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revedesivola
29 Sep 10 20:57
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HI. Can anyone help me as to what makes a good horse. im very interested in breeding but persumably its more compex than getting a good nh mare in foal to a good nh stallion?

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By:
Prima Donna
When: 29 Sep 10 21:00
That generally is a good starting pointLaugh
By:
revedesivola
When: 29 Sep 10 21:09
there must be method to the best stallion to pick for a certain broodmare though is there?
By:
potentialmillionaire
When: 29 Sep 10 21:16
Plenty of method, although sometimes a pin would be as useful!

You will find it easiest to examine exactly what you want out of the process, and this will start to form your directions.

A certain type of mare will be most appropriate and the stallion will need to be compatible to those aims to give yourself the best shot.

Flesh out your objectives as best you can and people everywhere will have an opinion!
By:
revedesivola
When: 29 Sep 10 21:34
objectives are to have a high class(needless to say but then isnt everyone) 2m4 to 3m horse for chasing but hurdling for one year first. I dont mind paying quite a high price for a stallion covering and would be equally satisfied using a less prolific stallion but want a relitavely inexpensive good mare if possible
By:
Prima Donna
When: 29 Sep 10 21:37
Forgive my stupid post above I was being flippantSillyare you UK or Ireland based?
By:
revedesivola
When: 29 Sep 10 21:47
no bothers. i know theres another one coming after i answer your question!!... Im from ireland but prefer british racing!!
By:
Prima Donna
When: 29 Sep 10 21:55
Im from ireland but prefer british racing!!Shocked

If your new to the game DON'T spend big money you may think about going to the sales with some loot and buying a nice horse ready to race ie HIT sale at NMKT or getting a nice store from Fairyhouse.
If you really want to breed it is a long costly road until you have a runner,plenty of good NH sires for under 5k over here,only 2 sires worth a squeak in the UK.
By:
revedesivola
When: 29 Sep 10 22:00
new to breeding but not to racing. I like catcher in the rye
By:
Prima Donna
When: 29 Sep 10 22:08
Court Cave is a nice sire good value (1,500 euros) full bro' to Juddmonte's Beat Hollow,gets nice sorts,as I said always good not to spend too much but this sire is a sound choice for anyone esp' at that price.
By:
starspangledbanner
When: 29 Sep 10 22:13
catcher in the rye for national hunt!?
milan looks a nh sire to follow,
but at the moment i like kayf tara
By:
revedesivola
When: 29 Sep 10 22:13
and the mare... does it have to be good. i know the breeders of western leader who i believe has a poor mare?
By:
Prima Donna
When: 30 Sep 10 06:43
The mare does not have to be good in terms of being a runner herself but if she was then that's always a big help,but she needs to be from a good family and have good conformation you do not want either a midget or a giant.Another plus side for her is her sire you need a touch of class so look for a stamina sire with class ie Kahyasi or similar anyway hope this helps you in your quest to become a breeder good luck.Happy
By:
neill d
When: 30 Sep 10 12:31
That stayer who came second in the Arc, Westerner I think
By:
revedesivola
When: 30 Sep 10 13:08
yeah for national hunt starspangled
By:
Johnny_Mustang
When: 30 Sep 10 18:23
Spend a bit of money and go to King's Theatre. He gets plenty of nice bumper winners who graduate to decent hurdlers and his chasers have a bit of quality about them.
By:
cyclops
When: 01 Oct 10 15:48
reve - if you have your own land and can look after mare and foal yourself, then great. If not, costs just go up and up and, with a single mare, you would be looking at at least 15k - 20k expenditure before your horse ever sees a racecourse.
I've just bred my first (By Tobougg, out of Cee Cee Rider) and am loving the experience, but you have to factor in all of the following:
1. Stallion Fee
2. Vets fees covering all aspects of the impregnation, pregnancy and birth.
3. Transportation to and from foaling destination.
4. Weatherby's registration fees, passport, etc
5. Cost of keeping mother and foal - can't be less than £5k per annum, more if they're looked after by someone who knows what they're doing.
6. And then you put them in training, not having a clue, to that point, whether they have any ability.

Can't be justified from any angle, other than a passion for doing it, and fairly deep pockets. If you have both those things - good luck.
By:
potentialmillionaire
When: 01 Oct 10 18:56
Cyclops, I'm sure your list isn't definitive but well done for having a balanced crack at some starting costs for revedesivola and any other person in the same boat.

I am always a bit daunted when similar questions arise but I am sure your ideas are a great start! I doff my cap. . .!
By:
revedesivola
When: 01 Oct 10 19:38
have my own land and stables and come from a farming background. i realise that theres a pouplar misconception about the profits to be made from breeding. my intention would be to sell as a 3/4 year old at the sales. cyclops, have you sold your horse yet or do you plan to put (him) in training
By:
cyclops
When: 02 Oct 10 13:34
No, we want to race her if she is up to it. We're missing a year with the mare this time around (we got her in foal very late last year as she got a leg when schooling her over fences)because we don't want four foals before we discover if any of them can run. Probably put her in foal again next spring.The foal we have is very correct, but slightly small, which often occurs with a first foal. Those who know suggest that we breed from the mare again but, if another small one arrives, reconsider, as you don't want an NH mare who only produces small offspring.
By:
potentialmillionaire
When: 02 Oct 10 14:29
Cyclops a word of encouragement, if your mare had the size and scope to go chasing, I'm sure with the right sire choices she'll do you big enough foals from now on.
By:
cyclops
When: 03 Oct 10 23:01
Hopefully, that's so, pm. We'd really want an NH sire based in this country, who can inject a bit of pace into the pedigree as our mare and her half brothers were all 3 milers. Alan King suggested Tobougg to us as a sire he's very keen on, so we could go back to him next time, though the size issue might steer us towards more of a specialist NH sire.
By:
History Maker
When: 05 Oct 10 09:12
As I understand it, one small (first) foal ought not to be too much to worry about. A second, and it might be time to get the thinking caps on.
By:
megansrw
When: 06 Oct 10 21:15
What about Tikkanen?
By:
cyclops
When: 06 Oct 10 23:08
I'll look him up Megan. Don't know much about him. Can you help?
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