combinations - you could see his mind going

'... what was it now we did in the gym ... one of these jab tings... that cross thing... then that hooky whatsit, right I'll give it a go.'

Manufactured, and manufactured from wood at that.

And he came into the fight with a roll of blubber round his midriff. although at least that was two less rolls than Chisora had.

Haye would trounce him, Klitchkos would squash him flat, I'd even back Audrey against him.

Still, good-looking lad, on terrestrial, loves god, jesus and his mum, and I'm sure Frank Warren will 'carefully manage' his career.
Report Eeternaloptimist July 26, 2011 9:01 PM BST
Fury's problem has previously been conditioning. To accuse him of being manufactured is wide of the mark in my view. He is still raw and crying out for the tuition which a Steward could bring him. The fact is that he throws combinations now which is more than the vast majority of todays heavyweights do.

Isn't he a Mick Hennessy fighter?
Report carlos monzon July 26, 2011 9:28 PM BST
Yes. Hennesy I believe also.

Where did u get warren from
Report tobermory December 1, 2014 6:25 AM GMT
ttt
Report Eeternaloptimist December 1, 2014 10:28 AM GMT
Reading some of these old treads is enjoyable and informative. At least the ones where ou don't ake a fool of yoursef with predictions. Laugh
Report Eeternaloptimist December 1, 2014 10:38 AM GMT
carlos was very wild in his predictions. Have a butchers at what one wise owl said. I can't seem to remember who: Blush

Wel done Tyson lad. Showed plenty of heart when it mattered but don't think Chisora's agricultural style is anywhere near world class. He would have embarrassed himself against Wlad. Fury needs to get back in the gym, get quality sparring and give it another couple of years and if he keeps improving he could well be our next heavyweight world champion. He doesn't need to rush because there isn't much outside the Klitschko's and they aren't getting any younger.
Report Winner_Winner_Chicken_Diner December 2, 2014 2:32 AM GMT
Finally Fury is getting recognition
Report Kriskin December 2, 2014 11:16 PM GMT
WD Tyson.  Ur still on track to you target
Report charwell. December 8, 2014 12:06 PM GMT
Fury is garbage. As if Chisora is some sort of reputable benchmark!

Heavyweight boxing currently is a joke.
Report GREEDISGOOD December 9, 2014 7:49 PM GMT
Fury still brilliant in a sh1t way
Report carlos monzon December 25, 2014 4:24 PM GMT
Could not believe it wen I saw this thread.

Was so pi ssed of Cus backed fury on pts at 3.35 on ere.

Thought the ref and crowd were awful.

Ref asking both fighters to get going.

Klit does it all the time, chisora fought his heart out. Wat exactly do u want him to do

Crowd booing was awful to.

If u dnt like watching sweet science then dnt watch it.

Dnt be disrespectfull to chisora who at the time was taking a pasting
Report Kriskin November 28, 2015 11:25 PM GMT
TTT.  We knew alright on here.  Well done Tyson.
Report Eeternaloptimist November 28, 2015 11:49 PM GMT
Cool
Report Eeternaloptimist November 28, 2015 11:50 PM GMT
Perhaps we shouldn't celebrate too early. David Price could be waiting round the corner. Laugh
Report Eeternaloptimist November 28, 2015 11:52 PM GMT
Wel done Tyson lad. Showed plenty of heart when it mattered but don't think Chisora's agricultural style is anywhere near world class. He would have embarrassed himself against Wlad. Fury needs to get back in the gym, get quality sparring and give it another couple of years and if he keeps improving he could well be our next heavyweight world champion. He doesn't need to rush because there isn't much outside the Klitschko's and they aren't getting any younger.

