Help needed on finding best bloodline to breed with a mare by Woodman?

Well you've got the best cross already there! (WxN)

I wouldn't be rushing to a Mr Prospector Double particularly with the not very robust Woodman perhaps.

There is plenty of evidence of success with a Danzig or Nureyev line cross. With slightly less Sadlers perhaps. Seeing that these are so dominant over here you are probably quite lucky!

Sorry for the delay D.D.

Mr Prospector is not a great place to start for soundness or a very commercial confirmation. So you would be increasing your chances of perpetuating those undesirable traits with inbreeding this way. Lord Shanakill was a sound horse mind you and the offspring of such a mating would only be 3x4 to Mr P so you need to assess any mating individually rather than being too influenced by a specific dogma.

Actually your end use for this foal will be the biggest influence on your choice and that knowledge will help people on here with their answers!

Thank you for your last reply. In the meantime, I have researched what you have said and it confirmed everything you said about Mr. Prospector line. I am now looking at first season sires for this mare from the Danzig line, such as Alfred Nobel, Starspangledbanner (even though he is a bit over budget), Arcano and showcasing, Paco Boy, and maybe a second season sire like Jeremy or Holy Romam Emperor (fee down to 10K for 2011). I want to avoid the older cheaper sire because I found that the yearlings/foals sales have been dropping in GB and IRE. I'll welcome any opinion you have about these sires.

Hi Pot.Millionaire,
Thanks again for your reply. I must admit you are right, I have followed your threads throughout this forum and did get confused at first. I should have explained that I have a couple of mares and have very recently got involved into the breeding business. So I am trying to get as much advice & gain as much knowledge from as many sources as I can. I was even advised to check out this forum.
As regards to Holy Roman Emperor, I have noticed that Ballydoyle tend to support one of their first season sire each year, but as you said he seems cold commercially and I don't believe he will be supported again in the year to come. His stud fee even dropped from 17.5k to 10k for 2011. I think Starspangledbanner might be the one they will support next season.
Some of my mares are better bred than others and I have shortlisted potentially suitable sires. Going through your comments posted in this forum, it made me investigate further whether to choose 1st or older season sires and have realised that with my budget I should stick to 1st season sires. After checking the median sales history for yearling & foals of some of the older sires over the last few years, it seems that most of the median sales have been in decline and so have their stud fees. At first, I thought the stud fees dropped only because of the recession but when I looked at the sales prior to 2008, it had already been in decline. You made me realise that what appears to be a bargain (low stud fee) could have been a disaster commercially. I am looking to sell at the foal or yearling stage.
Good match on breeding does not necessarily equate to a good commercial move. For example, I was looking at Dubai Destination for one of my mares but now I have been put off because his median sales & stud fees have been in decline:
GB/IRE Median sales yearling:
2010 = £14,286
2009 =  £8,000
2008 = £15,000
2007 = £32,175
2006 = £52,545

Foals
2010 = £800
2009 = £5,750
2008 = £4,351
2007 = £17,375
2006 = £32,000
2005 = £56,000

Stud fees:
2010 EUR 3,500
2009 GBP 7,000
2008 GBP 15,000
2007 GBP 20,000
2006 GBP 20,000
2005 GBP 20,000
2004 GBP 25,000

I use this info when looking at older sires.

Once again, thanks for your help. You speak a lot sense on this forum.

D.D. keep plugging away with your research, you'll never have too much info.
If you are a keen student I wouldn't necessarily put you off proven sires, but I would recommend you research them thoroughly.
As Prima Donna always says, a stallion by and large will cover his best mares in year one. Unless they are prepotent superstars, that is the year that will probably produce their best runners. If you think about Ifraaj for example, he is going to get a pretty good book of mares next spring. If he is an exceptional sire then he will continue to build a good record from next year onwards despite having to rely on lesser year 2, 3 & 4 mates. More likeley however, is that he has already had his best crop and year 2, 3 & 4 crops will be inferior. BUT, the mares he is about to cover may lift his record considerably so crop 5 could be superior once again.
In reality that is the lot of most proven but unexeptional sires and their crop quality will be up and down like my thermals in this weather.
So if you are prepared to research where a sire is in his cycle there is scope to take advantage and be ready to sell the year when his record is temporarily lifted once again.
Not an exact science sure, but another thing to consider perhaps. After all, even Dubai Destination enjoyed a bit of a lift at this years yearling sales according to your figures!

Not enough info to go on, but from what you have said, Green Desert has a reasonable record with Woodman mares, and as his sons are outperforming their pedigrees, he is always worth considering.

As you have Nijinsky in your mare, id look for stallions with Blushing Groom in, this encompasses a important sister to a mare in Nijinsky's pedigree that has bolstered this cross when its brought together

As for the cross itself, only 5 blacktype winners from this cross. 2 of these are sisters in Mudaarah and Ethaara and only 1 Group 1 winner from your mares cross.

Definitely consider a Northern Dancer line, perhaps with the help of a Nasrullah line stallion in to.