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bert147
19 Nov 12 03:43
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Firstly this is a good decision as when he has the ammunition Peter is one of the best in the country. However how long can the Qatar mob keep paying over the odds for yearlings? £2.5m? Whichever bloodstock agent signed off on that needs their head testing. Far better off (in terms of ROI%) buying 7 or 8 in the £300k range. Pedigree, looks and "how it moves" is all so subjective and track records of these buys is woeful.

When are buyers and parasitic agents going to start buying on truly objective measures. Have been doing a bit of research into maximum heart rate in racehorses. Studies in america have shown if a horse cant get to at least 220 b.p.m it wont be any good no matter how it looks, walks or if it's full sister won the Oaks. Get Hydrogen or any yearling hooked up with a HR monitor in a field and you will have a much better idea of potential than some tweed jacket type saying how wonderful it looks.
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Report kincsem November 19, 2012 12:19 PM GMT
He is on a hiding to nothing training something that costly.
Report potentialmillionaire November 19, 2012 3:07 PM GMT
So, Bert.

When you have a lovely Galileo at home on your stud, you presumably will be happy to have all and sundry come and chase it round the field with a big stick to get it up to maximum heart rate will you?
As it is a lovely Galileo it will be quite popular, so you may have to do it 5o times or so. No problem there then.

When I have a lovely Galileo I fear I might not be so laissez faire.

I suppose then the argument becomes, 'well if he wants to sell it he needs to get with the programme'.

So my lovely Galileo then meets your criteria with a heart that goes round like a Catherine wheel. Sadly it's not very well limbed so it breaks down cantering up warren Hill just after it's broken.

Oh, what? It has a lovely set of limbs, and a catherine wheel heart rate. Infact it is the best prospect on public offer this year? Your criteria are obviously so reliable that it can't fail. Great, that means I will get 15 million for it. After all knowledge is king, right?

What, it's fallen off the ramp leaving the horsebox and broken it's leg. . .?

Perhaps it's best to keep it simple after all. You'll never change the lemmings leaping to their death at the hand of their bookmaker just before the Wokingham, the Stewards Cup or the Lincoln will you, so perhaps it's best not to try and take the guesswork out of buying a yearling too much either!
Report bert147 November 19, 2012 3:17 PM GMT
FYI Thouroughbreds are flight animals, takes 7 secs to get up to max heart rate. I realize my example will never work. What if you own Cheveley Park stud and have 100 well bred yearlings. Which ones should you sell, which ones to race? Surely hooking them up to a heart rate monitor would be useful. Then keep the ones who have the 220bpm+ and sell the rest. This would be a good strategy for any stud.
Report potentialmillionaire November 19, 2012 3:51 PM GMT
How can they keep their testing programme private? Surely that would involve a certain ammount of deceit no?

But if they don't then they ain't going to sell any of their 'surplus' to anyone!

I find your information about the 7 second flight rule very interesting. Does a fit yearling really only take 7 seconds to get to full heart rate? Or does their 7 second dash  need to involve a touch of terror? Good luck catching them in time to check the monitor if so! No scientist me (what you guessed Crazy) so would like to hear more.

I know getting an edge is something we all strive for. It's just that it never remains edgy for very long and the pot of dosh will only be shared out in a different manner for a while. It's the same dosh, just the shape of the spout that changes perhaps.
Report sageform November 19, 2012 5:34 PM GMT
Presumably some other agent or owner bid 2.4 mil or was it bid up that far by the breeder?
Report Black Sam Bellamy November 19, 2012 8:42 PM GMT
Magnier was the underbidder Sageform.

I'm looking forward to Alistair Down's Annual RP Sunday on PCH...the renaissance man.

"Hydrogen brought me back to life"
Report kincsem November 22, 2012 7:54 AM GMT
If I remember correctly one old northern trainer selected his fastest two year old for a client by driving his Land Rover at the two year olds.  The fastest was the fastest away. Happy
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