Wink
Report Kriskin November 28, 2015 11:52 PM GMT
Eeternal - a few on here now need to wake and realise how good the lad is.  A few argued with us about David Price  - LaughLaugh
Report Eeternaloptimist November 28, 2015 11:56 PM GMT
Yep. Can you believe one of the mugs said this:

Im not biased at all - im from london so not a one eyed scouse fan. Price has got genuine boxing skills as proved by his olympic medal. Just compare the techniques to see who has the better skills - you dont know what you are talkin about if you cant see Price has more potential

He's probably still holding on to his Harrison and Price double for world champs. Laugh
Report scandanavian_haven November 28, 2015 11:58 PM GMT
27 year old beat a has been 40 year old, who looked every bit his age, nothing to get excited about tbh.
Report Eeternaloptimist November 29, 2015 12:02 AM GMT
There's always one. You'd think he'd be celebrating after cleaning up.
Report Kriskin November 29, 2015 12:02 AM GMT
posted by - scandanavian_haven

replies: 3094    28 Nov 15 23:58   
27 year old beat a has been 40 year old, who looked every bit his age, nothing to get excited about tbh.


Complete nonsense.  Fury made him look poor tonite.  No one said he was finished before the fight started.  The 39yr old was 1/4.  Fury will make all other challengers look the same
Report Eeternaloptimist November 29, 2015 12:02 AM GMT
I hope my old mate carlos is raising a glass tonight.
Report Eeternaloptimist November 29, 2015 12:04 AM GMT
He just needs to keep his head right, prepare well for future fights and he'll get at least 10% better just for holding the belts. Knowing how he operates he could come in in Buster Douglas shape against Holy Man. That's the gamble.
Report scandanavian_haven November 29, 2015 12:11 AM GMT
There's always one what, opposite opinion, lol.

Klitchko fights bums normally and at 40 years old he's been getting slower and less motivated in his performances, probably even relieved Fury beat him, you can't really think Fury is a special boxer, at best he is workmanlike and that's exactly how he won, it was hardly great technical or edge of the seat stuff. The heavyweight division was terrible and now it's got even worse.
Report jasey November 29, 2015 12:19 AM GMT
For some reason people don't want to except how good Tysons boxing skills are.
Report Eeternaloptimist November 29, 2015 12:19 AM GMT
If you thought Wlad was a has been you must have skinned the bookies scandinavian.

The fact is that Fury set Wlad a connundrum with his longer reach and head movement and Wlad didn't really set about solving it until way too late. Wlad has always set guys up behind the jab but Fury got his jab in first and when Wlad sought to impose himself behind the jab Fury made him miss. Fury fought a great fight to beat Wlad and it's poor form not to acknowledge that fact. Of course he'll fight differently depending on the opponent.
Report scandanavian_haven November 29, 2015 12:32 AM GMT
Whilst Fury was changing stance and did a job on him executing his uncle's plan, let's keep it in perspective, he wasn't a rank outsider with no hope so it was hardly a clean up job, Klitchko has never been a great boxer, he's made a career out of beating absolute nobodies who you wouldn't recognise if they walk past you in the street, and his become a millionaire doing so, Fury has beaten a guy who is old, slow, unmotivated and way past his prime.
Report Eeternaloptimist November 29, 2015 12:35 AM GMT
Well you certainly get the award for biggest after timer. Some of us posted our thoughts before the fight. In fact some of us were saying he had the tools several years ago. Few people if any suggested Wlad was gone at the game. How easy it all is after the event.
Report tobermory November 29, 2015 1:05 AM GMT
You can't say Wlad was years past his prime.

Late 30s Wlad was a far better fighter than late 20s Wlad.
Report charwell. November 29, 2015 2:10 AM GMT
Like bald men arguing over a comb.

Fury is very, very limited. Wlad is past his limited and robotic prime.

Heavyweight boxing is, and has, been in the doldrums for years. Fury has done well to get where he is and hearty congratulations to him.

However, lets see it for what it is. Average.
Report thefarmer November 29, 2015 5:16 AM GMT
Well done to Tyson Fury. A case of being the right man in the right place at the right time. Klitschko has been in decline since the passing of Manny Steward and it was only a matter of time before he got found out. Fury boxed well but i have a feeling his reign will be short lived as both Wilder and Joshua are way too good for him.

