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Race1
25 Jan 11 17:12
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Has anyone else noticed how well Piccolo is doing on the AW this year? He's not particularly commercial, but for owner breeders trying to breed sprinters I think you could do a lot worse.

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By:
potentialmillionaire
When: 25 Jan 11 19:58
Piccolo gets his winners and he can get a good looking horse too.

As not an actual star, I wonder how much he suffered being at Lavington all those years. It was such a long way to go for 'just another' sprint sire.

I am sure the Baldings will be accommodating on price so he might be worth a go for a cheap racehorse.
By:
formboy
When: 25 Jan 11 20:09
Has Piccolo had much success as a broodmare sire?
By:
Wilycayote
When: 26 Jan 11 08:25
Not sure about him as a broodmare sire but love him as a cheap speed sire that produces good looking horses.

The Warning branch of stallions is highly under used in my opinion. I'm sure the likes of Diktat, Piccolo, Averti, even Bishop of Cashel, all had the potential to climb the table further given a slightly different set of circumstances and a few bits of better luck.

Not many Warning line sire's left.
By:
sageform
When: 26 Jan 11 10:59
Piccolo last 6 years UK wins only
2005 62
06   51
07   47
08   53
09   49
10   33

Quite consistent until last year. 6 in Jan 2011 to date so could do better again this year. Many of his wins are low grade sprint handicappers though.
By:
ribellaro
When: 26 Jan 11 13:50
Wilycayote, maybe things aren't quite so bad for the Warning sire line, although I agree there aren't too many around. Avonbridge has started quie well, Diktat has sired the top-rated two-year-old in Dream Ahead(really hope he lives up to his promise this year). Firebreak and Winker Watson are two more I can think of.
From a purely historical perspective, I hope both the Godolphin Arabian and Byerley Turk sire lines continue to survive and thrive. Tiznow is the standard bearer for the former at the moment, but since the death of Indian Ridge, the Byerley Turk line is struggling to produce a top class stallion. Sleeping Indian, Indian Haven and Notnowcato are the three who just might get a really good 'un, as I think Namid and Compton Place have reached their level.
By:
Equimine.co.uk
When: 26 Jan 11 16:28
formboy,

Piccolo as a broodmare sire is proving about average.

His three year old average bmsire rating is 62.7 at an Impact Value of 0.88 (an IV of 1 is par). He has a 1.23% probability of being the bmsire of a 100+ rated three year old (an Impact Value of 0.27) and a 14.8% chance of getting an 80+ rated three year old ( IV of 0.49). His average is okay, but hasn't produced anything of any real quality reflected in the probabilities.

His four year old plus numbers are an average of 70.9( giving an IV of exactly 1). The 100+ probability is 5.17% (with an IV of 1.17) and an 80+ probability of 30.51% (with an IV of 1.04).

Obviously as you go into the older horse category you get higher probabilities are they have greater opportunity.
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Wilycayote
When: 26 Jan 11 18:15
Ribellaro,

You've cheered me up slightly. I forgot Firebreak, who I think did well early on from limited opportunities. I also hope Dream Ahead does well next year for Diktat. Both are good examples of Warning line stallions capable of getting a good horse.

Think Avonbridge has a chance of getting champion 3yo sprinter this year in Temple Meeds. E McMahon thinks he's a monster.
By:
formboy
When: 02 Feb 11 17:49
Equimine, thanks for the info.
I have a piccolo mare in foal, so found your stats interesting.
By:
sageform
When: 04 Feb 11 20:49
Piccolo and Kyllachy the only sires to reach 10 flat wins for 2011, Oasis Dream on 9.
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