2015 Interdominion

Billies a Star doesn't want to hand the death up and comes last in heat 2.  Three maniacs post suicidal a lead time in heat 3 and presumably they trifectad for last as well.  Very enjoyable viewing so far.

Lenny I think 1.50 shot now
Great drive on Both horses tonight.
Was on big Treble with Berashari.
Im liking my 5s on Lenny

The Irish horse couldnt keep up.

Watch the Steamer tonight im on at 9s

How good was it watching Gloucester Park using one camera angle you never loose sight of your horse
the whole way.None of that head on close up sh@t most other states serve up.

You beauty Lloydy - go Steamer

Great drive and win.
He nearly back to best.
Has been doing Gym work to get right.
Very happy tonight. Cashed up

Lloydy

Quad going for Plenty.
Worst result $4330
Haven't got Zedalite only but put $150 on it

Best thing about Last night being down at the Pub with mates and they all Backed it.
I pointed out to them if Both Keyangs where in current Inter they would be 3rd and 4th pick.
That if rest of Field was they would be 25s - 50s
It is Billy is a very nice horse and i hope he does well in future.
I had 2 Keyangs in a Big Quinella but cant complain with result i got.
Im tipping if Beach Shack had of got up id still be counting

Victoria looking a good chance to have their 2nd winner in 25 years

Slim pickings over recent times but looking good so far

Since 1990 this the origin of winners:

NSW 9
WA 5
NZ 4
QLD 4
VIC 2
TAS 2 - Beautide

The hype placed on Victorian horses rarely comes to fruition but they do look to be in the box seat this year and should secure their third victory in 27 years.

what are the 2 vic winners Chariots?

Golden reign, who else

I credited Shakamaker as a Victorian.

Shaker maker, Golden Reign and Smoken up disqualified

1st Heat on at $81 Very Small Cold Major got $10 on tried $20
Weak Heat Fav anything under $2 Lay Lay Lay
2nd Heat Better than Bank Interest $1.30 Lenny, Taking Quinella and Exacta with Avonnova who last 2 runs have been better than this lot. Has the poor draw but its Bunbury not GP
3rd Heat Mach Alert as Gav wont Push Phily Man tonight wil just Nurse him into 2nd or 3rd.

Mach Beauty Dont even run on Friday Send straight home. Was a Fill up for Layers
None of those Horses will run a Place in Final

How Far will the Irish horse get Beat by tonight.
Hearty will be broken

Something must be wrong should be 1.01 Lenny

Good boy Lenny. Will be driven very quiet Friday night, doesn't need points now. Alford knows the final is the following week. Preferential barrier draw Fri night as well so expect him to just cruise around on night 3 and then crush them in the final

Thats how to Drive in the Death.

Avonnova another tough Run.
Huge run 3 wide the Trip.

No horse in this region has worked harder than Mach Beauty recently and for them to do what they did with it in the first heat was astonishing.  The thought of it running around in a 2500m heat again on Friday is beyond laughable and borderline cruel.

I am also astonished that I can't find any tip commentary online for tonights fields or last Fridays.  Unless I'm missing something (as a person who has followed harness for decades) then that's just pathetic.

Looking forward to Gav sitting back and giving PM a softish run tonight.  Would have to be an extremely slow learner to be on it IMHO but we'll see.

How Far Philly now

Shame Graham has to be the worst driver in the country

Thats why he is the Best Driver

Puppet vs Gavin on the big two, what a duel!!!

I will never, never ever understand some harness racing drivers.  Has nobody told them there's a 2500m race in 3 days and the richest race of the year 8 days after that?

Option 1:  Sit behind the favourite and get a dream easy run.  Pretty much every driver in the series would kill to get that cushy run.  You could not hope for anything better if you have the slightest hope of doing something in the final.

Option 2:  Go mega kamikaze early and finish tailed off.  Start packing from home cause the RSPCA will probably come calling if you try running again in three days.

No how many times I see decisions like this made it confounds me.

