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Killie gods team
06 Sep 10 11:16
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I am based in Scotland and a current owner of NH horses.

Looking to buy some quality mares to breed from and race in future mainly as a hobby. Probably board them somewhere at start.

Market depressed so thought would be a good time and potentially build the thing up over time.

Really only interested in hopefully attempting to breed quality.

My initial thought was buying 1/2 stores with good pedigrees in the next 6 months to kick things off.

Initial querries

1. Any recommendations on where to board prefer closer to home.
2. What should I be looking to pay for a decent quality filly re pedigree - I thought 25-30k
3. Though a hobby do the numbers stack up comparing to buy winning pointer or good store - My view is probably not but as things recover over next 5 years at present a good entry point if trying to find a top class horse in future.

All advice welcome.

Many thanks

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By:
jonnyrotten
When: 06 Sep 10 20:59
Gordan Thom, New Hall stud in Ayr would look after you well for boarding, if thats any help
By:
Killie gods team
When: 07 Sep 10 10:10
Cheers a mate I know has a mare there also so will definetly give him a call.
By:
owner12
When: 07 Sep 10 11:39
I have a well bred filly called Poosie Nansie.
Who may be available for sale later however at the moment she is in training with A G Foster, Haddington.
Her breeding is as shown she has plenty of bone and would make an excellent brood mare, however at the moment I would rather get some black type on her before she starts breeding.
I don't suppose you would like to join, the syndicate, we are all from Ayrshire and looking for new members, it is a hobby which consists of like minded racing enthusiasts.
Poosie Nansie.

Sire  Tobougg (IRE) ,
Dam   French Quartet (IRE),
1st Dam
FRENCH QUARTET (IRE), ran a few times at 2 and 3 years;
dam of two winners from 3 runners and 6 foals of racing age viz-
THEBESTISYETTOCOME (GB) (2002 g. by Montjeu (IRE)), won 1 race at 3 years and
placed twice.
SILVER PALACE (IRE) (2001 g. by Night Shift (USA)), won 1 race at 3 years.
Toucantini (GB) (2004 f. by Inchinor (GB)), placed twice at 2 and 3 years, 2007.
National Heritage (GB) (2005 c. by High Chaparral (IRE)), in training.
(2006 f. by Sakhee (USA)).
2nd Dam
GAY FRANCE (FR), won 1 race at 2 years;
dam of eight winners from 13 runners and 15 foals of racing age including-
LUCAYAN PRINCESS (f. by High Line), won 2 races at 2 years and £11,296
including Sweet Solera Stakes, Newmarket, L., placed once viz third in Cheshire
Oaks, Chester, L., from only 4 starts; dam of winners.
LUSO (GB), 10 races at home, in Germany, in Hong Kong and in Italy and
£1,470,990 including Derby Italiano, Rome, Gr.1, Aral-Pokal, Gelsenkirchen,
Gr.1 (twice) and WGZ Bank Deutschland Preis, Dusseldorf, Gr.1, second in
Grand Prix de Saint-Cloud, Saint-Cloud, Gr.1, Prix Ganay, Longchamp, Gr.1,
Gran Premio del Jockey Club, Milan, Gr.1, Gran Premio di Milano, Milan, Gr.1
(twice), Aral-Pokal, Gelsenkirchen, Gr.1; sire.
WARRSAN (IRE), Champion older horse in Germany in 2004, Champion older
horse in Germany in 2005, 9 races at home and in Germany and £1,607,495
including Vodafone Coronation Cup, Epsom Downs, Gr.1 (twice) and Grosser
Volkswagon Preis von Baden, Baden-Baden, Gr.1 (twice), second in Coral
Eclipse Stakes, Sandown Park, Gr.1.
NEEDLE GUN (IRE), won Gallinule Stakes, Curragh, Gr.2, second in St James's
Palace Stakes, Royal Ascot, Gr.1, Derby Italiano-Trofeo Mercedes Benz,
Rome, Gr.1, Premio Presidente della Repubblica, Rome, Gr.1 (3 times) and
third in Premio Roma, Rome, Gr.1; sire.
CLOUD CASTLE (GB), 1 race, £93,333 viz Nell Gwyn Stakes, Newmarket, Gr.3,
second in Prix Vermeille, Longchamp, Gr.1 and third in Aston Upthorpe
Yorkshire Oaks, York, Gr.1; dam of QUEEN'S BEST (GB), 4 races at 2 to 4
years, 2007 and £94,934 including Winter Hill Stakes, Windsor, Gr.3, placed
second in Blandford Stakes, Curragh, Gr.2, REVERIE SOLITAIRE (IRE), 2
races in France and £72,094 including Prix Rene Bedel, Lyon-Parilly, L.,
second in Prix Minerve, Deauville, Gr.3.
Luana (GB), 3 races at 2 and 3 years, placed third in Bentinck Stakes,
Newmarket, L.; dam of HATTAN (IRE), 5 races and £342,805 including
Chester Vase, Chester, Gr.3 and Winter Derby, Lingfield Park, Gr.3, second
in Gran Premio di Milano, Milan, Gr.1, Premio Roma, Rome, Gr.1.
Lunda (IRE), ran 3 times at 3 years; dam of BLUE MONDAY (GB), 7 races at
home and in France and £738,426 including Dubai Duty Free Arc Trial,
Newbury, Gr.3 and La Coupe, Longchamp, Gr.3, third in Juddmonte
International Stakes, York, Gr.1 and Coral Eclipse Stakes, Sandown Park,
Gr.1, Lundy's Lane (IRE), 3 races at 3 years and £60,631, placed second
in Craven Stakes, Newmarket, Gr.3; also 1 race at 5 years in U.A.E. and
£127,719, placed third in Derby Italiano, Rome, Gr.1; grandam of Puggy
(IRE), 1 race at 2 years, placed second in Oh So Sharp Stakes, Newmarket,
L. and third in In Rockfel Stakes, Newmarket, Gr.2.
Maskunah (IRE), unraced; dam of Guarantia (GB), 1 race at 3 years, 2007 and
£6868, placed third in Finnforest Oh So Sharp Stakes, Newmarket, L.
Canaska Dancer (IRE) (c. by Green Desert (USA)), won 2 races at 2 years.
By:
Killie gods team
When: 07 Sep 10 12:07
Where did u purchase it from and how much and what racing plans do you have for it.
By:
owner12
When: 07 Sep 10 14:18
The horse was purchased privately from Northmore Stud, Newmarket.
Brothers sold for 130000g ,78000g & 13000g 

