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Last night UK...the flats are back so I allocated 3 hours.
During the course of the night UK's up and coming horse KINGMAN won as expected.....yet forum discussion was on his easing price.
This scenario bore resemblance to LANKAN RUPEE ...being 4 ish on betfair despite being the number 1 ranked horse-sprinter in the world when it won like an even money shot.
I posted a comment similar to one I posted (Aus) previously which had little response.
Last night UK...the flats are back so I allocated 3 hours.
During the course of the night UK's up and coming horse KINGMAN won as expected.....yet forum discussion was on his easing price.
This scenario bore resemblance to LANKAN RUPEE ...being 4 ish on betfair despite being the number 1 ranked horse-sprinter in the world when it won like an even money shot.
I posted a comment similar to one I posted (Aus) previously which had little response.
Perhaps time for discussion...for those interested in the world of "Opposite Day":
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UK post
Homer and others:
"Why wasn't this backed off the boards, went from 2.8 ish to 3.4 BSP? Horses are a complete puzzle sometimes."
This is the bots at work ...programmed to buy sell buy sell to ease the price out so the other true betting houses follow.
What is often (very often) forgotten is that betfair is a trading exchange not a bookmaker or Totalizator and can as such be manipulated by bots.
"An Internet bot, also known as web robot, WWW robot or simply bot, is a software application that runs automated tasks over the Internet.......In addition to their uses outlined above, bots may also be implemented where a response speed faster than that of humans is required (e.g., gaming bots"
The days of true supply / demand and true price fluctuations are over ......
During the course of the night UK's up and coming horse KINGMAN won as expected.....yet forum discussion was on his easing price.
This scenario bore resemblance to LANKAN RUPEE ...being 4 ish on betfair despite being the number 1 ranked horse-sprinter in the world when it won like an even money shot.
I posted a comment similar to one I posted (Aus) previously which had little response.
Last night UK...the flats are back so I allocated 3 hours.
During the course of the night UK's up and coming horse KINGMAN won as expected.....yet forum discussion was on his easing price.
This scenario bore resemblance to LANKAN RUPEE ...being 4 ish on betfair despite being the number 1 ranked horse-sprinter in the world when it won like an even money shot.
I posted a comment similar to one I posted (Aus) previously which had little response.
Perhaps time for discussion...for those interested in the world of "Opposite Day":
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
UK post
Homer and others:
"Why wasn't this backed off the boards, went from 2.8 ish to 3.4 BSP? Horses are a complete puzzle sometimes."
This is the bots at work ...programmed to buy sell buy sell to ease the price out so the other true betting houses follow.
What is often (very often) forgotten is that betfair is a trading exchange not a bookmaker or Totalizator and can as such be manipulated by bots.
"An Internet bot, also known as web robot, WWW robot or simply bot, is a software application that runs automated tasks over the Internet.......In addition to their uses outlined above, bots may also be implemented where a response speed faster than that of humans is required (e.g., gaming bots"
The days of true supply / demand and true price fluctuations are over ......
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Is that the answer to my second confusion....or my "while I'm waiting" question.....or both? 
and these are the easy ones. THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
Hmmm, ok....I'll take this one confusion at a time. Blush
[i]As Tina Turner said......What's DaJudge got do do with it?
I understand Spy is a friend of his, he told me so.
Is that it?
or......?[/i]
spyvspy27
Judge sometimes posts as spyvspy27
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON's blog
Hoorah! Tx for the clarification.
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2nd one was;
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
Good start.
Next:
You really shouldn't hand your log in details over tbh. No doubt you will catch up at some point what has been happening in your account.....
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Same answer?
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
Good start.
Next:
You really shouldn't hand your log in details over tbh. No doubt you will catch up at some point what has been happening in your account.....
???Same answer?
You really shouldn't hand your log in details over tbh. No doubt you will catch up at some point what has been happening in your account....
???
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It's on Page 2
BJT
Date Joined: 30 Oct 04
15 Apr 14 14:49
I'll be back with questions about "true markets" tomorrow
cheers
BJT
Date Joined: 30 Oct 04
15 Apr 14 14:49
I'll be back with questions about "true markets" tomorrow
cheers
.......demonstration of some of the different options and strategies to offset losses after the bet at lower odds to those laid....to force odds out (ease) using "batches" where a sum of money is disbursed over time.etc etc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_JhGo-nU3M
I have attached this demo (one of many) to help understand the remarkable world of bots .
