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Johnny_Mustang
06 Nov 12 11:20
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In Ireland. What do we make of that then?

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potentialmillionaire
When: 06 Nov 12 11:32
Well I've sort of been waiting for this years Hannon 2yo to announce his swan song. It's becoming a bit of a pattern is it not for one or two of his type to take this route. Any news JM as to a specific problem or is it just taking the money and running?
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Johnny_Mustang
When: 06 Nov 12 12:41
Wouldn't like to comment on any problem at the moment but I'm sure it's a win/win situation for both parties. I understand he'll be in the region of 5K.
By:
Posh Paddy
When: 06 Nov 12 13:50
Well Morristown Lattin (Dark Angel), Tally Ho (Zeberdee), Rathasker (Fast Company) & Rathbarry (Lilbourne Lad) have this type already, by process of elimination I'd say Ballyhane.
By:
Johnny_Mustang
When: 06 Nov 12 14:02
Not Ballyhane PP, they've just taken delivery of a son of Redoute's Choice.
By:
potentialmillionaire
When: 06 Nov 12 14:18
I'm sure it's a win situation for Mr Tinkler - and it's always a win situation for Mr Doyle Angry - but is it a win situation for (Tally Ho?).

It's one thing going down this route with an Invincible Spirit/Oasis Dream. . .

I think the whole process pretty much stinks, as I've ranted on about before, and to attempt it with an unproven sire from an unliked sireline seems to be a leap too far.

I'm preparing to be wrong again though!
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Johnny_Mustang
When: 06 Nov 12 14:20
Couldn't agree more PotM. I'm now just waiting for a son of Sixties Icon to be retired for next year.....
By:
potentialmillionaire
When: 06 Nov 12 14:39
OOH, Dreamy, I can't wait I'll be in with a block booking. . . .
By:
yer ma
When: 06 Nov 12 14:43
A Few on here seem to reserve their new sire roth for UK studs but the Irish are pulling some inexplicable ones out this year.  Tamayuz, flying childers! Amusing to me that the horse he beat on his biggest day (bungleinthejungle) is WAY more attractive sire prospect but they've not the brass neck.  I look forward to them selling like hot cakes to the right faces ;)
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Johnny_Mustang
When: 06 Nov 12 14:55
I remember discussing on here whether Born To Sea had the potential to be a stallion and where he might end up. After the recent spate of retirees he'd be like bloody Galileo himself in comparison.
By:
potentialmillionaire
When: 06 Nov 12 15:20
And why not Society Rock? Plenty to worry about, especially as I haven't seen him, but at least he has had a career as a racehorse. And isn't that supposed to be what it's all about?
By:
proxygene
When: 06 Nov 12 15:32
this much choice ... will drive me to the devil you know proven sires
By:
truehoncho
When: 06 Nov 12 17:39
Agree with much of whats been said on here about SP. I do however think his sire is decent and a decent outcross for Danzig and Sadler's Wells lines (amoung others). I think at his fee he is one of the few with quality and the potential to get good stock and his sales figures are decent enough. Maybe one of the few that are commercial and bring a bit of quality to your mares.
By:
dominion
When: 06 Nov 12 19:02
Whoever stands him,deserves everything they get.Just when we seem to be getting control of the numbers of poor horses in training,another 60 or so will join them in 2016.
By:
Black Sam Bellamy
When: 06 Nov 12 19:42
Has the horse actually retired or does he go to stud at the end of next year ?
By:
Eont
When: 07 Nov 12 09:32
I sthis not the time for the Irish National Stud with the TBA's of Britain and Ireland to start a use proven rachorse campaign.

Something along the lines of the RP bonus but for horses that have used a sire who may have run 15+ times (think Famous Name.)
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Johnny_Mustang
When: 07 Nov 12 11:03
It would never happen. Although in Germany, and Turkey of all places, I'm pretty sure they have very stringent views on suitability of racehorses going to stud in terms of race record and soundness issues. And critics of such an idea would point out that horses such as Danzig (injury ended career after 3 starts) and Fairy King (1 start) did the breed no harm. Although long after we're all gone, I can't quite see breeders in 30 years time fighting over themselves for horses with a double strain of Zeberdee, Lilbourne Lad or heavens above, Sir Prancealot in their pedigrees.
By:
truehoncho
When: 09 Nov 12 21:13
theres always Doncaster Rover
By:
jmc27
When: 09 Nov 12 21:56
....and Danzig never even raced in stakes company Laugh

I think this is madness tho and I would have though Tinkler would have been an owner that would like to see his horses race on especially ones of this standard
By:
kincsem
When: 15 Nov 12 04:05
pedigreequery.com says stands at Tally-Ho Stud, Ireland in 2013.
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