Surely something has to go wrong for anything other than Lenny or Philly to win the final? Lenny is the more bombproof for me

Shane Graham just confirmed he has no idea in the big league. Never seen anything more ridiculous, and his horse was in rubbish form going in to the race!!

Gavin Lang has got new teeth. Must be expecting to be smiling for a lot of photos !

The final is random barrier draw right?  There is ABSOLUTELY one goal and one goal only in these heats:  Make the final while doing as little work as possible.  Nobody cares about anything else.  I thought that was drummed into harness folk from primary school onwards.

James Rattray was almost as bad and should scratch his horse from the series too.  I was expecting this sort of stuff from the WA boys, not these two.

Khan it just all keeps playing into the hands of the two series favs

Yes it does.  They'll now sleepwalk through the last heat while their 'dangers' (if there were any) will have to do decent work and it will be even more game over than it already is.

Gav was certain to sit back in that race no matter how slow the leaders went.  They could have done what ever they wanted and out of hundreds of options they chose the second worst possible (galloping out, then charging back up three wide to destroy each other would have been worse).

Things could not have gone better for Gav in the heats so far.  He surely must be running out of morons willing to slaughter themselves for him but time will tell.

lol love your work Khan, couldn't agree more about the drive on Mach Alert too


and thanks Cracker, re Shakamaker

Lloydy take off the rose coloured glasses  Avonnova was a god run but sat on Lovers Delight which was three wide without cover throughout and did not beat it home.

Khan you are obviously not on Twitter because form analysis and comments in plentiful supply through that medium on the Inters.

Ill be Backing Avonnova for Consolation
I didnt say Run of Race just was a good run and i was the 1st to say he is only a Claimer and got lucky a few years ago.
I take that back and say what a great Job they have done with the horse.
Its a 1 act affair for 1st and 2nd in Final

i gave your post 5 stars lloydy


who is clear 2nd pick? surely not philly, in my view both heats have been run to suit for him

Lenny clear pick I agree with - danger My Hard Copy, has that finishing speed that often wins inter dom's

I think Philly clear 2nd pick
Classes above rest
Has Gav on
Lenny just has to turn up

Lloydy Keyang steamer in  he truer tomorrow night, what price should it be in your opinion?
I thought 2.70 was fairly generous and have had something on it at that price

Chariots, I'm not on twitter.  Have enough idiots babbling in my ear and since when do I confine myself to 140 characters?

Last heat markets seem to reflect the 'Lenny and PM will not be trying' factor but punters nearly always shrug this off and jump on anyway.  Do this at your own great risk.  In the old days these last heats were infamous for longshots trying 100% cause they're not making the final anyway and winning while the safe runners snoozed.

Avonnova looks a good bet, as does anything that isn't Devendra and especially Mach Beauty in that race who are surely toasted.

Some very good interviews with the major players available here:

http://www.perthinterdominion.com.au...-video-centre/

Lovers Delight is the other that may struggle to come up tonight, massive effort Tuesday night but how on earth do you get a horse back in 3 days after that sort of run???


The results tonight will almost certainly be overplayed by the media going into the final, you just know Gavin and Puppet will be out for the softest run possible. I almost guarantee there will be a winner of a heat tonight that people will start to talk up, without realising the big boys were not concerned with winning

Waylade can win inters for sure if he qualifys and draws well,first heat run was full of merit and excuses second heat,Devendra could also lead and win (is flying).
Shane Graham must be the worst driver in the country,disgustingly stupid drive on Mach Alert last start...

Also to note is that G.Hall jnr is the best driver of this track in Australia (no doubt at all).

Interviews are the usual meaningless fluff.  Mach Beauty 'felt good in the run' as it led, got it easy, and was being passed by half the field. Okay....

One of the things that really annoys me about harness racing is that Mach Beauty will very probably insist on leading tonight, with Avonnova outside it, which means it's a million to one of winning.  Their reasoning will be 'my horse goes best in front' and also 'that's what we always do'.  One seconds thought makes it screamingly obvious that the horse is desperate for an easy run tonight and behind Avonnova would be absolutely ideal to give it any hope of doing anything on final night but.... you're dreaming.