This is the simplest of bots (a bot for scalping) ...if anyone has an idea for a bot we can try and create one as a team (using team ideas). The betangel platform is the only one I have access to...(unless someone has another we can use). I would luv to share some innovative bots I have come across and perhaps others have some interesting and rewarding ideas also ...but one step at a time I guess.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_JhGo-nU3M
I have attached this demo (one of many) to help understand the remarkable world of bots .
This is the simplest of bots (a bot for scalping) ...if anyone has an idea for a bot we can try and create one as a team (using team ideas). The betangel platform is the only one I have access to...(unless someone has another we can use). I would luv to share some innovative bots I have come across and perhaps others have some interesting and rewarding ideas also ...but one step at a time I guess.
Second Coming I would like to hear more info on :
"the ZR bots are a little more complicated than just lay unders/back overs...they both both sides for most runners....creating market prices and respecting certain moves....watch very carefully....the algorithms he has got are amazing..."
"the ZR bots are a little more complicated than just lay unders/back overs...they both both sides for most runners....creating market prices and respecting certain moves....watch very carefully....the algorithms he has got are amazing..."
henryluca • April 17, 2014 4:24 AM BST
Second Coming I would like to hear more info on :
"the ZR bots are a little more complicated than just lay unders/back overs...they both both sides for most runners....creating market prices and respecting certain moves....watch very carefully....the algorithms he has got are amazing...
Laying unders and backing overs is what its all about Henry and thats what his amazing algorithms are used to determine.
Second Coming I would like to hear more info on :
"the ZR bots are a little more complicated than just lay unders/back overs...they both both sides for most runners....creating market prices and respecting certain moves....watch very carefully....the algorithms he has got are amazing...
Laying unders and backing overs is what its all about Henry and thats what his amazing algorithms are used to determine.
Thanks Spy...sounds like a very basic bot....must be more than that to have a special name like ZR sounds like something from Star Wars....can anyone access the platform used I wonder.
Spy... Any ideas for a bot /program other than simple scalping of unders and overs
Here is another simple one I used to do...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOmK7dQqnR4
Spy... Any ideas for a bot /program other than simple scalping of unders and overs
Here is another simple one I used to do...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOmK7dQqnR4
Learn how to frame a market first, no bot can help if your prices are up sh?t creek without a paddle,
I'm no help to you Henry as I don't use a bot.
Earlycrow is correct in what he says about accurate market. It's not ZR's bot but his price accuracy thats the crucial part of his setup.
Earlycrow is correct in what he says about accurate market. It's not ZR's bot but his price accuracy thats the crucial part of his setup.
lol. Of course it can. You don't need to be able to frame a market to be able to have a profitable automated betting platform...
The carp that some people speak is baffling. Out of all the bots on BF, I would suggest the number of them that have anything to do with framing a market is a very small number in the single digit range.
The carp that some people speak is baffling. Out of all the bots on BF, I would suggest the number of them that have anything to do with framing a market is a very small number in the single digit range.
Apr 17, 2014 -- 4:22AM, henryluca wrote:
.......demonstration of some of the different options and strategies to offset losses after the bet at lower odds to those laid....to force odds out (ease) using "batches" where a sum of money is disbursed over time.etc etchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_JhGo-nU3MI have attached this demo (one of many) to help understand the remarkable world of bots .This is the simplest of bots (a bot for scalping) ...if anyone has an idea for a bot we can try and create one as a team (using team ideas). The betangel platform is the only one I have access to...(unless someone has another we can use). I would luv to share some innovative bots I have come across and perhaps others have some interesting and rewarding ideas also ...but one step at a time I guess.
You are yet to show us a bot that has anything to do with "ease"ing a price.... Or moving it in any direction at all....
BJT ... I dont have a bot that does that...I can (I believe) understand the basics of one only ..understand a concept ...I just dont seem to be able to articulate (the concept) in a way many (you) can understand..I will try again tomorrow ish ... I am very very confident there are ones simply because of very well structured patterns that appear in some instances of easing prices and for that matter firming prices....they definitely appear "programme driven".\\
I think many underestimate the mathematics (algorithms)used in internet driven trading ....