As for Klitschko, he should be ashamed at the pitiful defence he put up here. He doesnt deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as the likes of Joe Louis, Floyd Paterson and Lennox Lewis,
Report jasey November 29, 2015 8:42 AM GMT
So you filled your boots then Farmer by backing Fury.
Fury would Jab Wilders head off,that is if Wilder would fight him.Talk of Joshua fighting Fury is plain stupid,why would Eddie Hearn want to pitch AJ against Fury when he can fight nobody's on ppv
Report Eeternaloptimist November 29, 2015 11:17 AM GMT
Wilder is athletic and can hit reasonably hard farmer but he's a Michael Grant type for me which is why he's fighting average fighters and building up his bank balance. He wouldn't have dreamt of fighting Wlad and I look forward to him taking on Fury if he has the stones. If Joshua answers the two questions about chin and stamina then he could be the complete package but he doesn't need to rush things. He needs a couple more years moving up gradually and then he could really set the division alight.
Report Over2.5 November 29, 2015 2:20 PM GMT
lennox lewisLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Shrewd_dude November 29, 2015 5:08 PM GMT
Lot of aftertimers on trying to crab Fury's victory by saying Wlad was past it and crap. Just need to accept Fury is a far better boxer than they thought.

To think the bookies priced him up against price at the 10/3 mark and he was even bigger against Haye (may not have won but always thought that was the wrong price).
Report Kriskin November 29, 2015 5:50 PM GMT
farmer - have u seen the boys Wilder has been fighting?  Not one of them Top 10 boxers.  Eric Molina, et al.  AJ is the same.  Do u remember people shouting about David price?  Look what happened to his career.  Until u step up and fight the best then at present all u have is questions.  Fury has done what many others have failed to do.
Report maleuk01. November 29, 2015 9:13 PM GMT
you cant knock the man.

He is very entertaining, and made the most of his abilities, and fought very well against a world champion who was undefeated in over 10 years. Good luck to him.

He is also now the IBF, WBA and WBO Heavyweight Champion of the World!!!
Report thefarmer November 29, 2015 9:58 PM GMT
Kriskin - I have seen the guys that Wilder has been fighting. The truth is that there is very little depth in the heavyweight division right now. Who has Fury fought other than Klitschko? Even Klitschko himself has been fighting bums for the past few years with the exception of Povetkin, so i am not sure what point you are trying to make
Report Kriskin November 29, 2015 10:01 PM GMT
My point is Fury has beaten the best around.  Wilder & AJ have NOT.  That is my point.  Furey is currently the best around by a long way. Others need to step up
Report carlos monzon November 20, 2016 4:47 PM GMT
Did it in the end.


Fantastic.


Shame about the rest
Report tobermory February 23, 2020 6:17 AM GMT
try
Report Winner_Winner_Chicken_Diner February 23, 2020 6:28 AM GMT
Thanks mate, there was an earlier thread though were he was being shat on and a few of us could see he had it. Notice my comment on this thread "finally he is getting recognition" Not that it matter now. He has proven to be the number 1. The mans mental strength is multiple levels above. You can be sure he will deliver on the big nights. I think he can destroy Joshua with this same performance only end him 1 or 2 rounds earlier. Joshua doesn't have the heart of Wilder.
Report Facts February 23, 2020 6:43 AM GMT
Perfection from Fury. A great performance and well deserved.
Report geordie1956 February 23, 2020 8:09 AM GMT
I doubt Joshua will be rushing to sign contracts after that performance ... tremendous performance from Fury who delivered when it mattered
Report ZEALOT February 23, 2020 8:35 AM GMT
There is nobody around . The division is the worst it has ever been .
Report Kriskin February 23, 2020 11:07 AM GMT
As stated above - Fury can only beat what is around him.  Until now he has done that.  Well done Tyson
Report Emitdeb February 23, 2020 6:59 PM GMT
Wilder's just a big punch. Fury just bum rushed him out of his stride, couldnt set himself for the big one so was totally nullified.. Great strategy well executed...

Everyone seems to get a little over excited about the quality in the heavy weight division at the moment... All very much over hyped.. imo.
Report hitlerwinsagainlolol July 25, 2020 1:44 PM BST
I think we could have a Tyson v Tyson exhibition very very soon. Possibly early next year. I’d say a very good chance of it happening. Makes sense dnt it
Report TimmyRiggins July 25, 2020 5:58 PM BST
Yeah, not like Tyson Fury has much else going on Crazy
Report wisewords July 25, 2020 7:48 PM BST
Crazy
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