They will probably insist on leading, finish bottom three, and have absolutely zero horse left for Sunday week.  I find the lack of brainpower that goes into these decisions very painful to watch when money is involved so won't be betting in that race.

As for Keayang Steamer at Bankstown he obviously looks superbly placed, however the Bankstown track appears to operate in an alternate universe (some horses just don't handle it), and the Trueur is notorious for being a race where 2/3 of the field feel obliged to make a move at some point.  In no way should you bet on this race expecting KS will lead or death seat and control the race for an easy win,  the leaders are always made to earn it.  Will be great to watch for sure.

Steamer 1.50
Only Drivers in Syd can get it beat.
Load up Brothers but ill never get a price like last week in such a weak race

Im doing it again like last 2 heats but only $100
All Up Lenny into Phily

Steamer grades above those

Just Landed in Gold Coast
Will watch Replays soon.
Steamer is just an ATM Machine.
Serious it was weaker than last week.
I was close 1.50 was overs at 1.65
I only got $2.20 thanks to Aussie as i didnt know was running.
Lost my $100 on Lenny but Backing up Philly Man.
Frith she is to good, havent watched race yet. I was lucky as i would of backed Berashari but plane delayed

Backing Avonova and Philly Man but cashed up for weekend

Sorry it was Lets who let me know
Thanks
I would never of checked Bankstown and on a Friday night.

Phily Man just a Run
Had every chance.
But expect to be fully right final night.
Still Declaring the Shark

Catch up

Sorry Henry,

Just up to see my Mum and Sister for Xmas.
No Internet where i am

All good ,,funny just saw you on was going to ask...

In Melbourne on 16 December so maybe then (unless you in Sydney tomorrw and Tuesday)...can introduce you to others in your industry

Cheers

At moment all over shot
Perth next week then Singapore then Hong Kong then Bali for NYE then Thailand to get my teeth done

Lenny draws 3

Lovers Delight holding from 1

Waylade 2 - 1 x 1 prob

Philadelphia man - 4 - tough from there?

Devendra 8 and My Hard Copy 9 - swoop if crazy pace

1. Lovers Delight
5.50
2. Waylade
5.50
3. Lennytheshark
2.00
4. Philadelphia Man
6.50
5. Our Blackbird NZ
61.00
6. Libertybelle Midfrew
61.00
7. Avonnova
51.00
8. Devendra
10.00
9. My Hard Copy
17.00
10. Flaming Flutter
26.00
11. Major Crocker (EM1)
41.00
12. Blazin N Cullen (EM2)
41.00

To me Gav vs Alford still
Gav is to good of a Driver to get lost on Philly man could be on Lennys Back while Lenny in Death and i dont think he will give up.
N Jack got lost on the Mare last week, please put Gav on and Load up

If the parade draw draws to lead it will just about win, don't say you weren't told.

Sorry that was directed to you lloydy.

Only 4 possibles in the Inter final after the draw.

Lovers Delight obviously leads (as aggressively declared) and that gives him a hope. Waylade has a great draw, Hall will end up where Alford wants him to, but either way he will be in the fight. Philly Man has a great draw, no decision at all to make for Lang, just drops in behind Waylade and Lenny and gets a lovely sit. He might be the biggest winner from the draw.

The only one of those with a decision to make is Alford, can push past Waylade and breeze, or drop straight on to its back. The danger with the first is you have Waylade and Philly Man getting the drop on you, the danger with the second is they go too slow and Lovers Delight only has to run a half, and you might not get him.

The rest just can't win the way the draw has fallen for mine.

Lenny should win, he is the best horse without doubt, but I suspect his draw is the trickiest of the 4 remaining hopes

So now that people have figured out it leads, this goes there, that sits here etc
Does that mean we get a cleansed Inter Final,whereby no one does anything no one makes any moves,no one attacks?(at their own detriment?)
or
Do we get kamikaze's from the jump or backmarkers saying I can't beat those up front but i definitely won't get anywhere sitting back here ?