These days I am "pattern driven" in my decision to lay a horse ...often happy to pick up the 20% (div. 6) to say 8 % (div.13). ..Becomes a game of snakes and ladders trying to hit say 10 successful lays to get to 100% of committed exposure....before hitting a snakes head....so I have stopped ..6 or so months ago with trying to get a successful (for me ) bot to work
I just thought if we all bounced ideas around we could decide on some concepts and program using betangel platform (or any other),,,something to do on week days ....while we play the waiting game....
Having said all that maybe I should create a UK thread to invite successful bot program suggestions and then bring here......or maybe no one is interested .......
Ahhhh the simple days where the TAB ladies would simply write out the ticket!!
I think many underestimate the mathematics (algorithms)used in internet driven trading ....
These days I am "pattern driven" in my decision to lay a horse ...often happy to pick up the 20% (div. 6) to say 8 % (div.13). ..Becomes a game of snakes and ladders trying to hit say 10 successful lays to get to 100% of committed exposure....before hitting a snakes head....so I have stopped ..6 or so months ago with trying to get a successful (for me ) bot to work
I just thought if we all bounced ideas around we could decide on some concepts and program using betangel platform (or any other),,,something to do on week days ....while we play the waiting game....
Having said all that maybe I should create a UK thread to invite successful bot program suggestions and then bring here......or maybe no one is interested .......
Ahhhh the simple days where the TAB ladies would simply write out the ticket!!
Bots for dummies is what BJT is referring to Henry, again for the dummies (BJT & Co) all ZR's work is on getting his market as accurate as possible
Paste of UK thread I just created
Bot ideas using betangel or other platforms ...
henryluca
henryluca 17 Apr 14 09:52 Joined: 27 May 10 | Topic/replies: 373 | Blogger: henryluca's blog
"I am Aus and trying to think outside square for a bot using betangel...Is anyone been successful and if so do you have any tips (without giving any secrets away)..
I would like to generate interest with some friends . I am familiar with Betangel platform ....
Also does anyone believe there are bots that can cause horses to ease or firm (regardless of interim loss ) for purposes of say, other market framers to follow suit....
Or are there particularly clever ideas for bots that maybe friends and I can think about...
Cheers"
Bot ideas using betangel or other platforms ...
henryluca
henryluca 17 Apr 14 09:52 Joined: 27 May 10 | Topic/replies: 373 | Blogger: henryluca's blog
"I am Aus and trying to think outside square for a bot using betangel...Is anyone been successful and if so do you have any tips (without giving any secrets away)..
I would like to generate interest with some friends . I am familiar with Betangel platform ....
Also does anyone believe there are bots that can cause horses to ease or firm (regardless of interim loss ) for purposes of say, other market framers to follow suit....
Or are there particularly clever ideas for bots that maybe friends and I can think about...
Cheers"
Henry....do yourself a favour and ask this question on the Bet Angel Forum.....loads of lads on there that really know what they are talking about and will be happy to help you.
Plenty of threads on the subject on there.
W
Plenty of threads on the subject on there.
W
Would spare the rest of us from being bored sh1tless by Bluffer......
http://www.betangel.com/forum/index.php
http://www.betangel.com/forum/index.php
Agree with that. You are much better off asking on a forum where people understand what you are talking about. Most on here don't have even the simplest concept of what a market is made up of no matter how much they preach about being able to "frame" one....
Apr 17, 2014 -- 9:53AM, spyvspy27 wrote:
Bots for dummies is what BJT is referring to Henry, again for the dummies (BJT & Co) all ZR's work is on getting his market as accurate as possible
Is "ZR"s bot the only one on Betfair? Is that the link that henry showed us? ZR uses 10 pound stakes?
I am way under you judge. I in no way saw how he programmed that bot based on his assessed prices on the market he framed......
You're a complete fool BJT, I bet you subscribe to the branch of mathematics made famous by Jethro Clampett in The Beverley Hillbillies, you know the one where 2+2=5
Good argument. If you don't have a valuable contribution, just call somebody stupid.
Well done.
Well done.
A bit like you when I asked you if market was as accurate as you say it is, why are some punters paying the PC, your answer was if you got 2.20 about a 2.00 pop. If that wasn't the dumbest answer ever given on this forum, its fkn close, Oh I almost forgot, you also said they don't bet in all markets, another gem of an answer
Also i was being serious, you're not using the 2+2=4 that i'm using, and I thank the Lord for that
Also i was being serious, you're not using the 2+2=4 that i'm using, and I thank the Lord for that
Yes, a religious nut that thinks he has all the answers.