Check dam French Quartet on Racing post breeding look at progeny sales.

The filly has yet to run, due to having picked up a cracked heel in the spring,she is due out this autumn, she has speed so will run over 1m maiden and thereafter see how she progresses before we look at racing plan but George Foster is bullish about her ability and all at the stables say she will win races.
With her scope and stamina she is likely to go hurdling later on. She is quality AND WOULD make a good brood mare especially if we can get some black type on her.

The filly is owned by myself & another we have the filly leased to our syndicate which goes from Oct to Oct, we have still have 8 shares remaining for next year.
It would give you a chance to be involved with the filly & her racing plans especially if you were thinking of possibly breeding from her. It would also give you a chance to gain some contacts to assist your venture.
The syndicate consists of twenty people each with a 5 % share.
Joining fee £100 & thereafter the monthly cost is set at £60, this cover's training fees, racing fees & administration fees.

If interested, contact susanstienlet215@btinternet.com.
By:
yer ma
When: 07 Sep 10 16:34
May not suit but send mail to littleadie@gmail.com for information of Scottish Borders stud.  For an idea of prices - the Goffs & DBS sales this year suggest a decent store filly to race then breed or a mare not in foal is on budget but you're a bit under for a good mare in foal to decent stallion.
By:
Killie gods team
When: 07 Sep 10 16:42
Cheers thanks for this. Yep it was a mare to breed from rather than in foal that I was budgeting for so glad my numbers seem not to wildly out
By:
Black Sam Bellamy
When: 08 Sep 10 21:47
My advise to you is stay well clear of the breeding industry unless you've got very deep pockets and an abilty to bounce back from one adversity after another. The only people who make any money as far as a can see is the stud masters.
By:
Killie gods team
When: 10 Sep 10 11:07
My view that in current climate ie depressed it was an opportunity to invest and in furure years when market improves the cost of breeding my own from quality bloodlines  and racing them would be more cost effective and probably more rewarding than simply buying stores or winning ex pointers at the sales which I am doing at moment.

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