Eightball,

Anything can happen.
It just does look on paper 1 to lead and Lenny to Death and wont give up or Lenny gets front off 1
I can even see Waylade on back of Lovers Delight and hope for luck if they come out humming and Flaming Flutter cant hold back.
Devendra has to play for luck as cant see using up at start.

What are the security arrangements for the final?

The More Juice the Bigger chance you have.

lol Lloydy

have figured out it leads, this goes there, that sits here etc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPu5KKrvp3I

Free Upgrade to Business. Thanks Virgin.
Now Lenny and Nike Franco get up and its a Fill up

Thanks Virgin.

You are talking abput the airline ...right??

Lloydy your old horse Ronald George is close to back to his best

Never really fired in QLD but his last two runs at Penrith have been first rate

Expect him to keep winning IMO - showing a great sprint at the moment

Craig,

I wanted to claim him and send him to Adelaide
good luck to new owners hope they have a lot of fun with him
Perfect day in Scarborough today

Laying Hectorjay today
Wont lose much if wins 1st up from a stand, distance and Peacocks is jumping a mile in class but big wraps

Sometimes its just a little to easy

If u lived in WA u wouldn't know it was on. Papers don't even have a Race guide.
Nobody here.
1.01 they will do it Friday night next year.
Go Lenny

Twitter is where all the action is apparently Lloydy.

Mach Beauty finished distant last in the consolation and Mach Alert doesn't even start in it.  Who couldn't see that coming after their antics in the heats.

On the other hand I was astonished by how well Devendra went last start, after the kamikaze run it had.  Freakish win.

Tailed off Menin Gate...  It joins the long list of eastern horses who head over there as budding stars and return as shattered husks.

Absolutely brained them, pure dominance.

Love ya Lenny

Lennys from heaven.

Go Lenny and Nike Franco.
Did declare both of them.
Fill up.
I need Business class on way home just to take the Cash home

Well done Lloydy, you get plenty right that's for sure

U went to WA hey and disappointed with the crowd and mainstream coverage

Over here the mainstream coverage was close to non existent

Sky did a great job (as I thought did GP / RWWA) but where is promotion by the national body Harness Racing Australia of their flagship event?

Can one imagine the Aust Cricket Board doing no promotion for a Test match?

PS - I know he is that sort of horse that needs luck but gee I wish My Hard Copy got out at the 300

runs into the back of tiring Philly, dragged right back to last, goes wide on track blocked, dragged back to the inside and runs on well again a wall loomed in front of him

Would u believe I got in the nugget consession 1.50 the winner and consession Lenny 2.20.
I put many bets on to get.
Promo $50 fixed odds money back if run 2nd or 3rd.
Greatest promo I have ever seen. And both horses won so even better.
Still counting.
Great day. Just a **** day to do it. Friday night is GP night. Don't change it.
People will come all over Aus. On a Sunday they won't come.
Showed it today. Empty.

WD Lloydy

Over here the mainstream coverage was close to non existent

where is promotion by the national body Harness Racing Australia of their flagship event?

I had no interest in the event and can understand why many other eastern state punters had little interest....no fizz or sparkle to get me in ....something needs to be done to generate interest  if i had no interest then well something need to be done

well in some ways Henry I think there must be little interest from you in the sport because if you had of watched the heats I don't see how you would think there was no fizz?

The racing itself was not the problem it was the lack of any promotion outside of the WA organisers and Sky


Serious question but what fizz would have got you interested?

Dec 13, 2015 -- 7:37AM, Craig The Speculator wrote:

PS - I know he is that sort of horse that needs luck but gee I wish My Hard Copy got out at the 300runs into the back of tiring Philly, dragged right back to last, goes wide on track blocked, dragged back to the inside and runs on well again a wall loomed in front of him

Poor drive by Clint IMO.......if he sticks to the fence down the back straight he runs 4th clearly & perhaps in a photo for a podium position.