Surprise surprise....
Surprise surprise....
This is the formula that i use......... y2 = x (x − ap)(x + bp) a2 + b2 = c2,an + bn = cn xp + yp = zp 
y2+%3D+x+%28x+−+ap%29%28 x+%2B+bp%29+a2+%2B+b2+%3D+c2,an+%2B+bn+%3D+cn+xp+%2B+yp%3D+zp......on sundays.
Apr 17, 2014 -- 11:28AM, spyvspy27 wrote:
A bit like you when I asked you if market was as accurate as you say it is, why are some punters paying the PC, your answer was if you got 2.20 about a 2.00 pop. If that wasn't the dumbest answer ever given on this forum, its fkn close, Oh I almost forgot, you also said they don't bet in all markets, another gem of an answer Also i was being serious, you're not using the 2+2=4 that i'm using, and I thank the Lord for that
No wonder you don't understand if that is the extent of your mathematical ability.
You are old news. Just like the black and white television shows you like to reference.... As if half of us know wtf you are even talking about...
If you're new news again I thank the Lord i'm not like you.
You give a hypothetical answer because you would rather give that than say you have NFI, which you don't btw
You give a hypothetical answer because you would rather give that than say you have NFI, which you don't btw
You are right. I am completely baffled by how it is possible to pay PC.... 
Hope things pick up for you. Maybe the next database you buy won't be simply a database of naked "ZR" pictures.....
Hope things pick up for you. Maybe the next database you buy won't be simply a database of naked "ZR" pictures.....
Maybe I need to build up to 2+2 to be able to figure it out. Far too complex if that is the case....
You are showing off your stupidity again, or is it ignorance, I have never ever bought a database.
Also you're better off just sticking to 2+2=5, ok Jethro
Also you're better off just sticking to 2+2=5, ok Jethro
So when you were begging everybody to give you 2k for a database that you yourself just had to buy because it was such a bargain, you were indeed full of siht?
But you aren't now? Am I keeping up?
But you aren't now? Am I keeping up?
You total fkn imbecile, I said he was selling it, I also told you I had no need for it because I had my own setup, and I did tell you that, so now you fkn lie.
Also I didn't beg you, merely told you it was for sale, not by me but by the person I mentioned, also told you he was originally asking 6k for it, but dropped price to 2k, thought you might be interested as you seemed to talk the talk on the forum, but then you said you were going bad and didn't have 2k at the moment, not the impression you gave in your posts on the forum, ie going in large on this, going in large on that, then again large for some people is $6.00 ffs, guess thats you Jethro, or is it Jeffro ffs
Also I didn't beg you, merely told you it was for sale, not by me but by the person I mentioned, also told you he was originally asking 6k for it, but dropped price to 2k, thought you might be interested as you seemed to talk the talk on the forum, but then you said you were going bad and didn't have 2k at the moment, not the impression you gave in your posts on the forum, ie going in large on this, going in large on that, then again large for some people is $6.00 ffs, guess thats you Jethro, or is it Jeffro ffs
Please c+p my PM's to you re database where I was begging you or as you put it everybody.
I sent a PM to you, to the elephant and also to Veryltu as a favour to person selling it, so 3 people constitute everybody? 1stly Veryltu and the elephant are somebody, but you're a fkn wannabe nobody ffs
I sent a PM to you, to the elephant and also to Veryltu as a favour to person selling it, so 3 people constitute everybody? 1stly Veryltu and the elephant are somebody, but you're a fkn wannabe nobody ffs
BJT • April 15, 2014 3:10 PM BST
I am going to need it. Apparently I have been wasting my time for the last decade...... Maybe I should aspire to be like your mate who was apparently one of the best. What sort of strike rate did he have? Much better than 20% I hear.
Haven't seen him around for a while though...........
I would say you most definitely have if you couldn't afford 2k as you were going through a bad trot, and you did say if it was 6 months earlier that you would have been in the position to buy it, or maybe you were lying about not being able to afford 2k?
I am going to need it. Apparently I have been wasting my time for the last decade...... Maybe I should aspire to be like your mate who was apparently one of the best. What sort of strike rate did he have? Much better than 20% I hear.
Haven't seen him around for a while though...........
I would say you most definitely have if you couldn't afford 2k as you were going through a bad trot, and you did say if it was 6 months earlier that you would have been in the position to buy it, or maybe you were lying about not being able to afford 2k?
