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a lot of definite possibles there.
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Gallileo 36 Kingmambo 6
Montjeu 15 Mr Greeley 2 Danehill Dancer 10 Dansili 2 Holy Roman E'r 10 Oasis Dream 1 Hurricane Run 5 Pivotal 1 Storm Cat* 4 Smart Strike 1 Sadlers Wells 3 A P Warrior 1 Johannesburg 2 First Samurai 1 Peintre Celeb 1 Encosta de lago 1 Footstepsinthesand 1 Oratorio 1 Total 89 15 = 1042yos |
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Coolmore are nearly self sufficient now, 80% of their stock is by their own stallions.Interesting they have no oratorio's despite the exploits of Beethoven / Fencing Master, no High Chaparrals, only one Footsteps, giants causeway !
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Which horses have Coolmore sent to Watchman ?
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wee sammy
Where are the other 936? |
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Sorry wee sammy,
Just seen what I think you mean. |
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looks like they've given up on the Rock
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I suppose they have,but when you think about Coolmore overall they want very commercial stallions coming on, to date The Rock has been a bit of a flop so for all the help they gave him from the start he's not really come up with enough to keep helping him, so for the Rock,he's on his own now that goes for both Footstepsinthesand and Oratorio standing for a normal fee and covering normal mares that the quality has slipped they are up against it really of getting stallion sons.So commercially and remember Coolmore are commercial these stallions have a short shelf life,Steinbeck and Beethovan are not going to set the world on fire hence the few numbers by them.Now you will see they have many by Galileo,he stands for a very high fee and had no top flight 2 y'old last year so being commercial they can see he needs help this year.He has Rip Van Winkle but to remain at a high fee needs top class 2 y'olds none of the top ten 2 y'olds from last year are his.Mountjeu has the top 2 y'old along with a couple in the top ten,the year he may have they will not expect he will need help in attracting mares for this and next season.
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no fillies montjeu ?
no high chaparrals ? |
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The Rock wasn't around 3 years ago that might explain everything easier
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Has anyone on this forum purchsed a horse out Ballydoyle we purchased a filly from there she was very well bred but done nothing on the track just wondering what ye think about purchasing from them they have some great fillys for sale each year as do most racing stables getting the right one can be hard. Alot get sold dont know were the rest go though
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They cull what they don't want. Anytime you buy any horse that's what you are getting, someones reject (other ofcourse than the genuine dispersal, when you pay over the odds for the 'genuine' bit). So you balance up how clever you think they are versus how clever you think you are and back your judgement accordingly! Sadly with an operation the size of Coolmore they do get to see a lot more horses than I do and should accordingly be better at this particular aspect of the game than I am, so I would bear that in mind when I go hunting for a bargain - but it wouldn't stop me hunting there.
