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After trying and failing to get Scarborough - a 5-y-o speedball BHA rated 87 at best - covered successfully with sub-fertile Starspangledbanner this year we need to crack on with her breeding programme.
Probably would like to put a bit of size into the youngster, especially with it being the first one, and I am looking at it from a commercial point of view.
Any of you experts got any thoughts on sprint stallions?
Looked at Showcasing, Dream Ahead and even looked at taking a gamble on Twilight Son - the SLF isn't really an issue just simply want best option of commercial success.
Probably would like to put a bit of size into the youngster, especially with it being the first one, and I am looking at it from a commercial point of view.
Any of you experts got any thoughts on sprint stallions?
Looked at Showcasing, Dream Ahead and even looked at taking a gamble on Twilight Son - the SLF isn't really an issue just simply want best option of commercial success.
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Of the first season mob in descending order:
Shalaa
The Gurkha
Awtaad
Twilight Son
Kodi Bear
Markaz
Those not in their first season who are at a reasonable fee, my best guesses would be:
Starspangledbanner (fertility is apparently 75% - so you could have another go and get in there early this time.
Camacho
If I was breeding on a budget, to sell as a yearling I would be tempted to take a chance on Requinto (€5k). He's running at 50% winners to runners and covered his biggest crop of 152 this year. He could well fall off a cliff between now and 2018 but I can see 2019 being a good year for him just when you come to sell.
I've no idea from a size perspective as I've not seen any of them but I'm sure other forumites might be able to help on that count.
Shalaa
The Gurkha
Awtaad
Twilight Son
Kodi Bear
Markaz
Those not in their first season who are at a reasonable fee, my best guesses would be:
Starspangledbanner (fertility is apparently 75% - so you could have another go and get in there early this time.
Camacho
If I was breeding on a budget, to sell as a yearling I would be tempted to take a chance on Requinto (€5k). He's running at 50% winners to runners and covered his biggest crop of 152 this year. He could well fall off a cliff between now and 2018 but I can see 2019 being a good year for him just when you come to sell.
I've no idea from a size perspective as I've not seen any of them but I'm sure other forumites might be able to help on that count.
Thanks for replies - PP not sure about Starspangled being 75% though - was told on QT that he has an appalling fertility rate (had to leave the mare for 6 weeks with Coolmore and they certainly don't do walk-ins).
Proxygene - quite set on Iffraaj as commercially proven.
Proxy is bang on, Iffraaj is a commercial option but at £27,500 he isn't cheapest.
Having said that he's got a big crop of 2yo s for 2017 conceived at a then fee high of €25k so presumably out of useful mares. If he has the year I think he will, he could find himself in Kodiac/Dark Angel territory in 2018. Also he gets a good filly so it would be less of a worry if you bred one of those.
If I was pinhooking on a much bigger budget I would love to get one.
What is your budget?
Having said that he's got a big crop of 2yo s for 2017 conceived at a then fee high of €25k so presumably out of useful mares. If he has the year I think he will, he could find himself in Kodiac/Dark Angel territory in 2018. Also he gets a good filly so it would be less of a worry if you bred one of those.
If I was pinhooking on a much bigger budget I would love to get one.
What is your budget?
Showcasing was mentioned so thats what I based it on.
There is no upper limit - the key is the potential return on investment. The more I look at Iffraaj stats the more I like that one.
Update on original post
Scarborough went to Acclamation last week - stallion was full up, but a spare private nomination saved the day!
Scarborough went to Acclamation last week - stallion was full up, but a spare private nomination saved the day!
I hope she didn't go to him last week, you'll likely get a December foal!
Not a walk in job Wilycayote - looks like a 2 month project!
Looking at his stats (given a E30K covering fee) you would be unlucky not to make a profit?
Good luck-he had another Group 1 winner this year and has lots of 100+ rated horses.
Good luck-he had another Group 1 winner this year and has lots of 100+ rated horses.
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