Or maybe i'm lying and you never said you couldn't afford 2k
I did indeed say I didn't have a spare 2k to throw at a database when I was getting one done to my specs for about 250 bucks already.
From spyvspy27 on Jan 15, 10:46AM:
He has cut the price to 2k for database, at 2k I am buying 1 even though I don't need it, just that it is super value, if you would also like a copy or a look at it, give me your email address to pass on to STS and he can send it to you and give you log in details so you cna see what it does
Say whatever you like mate. It is there plain as day you telling me you were buying it because it was too good to refuse....
Spin, spin fcuking spin away old man....
There is a massive difference to having 2k, to having 2k to throw at something on the word of some random guy on the internet.
spyvspy27 • April 17, 2014 2:49 PM BST
You total fkn imbecile, I said he was selling it, I also told you I had no need for it because I had my own setup, and I did tell you that, so now you fkn lie.
Umm no, because I never said you didn't say that.
From spyvspy27 on Jan 15, 10:46AM:
He has cut the price to 2k for database, at 2k I am buying 1 even though I don't need it, just that it is super value, if you would also like a copy or a look at it, give me your email address to pass on to STS and he can send it to you and give you log in details so you cna see what it does
Say whatever you like mate. It is there plain as day you telling me you were buying it because it was too good to refuse....
Spin, spin fcuking spin away old man....
There is a massive difference to having 2k, to having 2k to throw at something on the word of some random guy on the internet.
spyvspy27 • April 17, 2014 2:49 PM BST
You total fkn imbecile, I said he was selling it, I also told you I had no need for it because I had my own setup, and I did tell you that, so now you fkn lie.
Umm no, because I never said you didn't say that.
Poor old man in damage control.
spyvspy27 • April 17, 2014 12:01 PM BST
You are showing off your stupidity again, or is it ignorance, I have never ever bought a database.
Also you're better off just sticking to 2+2=5, ok Jethro Laugh
From spyvspy27 on Jan 15, 10:46AM:
He has cut the price to 2k for database, at 2k I am buying 1 even though I don't need it, just that it is super value, if you would also like a copy or a look at it, give me your email address to pass on to STS and he can send it to you and give you log in details so you cna see what it does
spyvspy27 • April 17, 2014 12:01 PM BST
You are showing off your stupidity again, or is it ignorance, I have never ever bought a database.
Also you're better off just sticking to 2+2=5, ok Jethro Laugh
From spyvspy27 on Jan 15, 10:46AM:
He has cut the price to 2k for database, at 2k I am buying 1 even though I don't need it, just that it is super value, if you would also like a copy or a look at it, give me your email address to pass on to STS and he can send it to you and give you log in details so you cna see what it does
He fkn gave me a copy, did you want me to say that?also danehill123 can confirm because he was also had a look at it. Before you say I didn't mention danehill123 is because I contacted him via email not PM
spyvspy27 • April 15, 2014 3:16 PM BST
Well I think there is a very good chance you have been wasting your time, can't put a price it to 100% though
STS is no longer on the forum, but he would run rings around you with his eyes closed
Report• Quote • Block User spyvspy27 • April 15, 2014 3:20 PM BST
FYI he has kicked again and starting to go well again, i'm sure that pleases you
You never heard of anyone being short of cash and selling things cheap to raise some cash ffs? Maybe even you have run short
Wonder why it is still for sale....... Hmmmm
Way passed your bed time old man....
Well I think there is a very good chance you have been wasting your time, can't put a price it to 100% though
STS is no longer on the forum, but he would run rings around you with his eyes closed
Report• Quote • Block User spyvspy27 • April 15, 2014 3:20 PM BST
FYI he has kicked again and starting to go well again, i'm sure that pleases you
You never heard of anyone being short of cash and selling things cheap to raise some cash ffs? Maybe even you have run short
Wonder why it is still for sale....... Hmmmm
Way passed your bed time old man....
I wasn't asking anyone for money you goose, I told the selling price, and IF YOU WERE INTERESTED I WOULD PUT YOU IN CONTACT WITH HIM SO YOU COULD HAVE A LOOK AT IT, THAT IS NOT ASKING FOR MONEY YOU FKHEAD.