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WARRIOR SONG c A P Warrior Amizette
ALEXANDER POPE c Danehill Dancer Starship CARD TRICK c Danehill Dancer Juno Madonna ORACLE c Danehill Dancer Zibilene PIRATEER c Danehill Dancer Wannabe SAMUEL MORSE c Danehill Dancer Eliza SHERWOOD FOREST c Danehill Dancer Bex SNOW MOUNTAIN c Danehill Dancer Speak Softly To Me SYDNEY HARBOUR c Danehill Dancer Amethyst (Wachman) TOM SAWYER c Dansili Cayman Sunset ZOFFANY c Dansili Tyranny RULING c Footstepsinthesand Chaturanga ADMIRAL OF THE RED c Galileo My Emma AMEN c Galileo Kitza APACHE c Galileo Charroux BRAVE HEARTED c Galileo Skidmore Girl DIOGENES c Galileo Sophisticat ENCHANTED FOREST c Galileo Halland Park Lass ESKIMO c Galileo Dietrich FIRST SEA LORD c Galileo Quiet Mouse HARRISON'S CAVE c Galileo Sitara HUMPHREY BOGART c Galileo St Roch JACKAROO c Galileo Ardbrae Lady JUNGLE BOOK c Galileo Hanami LONG LIVE THE KING c Galileo Hideaway MARKSMANSHIP c Galileo Maroochydore MOONS OF JUPITER c Galileo Jessica's Dream PAGEBOY c Galileo Last Love (Wachman) ROBIN HOOD c Galileo Banquise RODERIC O'CONNOR c Galileo Secret Garden SAM LORD'S CASTLE c Galileo Tadkiyra TREASURE BEACH c Galileo Honorine WILD WEST c Galileo Monumental Gesture GIANT STEP c Giant's Causeway Brown Eyes NANTUCKET BAY c Giant's Causeway Saudia EMPEROR HADRIAN c Holy Roman Emperor Gilded Edge HIGH AWARD c Holy Roman Emperor Tarascon (Stack) IMPERATOR AUGUSTUS c Holy Roman Emperor Coralita IMPERIAL ROME c Holy Roman Emperor Ripalong PETRONIUS MAXIMUS c Holy Roman Emperor Khamseh REX ROMANORUM c Holy Roman Emperor Willowbridge BARBICAN c Hurricane Run The Faraway Tree BAYEUX TAPESTRY c Hurricane Run Cache Creek (Fabre) FREEDOM c Hurricane Run Cute Cait MEMPHIS TREASURE c Hurricane Run Hit The Sky COMPELLING c Kingmambo Damson OCTOBER c Kingmambo Quarter Moon AUGUSTE RENOIR c Montjeu Janet BRITTANY c Montjeu Goncharova EAGLE CANYON c Montjeu Alasana ENTOURAGE c Montjeu Metaphor EXODUS c Montjeu Spacecraft JUSTIFICATION c Montjeu Colorspin MALINOWSKI c Montjeu Prove MONTE CARLO c Montjeu Catherine Linton NATIONAL FLAG c Montjeu Welsh Love PAWNEE c Montjeu Red Azalea PIRATE CHEST c Montjeu Cash Run POUR MOI c Montjeu Gwynn (Fabre) SCRIBE c Montjeu Crafty Example PARK AVENUE c Mr Greeley Song To Remember RUDOLF VALENTINO c Oasis Dream Maganda PAINT YOUR WAGON c Pivotal Dame Hester NOTION c Sadler's Wells Reina Blanca OUTRIDER c Smart Strike Adoration AZORES f Danehill Dancer Flamingo Sea (Wachman) CHRYSANTHEMUM f Danehill Dancer Well Spoken DIAMOND BROOCH f Danehill Dancer Surval SAPPHIRE PENDANT f Danehill Dancer Butterfly Blue GOODY TWO SHOES f Encosta De Lago Angelic Song AMAZING BEAUTY f Galileo Doula FOREVER MORE f Galileo Alessia IDEAL f Galileo Tarfah JUST INCREDIBLE f Galileo Mona Lisa MIST f Galileo Beauty Bright POINSETTIA f Galileo Mermaid Island PURE LUCK f Galileo Birdie SLIDE SHOW f Galileo First Exhibit (Wachman) TOGETHER f Galileo Shadow Song WHY f Galileo Rumplestiltskin CAMBINA f Hawk Wing Await (Stack) CATHERINEOFARAGON f Holy Roman Emperor Monevassia EVENING STAR f Holy Roman Emperor Rafina HOLY ALLIANCE f Holy Roman Emperor Sanctify INCA PRINCESS f Holy Roman Emperor Miletrian JULIET CAPULET f Holy Roman Emperor Royal Ballerina QUEEN OF SPAIN f Holy Roman Emperor Starlight Dreams MAUNDAYS BAY f Invincible Spirit Mystic Mile (Wachman) EMERALD RING f Johannesburg Inkling PALE MOON RISING f Kingmambo Baraka WONDER OF WONDERS f Kingmambo All Too Beautiful (Wachman) SHE'S A QUEEN f Peintre Celebre Wavey LOVE ME ONLY f Sadler's Wells Mariah's Storm (Giant's Causeway's half sister) MAKE MY HEART SING f Sadler's