I think there must be little interest from you in the sport because if you had of watched the heats I don't see how you would think there was no fizz?

Agreed..didnt even bother watching the heats...


it was the lack of any promotion outside of the WA organisers and Sky

Agreed

what fizz would have got you interested?

The thought of rivalry between foes etc....seemed to me just to be the standard of a "free for all" class

Lenny was always top pick and winner before the heats started...Yawnnnn

Can anyone seriously say anything could beat it ... nothing in any of the B graders  really was ever going to win (Philly a B + /A- horse)

Dont think anyone here picked anything else ..so perhaps thats the proof...

[i]Aussie Driver 01 Dec 15 11:28 Joined: 08 Nov 04 | Topic/replies: 14,681 | Blogger: Aussie Driver's blog

Surely something has to go wrong for anything other than Lenny or Philly to win the final? Lenny is the more bombproof for me[/i]

Summed up perfectly by Aussie 12 days before the final...really what many many many also thought and expected.....

Thanks Henry

Trotman it ironically was Waylade the stablemate that dragged him back to last not Philly as I said earlier.

I can't blame Clint it just didn't work out.

If Waylade and Philly didn't under perform they could have taken My Hard Copy into the race and who knows.

Definitely capable of peeling off faster sectionals than even the winner came home in

Shut up about it Craig please, for  god sake why tell everyone and we may be some chance of getting on at the right price in the Pacing or Freo Cups.

was brutal Lets - not even a mention in the stewards report will help the price next time tho

no interest is right henry. as they were scoring up there was only a few bucks over 100k in both victab pool and the matched total on betty. hard to believe but that is trots 2015... next up is gallops imo.

The trots are on life support with no long term future. The die hards know it but do not want to accept it.

Trotlover with u there on that.
The people running it are to Old and need New younger Blood.
I think Perth are doing ok be great if they could make track 200mt bigger
Was mistake on a Sunday.
Maybe start it 5:00pm on the Friday night.
There is no Traffic in Perth.

My mate went for the Job in Vic 3 years ago.
Knows all about Harness, Gun at Marketing they said he had a great application but wasnt what they wanted, they hire Old people who think its still the 80s

that's a big call from you Trotlover, being that you are a trotlover

I'm a bit more optimistic - still a hell of a lot bet across all the fixed odds and totes

It may only make up 11 or 12% of total racing pool but that's still a lot of dollars

still a hell of a lot bet across all the fixed odds and totes

Curiously is this from

1. Trot-lovers
2. Rank and file punters
3. Mugs who would bet on flies on the wall
3. Smart money
4. Market manipulators
5. Lloydy himself...




Personally imo there is toooooooo much perceived rorting (I might be wrong) I might refrain.....toooo many suspicious driving activity (could just be plain old negligence) ...for me to take punting on trots seriously.....

Nevertheless ironically prefer night at trots than a day at the gallops track. yet from punting angle I have to pass on the trots.

So perhaps there is hope yet !!

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Shut up about it Craig please, for  god sake why tell everyone and we may be some chance of getting on at the right price in the Pacing or Freo Cups.

Hope you got plenty Lets - been flying and thoroughly deserved it's WA Pacing Cup win

Next leg of the Grand Circuit is the Vic Cup ... great race and time to find the winner as we will all get a price if we are on early. Thoughts?

Well Done also to Craig and Lets (assuming you were on which Im pretty sure you were !!!)

Yankee Uniform

I was on strong eachway in both cups Craig and there's no doubt in my mind if Boaz doesn't get a birthday in front it wins the Fremantle cup as well. If it arrives over there in good order it will run well in the Victoria and Hunter Cups if it goes that way as it's gone up another level again at it's last few starts.

Cant win in Vic
Will even struggle to run a place
Nzrs are here and Lenny is back
Just making up numbers any horse from WA

Well done Lets, agree 100%

Lloydy, been one dimensional but defied that to win last week - if any race is run to suit I think it can be very competitive, be interesting how it plays out - always respect your Group 1 opinion

Thanks Yankee