He is doing better now, that doesn't mean he is flying ffs, so yes he is still selling copies. Yes he was short of cash when he was trying badly to sell database, I think that was around January, he is doing better now, is thee anything wrong with that?
Only thing I bull**** about is buying a copy when I got 1 for free, thats a bad one
He is doing better now, that doesn't mean he is flying ffs, so yes he is still selling copies. Yes he was short of cash when he was trying badly to sell database, I think that was around January, he is doing better now, is thee anything wrong with that?
Only thing I bull**** about is buying a copy when I got 1 for free, thats a bad one
And re the run rings around you, that would be with his eyes closed
From BJT on Jan 17, 02:43AM:
Ouch. If I didn't just fork over money for mine, I would have. Honestly, I don't have the 2 grand to spend on it at the minute.
BJT • April 17, 2014 3:27 PM BST
I did indeed say I didn't have a spare 2k to throw at a database when I was getting one done to my specs for about 250 bucks already.
But you said if you didn't fork out money for yours you would have bought it, you didn't have the 2k because you just paid for yours, but now we find out yours only cost $250
Hey Jeffro theres that maths of yours again, Even if you didn't fork out for yours, you would still be $1750 short ffs
Ouch. If I didn't just fork over money for mine, I would have. Honestly, I don't have the 2 grand to spend on it at the minute.
BJT • April 17, 2014 3:27 PM BST
I did indeed say I didn't have a spare 2k to throw at a database when I was getting one done to my specs for about 250 bucks already.
But you said if you didn't fork out money for yours you would have bought it, you didn't have the 2k because you just paid for yours, but now we find out yours only cost $250
Hey Jeffro theres that maths of yours again, Even if you didn't fork out for yours, you would still be $1750 short ffs
That maths that says if I have just got exactly what I wanted, that does exactly what I want it to do, for BJT • April 17, 2014 3:52 PM BST I did erroneously suggest it cost me 250 when it was 250 pounds though. My bad..... then it would be a ridiculous decision to spend 4 times that on something I would have to reprogram anyway?
lol
lol
J.R.Hartley • April 17, 2014 4:18 PM BST
You can buy mine for 20 dollars...
Will you let Jeffro or bluffer as you call him pay it off in 4 easy instalments?
You can buy mine for 20 dollars...
Will you let Jeffro or bluffer as you call him pay it off in 4 easy instalments?
Maybe offer conman it for free if he can do enough begging on the forum to try and sell you a few copies....
Do you do dishes as well? I have some old plates you can have if you come around and wash my dishes. Might even put some food on there for you....
Only conman here is you, I'm going in large on this, going in large on that, talk the talk, at you you sound tough, even try and look tough by posting that stupid tatt you have as your pic, or used to post it.
You're the one that HONESTLY doesn't have 2k, do you need a few bucks, even though you don't come across as real sharp and a bit of a smart alec, I would still be happy to loan/gift you a hundred or 2, just let me know
You're the one that HONESTLY doesn't have 2k, do you need a few bucks, even though you don't come across as real sharp and a bit of a smart alec, I would still be happy to loan/gift you a hundred or 2, just let me know
But to answer your question, yes I do do the dishes sometimes
Who am I conning exactly?
Good night Da Conman.. Sleep tight.... Maybe it will be better in the morning.
Good night Da Conman.. Sleep tight.... Maybe it will be better in the morning.
You're conning the people who read your posts about going in large, I wonder how many poor lurkers read your sh1t and follow you in because they actually believe you're actually going in large.
Its morning now Jeffro and I always sleep well. Don't forget if you need a hundred or 2, its yours, all you have to do is ask
Its morning now Jeffro and I always sleep well. Don't forget if you need a hundred or 2, its yours, all you have to do is ask
On a serious note....i know we've had this discussion before Bluffer but you really should give some thought to getting a job.......if you really haven't got 2k to your name and you love
your family as you say you do......it's time to stop messing about on here and do the responsible thing.
your family as you say you do......it's time to stop messing about on here and do the responsible thing.
Stay out of it Hartley, there is a fair chance I'll be back to the UK and being a white Anglo you won't be hard to find
Pheeeuuuuuuw 
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Today was going to be the launch date for my mounting yard views subscription service ;
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Should we postpone?
You have to laugh. The two self proclaimed punting experts who can't come up with $2K.
Gambling addicts desperate to prove their points?? Anyone who has any doubt needs to give up themselves.
