Bloodstock & Breeding
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31 Jul 19
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Coolmore?? I don't get it. A fragile 2yo. Surely they have their own? I was thinking Overbury etc.
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smart move, buying into the kingman bloodline
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I think this sireline is starting to look quite consistent and can be relied upon now to regularly supply....unsoundness.
Calyx is a horse with a big reputation and that has been nurtured and Coolmore are taking advantage of that and a sireline they are traditionally light on. I can see why all parties have done the deal but I am reminded of Prima Donna and Slick'nSmooth's mantra. Steer clear of the obviously unsound, it finds you soon enough. |
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In Magna Grecia they already have a G1-winning juvenile and Classic winner by Invincible Spirit.
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I 100% agree PotM. And his bare form although good is not outstanding. Surely he isn't more than 7/8k? That means moderate mares to an unsound horse, that doesn't feel like Coolmore to me.
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as stated in RP calyx will be supported by coolmore and juddmonte mares, could be worth a punt at 10k
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I doubt it. He may get a few mares, Juddmonte have enough stallions to support. £10k? sounds high to me, especially when you consider he will get 200 mares at Coolmore. There will be a lot of them at the sales.
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calyx hopefully will do a lot better than war command, they both won the coventry and if calyx didnt get an injury that year he might of won a group 1 race, they priced WC at 15k euros. 10k could be a bargain.
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I was suprised when I read Coolmore had part-acquired Calyx for stallion duties. They surely produce enough sires of their own, and I am reminded of another fairly-recent acquisition - Most Improved (who?).
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I reckon he’ll be a minimum of 15k and comfortably see over 100 mares first season. Incidentally, I was talking with a UK stallion manager today who is absolutely gutted not to be standing him.
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Was it Overbury? I thought he might end up there for 8kish. You are probably right JM but 15k is a lot for a 115 rated unsound sprinter. It makes Buratino for a £5k lifetime nom look very cheap.
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Another outcross for their battalions of Galileo mares? They can afford to take the chance?
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Juddmonte themselves could do with a new on-trend speed outcross sire. With the history of reciprocity between these parties they might be parting with a few sovereigns later in the year ??
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Wasn't Overbury True Honcho. From what I've heard by the way, a figure of €25k is being thrown around.
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Thanks JM. 25k wow, Ten Sov's must be 50k!
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Well if anyone's asking your opinion JM tell them this breeder isn't paying anything like 25k. They do know the its virtual parity with the Euro/Sterling right?! Kingman proxy isn't that much of a draw surely (and isn't a guarantee of speed unlike say Advertise)
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I would have thought there will be plenty of Kingman's available over the next few seasons for those who want one at a reasonable price.
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Johnny_Mustang
07 Aug 19 15:25 Joined: 18 Feb 07 | Topic/replies: 13,107 | Blogger: Johnny_Mustang's blog Wasn't Overbury True Honcho. From what I've heard by the way, a figure of €25k is being thrown around. Well, almost. |
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Coolmore have probably got it right with TS
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