Wells Lyrical BALLROOM f Storm Cat Virginia Waters MEOW f Storm Cat Airwave (Wachman) SUN QUEEN f Storm Cat Fountain Of Peace GOODY TWO SHOES f Encosta De Lago Angelic Song ZVONAREAVE f Choisir Chantarella ALLIED ANSWER c Danehill Dancer Hotelgenie Dot Com ELEANOR GONZAGA f Holy Roman Emperor Dolce Divo JAMBALAYA f Holy Roman Emperor Hoodwink CHATTEL HOUSE f Aussie Rules Starring Role BROOKLYN ROSE f Danehill Dancer Makarova SPIN f Galileo Pieds De Plume EMERALD RING f Johannesburg Inkling PALE MOON RISING f Kingmambo Baraka WHY f Galileo Rumplestiltskin LOOKING GLASS BAY c Encosta De Lago Aim For The Top PORT ELIZABETH f Danehill Dancer Champaka GEMSTONE f Galileo Kincob LUXURIOUS f Galileo Parvenue COMPELLING c Kingmambo Damson EASTERN LIGHT c Danehill Dancer Nellie Nolan SLOANE STREET f Hurricane Run Daspectra EVENING STAR f Holy Roman Emperor Rafina SEVILLE c Galileo Silverskaya GIANT STEP c Giant's Causeway Brown Eyes MEMPHIS TREASURE c Hurricane Run Hit The Sky RUBY NECKLACE f Sadler's Wells Necklace ALLIED ANSWER c Danehill Dancer Hotelgenie Dot Com FIRST BATTALION c Sadler's Wells Mubkera FLAMING ARROW c Sadler's Wells Pescia PURE LUCK f Galileo Birdie CROOKED ARROW c Galileo Mythologie MUSIC IN MY HEART c Galileo Rainbow Goddess ELYSIAN HEIGHTS c Galileo Ziffany EPIC STORM c Montjeu Jaya LARGHETTO f Giant's Causeway Marquetessa QUAINTLY Giant's Causeway Measure PORTRAIT PAINTER c Giant's Causeway Rhineland GRIFFIN c Encosta De Lago Ashtarka TRADITION c Footstepsinthesand Carn Lady |
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O,Brien, seems to be getting the 2yos out early this season, a few nice ones by Galileo have already had a run.
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do they seriously have that many 2 yr olds in training?!
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They are good, Mighty, but even they have to kiss a lot of frogs before the princely stallion pops up.
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no wonder they seem clueless as to whats their derby horse recently.
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mightymoyes Joined: 28 Jul 07
Replies: 2702 01 Jun 10 00:55 do they seriously have that many 2 yr olds in training?! Well if Richard Hannon has 100, many do you think one of the worlds biggest bloodstock operations would have? 5,10...20! BTW they didnt get to were they are by been clueless |
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i didnt say they were clueless did i though, just that they were clueless about their derby horse recently. you cant really dispute that? infact galileo is the only one theyve got right in the last 10 yrs!
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mightymoyes 01 Jun 10 22:40
i didnt say they were clueless did i though, just that they were clueless about their derby horse recently. you cant really dispute that? infact galileo is the only one theyve got right in the last 10 yrs! The only one the betting market has got right, they just havnt had horses good enough but everyone gets caught up in the Ballydoyle pr headed by main sales man AOB and the junior sales man whoever the stable jockey is at the time followed by the bookies bleeding the punters dry on the back of it. The master of all these puppets is Coolmore! If a company has to have a product to sell each year they are hardly going to tell the truth when they dont have one that stands out but racing is a sport where anything can happen on the day 99.9% are regally breed so throw enough darts hit the jackpot and it is the best we have had. If all that fails call up the auld stone bruise excuse :) |