Spy you needed the ask the forum moron what the WAP for this database was. That would settle its true worth surely
Gambling addicts desperate to prove their points?? Anyone who has any doubt needs to give up themselves.
Spy you needed the ask the forum moron what the WAP for this database was. That would settle its true worth surely
Aussie, BJ's posts regarding the 2k seem open to interpretation....guessing is probably a better description...imo
who else, as you understand it "can't come up with $2K."??????.......none that I can see.
who else, as you understand it "can't come up with $2K."??????.......none that I can see.
ffs Spoon you are smarter than that. Read between all the intentional attention diverting waffle.
Neither of them had the $2K.
Both absolutely desperate for affirmation, when it comes to gamblers its never hard to tell what that means
Neither of them had the $2K.
Both absolutely desperate for affirmation, when it comes to gamblers its never hard to tell what that means
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Just read it again. Guess I'm not "smarter than that".
One said he doesn't at the moment have the money to spend on a database.
The other said he bought it when he got it for nix.
Guess you see more between the lines than I see in the lines themselves.
One said he doesn't at the moment have the money to spend on a database.
The other said he bought it when he got it for nix.
Guess you see more between the lines than I see in the lines themselves.
Henry. It's flattering you tried.
Meetings continue....don't wish to pre-empt but have overheard the words "FKN TIMING!!" being repeated in there.
Think launch will be aborted till further notice.
Meetings continue....don't wish to pre-empt but have overheard the words "FKN TIMING!!" being repeated in there.
Think launch will be aborted till further notice.
Anyway I am off for Easter celebrations. I shall return in a couple of days to read the war and piece responses on this thread craving affirmation
Enjoy your Easter
Enjoy your Easter
Hope it is safe one for you aussie.....(easter roads etc)
PS "war and peace response"...(respectfully mentioned)
PS "war and peace response"...(respectfully mentioned)
Oh yes, the grammar left as soon as I opened the first beer of the day
p.s. I should also add before I depart that there is nothing wrong with not having $2K for a database at all, but when you carry on like a big shot, you need to back it up
p.s. I should also add before I depart that there is nothing wrong with not having $2K for a database at all, but when you carry on like a big shot, you need to back it up
Have a feeling bot programming ideas is not going to be our "team thingo"....how about we choose major race or two on Saturday and we agree on "in play" odds that total greater than 100% and I will (as anyone can) put into betangel "bookmaking" portal...and see if we can strike a profit.....I am happy to commit to liability of $100 (keep us in the percentage world) ...would have to be unlucky to lose more than $30.00.....given the combined smarts....would need to chose particular race or 2 early so I (or whoever) can program without loss of focus during day......hmmmm..Sydney Cup perhaps ..plenty in play fluctuations.....If I get some odds suggestions we can take further ....remember...in play....lower the odds ....increase the percentage ...eg.if 2 horses hit 2.0 (evens) then that is 50%...total 100%..rest profit ....etc etc (I know you all know)...give a common interest (thats all)
AD how do you deduce that I couldn't come up with 2K, because I got a copy of database for free? Hopefully you use better methods of deduction in your trots selection process? You must do as you have told us that those that know you, know how good you are, if that isn't desperation for affirmation then what is? Then again if I bet on SA trots of all fkn places I would be after some as well. Maybe you should call yourself South Aussie Driver, initials would then be appropriate SAD
Give me 2,000 dollars Gary "Aussie Driver" Ablett, or it proves that you don't have it. You need to prove yourself to me...
lol. Why some on here feel like they are so far above others that they feel they have a right to ask others to prove themselves is beyond me.
Even if I did only have 2 grand, I would still feel confident it would get me through the next 15 years. I mean if I can live this lifestyle for a decade starting on 3 grand, then I am sure if I pulled my head in a little I could drag 2 grand out to get me through for the best part of 2 decades....
Amusing how the hero punters feel they are somehow making a point by trying to belittle others for having less money than them when all it really shows, if it were even true, is that they are a much more efficient punter that doesn't need to tie up a huge bankroll to make it full time.
But then, these people have their head so far up their own ass, it is very difficult for them to see anything apart from their own siht....
lol. Why some on here feel like they are so far above others that they feel they have a right to ask others to prove themselves is beyond me.
Even if I did only have 2 grand, I would still feel confident it would get me through the next 15 years. I mean if I can live this lifestyle for a decade starting on 3 grand, then I am sure if I pulled my head in a little I could drag 2 grand out to get me through for the best part of 2 decades....
Amusing how the hero punters feel they are somehow making a point by trying to belittle others for having less money than them when all it really shows, if it were even true, is that they are a much more efficient punter that doesn't need to tie up a huge bankroll to make it full time.
But then, these people have their head so far up their own ass, it is very difficult for them to see anything apart from their own siht....
earlycrow • April 17, 2014 10:37 PM BST
Stay out of it Hartley, there is a fair chance I'll be back to the UK and being a white Anglo you won't be hard to find
I feel i have to make one thing clear to you easycrow....Ireland is not in the U.K......it's in Ireland....
Now that's Geography for dummies taken care of....i shall await with great anticipation for your wonderful reports of your trip.......one piece of advice though...keep going south of England....DO NOT head north....
Stay out of it Hartley, there is a fair chance I'll be back to the UK and being a white Anglo you won't be hard to find
I feel i have to make one thing clear to you easycrow....Ireland is not in the U.K......it's in Ireland....
Now that's Geography for dummies taken care of....i shall await with great anticipation for your wonderful reports of your trip.......one piece of advice though...keep going south of England....DO NOT head north....
easycrow ffs
Mr Hartley, all you have done is confused the crow, as the next time someone tells him England is in the UK, he will say, England is not in the UK its in England
Mr Hartley, all you have done is confused the crow, as the next time someone tells him England is in the UK, he will say, England is not in the UK its in England
Apr 18, 2014 -- 1:33PM, J.R.Hartley wrote:
earlycrow • April 17, 2014 10:37 PM BSTStay out of it Hartley, there is a fair chance I'll be back to the UK and being a white Anglo you won't be hard to findI feel i have to make one thing clear to you easycrow....Ireland is not in the U.K......it's in Ireland....Now that's Geography for dummies taken care of....i shall await with great anticipation for your wonderful reports of your trip.......one piece of advice though...keep going south of England....DO NOT head north....
So you are saying it is difficult to get to Ireland from Northern Ireland? And you want him to head south once he gets there, which would lead him straight into Ireland? Is Ireland not in fact smaller than Tasmania, where the UK makes up part of that?
Guessing you are asking him to be your friend?
Ahem...Geography for dummies part 2.....The U.K is made up of England,Scotland,Wales and Northern Ireland.
Ireland is in Ireland otherwise known as Eire....
Ireland is in Ireland otherwise known as Eire....
Yes, but do they not share a land border, on an island smaller than Tasmania?
Mr Hartley, it appears you have been given a geography lesson of your own, it appears that if one heads south from England, he will end up in Ireland, I to have been given a geography lesson. It appears there is nothing BJT/Jeffro/Bluffer doesn't know
spyvspy27 • April 17, 2014 12:01 PM BST
You are showing off your stupidity again, or is it ignorance, I have never ever bought a database.
Also you're better off just sticking to 2+2=5, ok Jethro Laugh
From spyvspy27 on Jan 15, 10:46AM:
He has cut the price to 2k for database, at 2k I am buying 1 even though I don't need it, just that it is super value, if you would also like a copy or a look at it, give me your email address to pass on to STS and he can send it to you and give you log in details so you cna see what it does
I know you are full of siht. That is about all I need to know Da Concon....
You are showing off your stupidity again, or is it ignorance, I have never ever bought a database.
Also you're better off just sticking to 2+2=5, ok Jethro Laugh
From spyvspy27 on Jan 15, 10:46AM:
He has cut the price to 2k for database, at 2k I am buying 1 even though I don't need it, just that it is super value, if you would also like a copy or a look at it, give me your email address to pass on to STS and he can send it to you and give you log in details so you cna see what it does
I know you are full of siht. That is about all I need to know Da Concon....
From spyvspy27 on Jan 15, 10:46AM:
He has cut the price to 2k for database, at 2k I am buying 1 even though I don't need it, just that it is super value, if you would also like a copy or a look at it, give me your email address to pass on to STS and he can send it to you and give you log in details so you cna see what it does
Thats a real con isn't it, where you can try before you buy?
I know you are full of siht. That is about all I need to know Da Concon....
Correction, you also need to know that Ireland isn't south of England What it does show though is that you're ignorant, I could have said dumb, but don't want to come across as being mean
Ps Da Concon very good
He has cut the price to 2k for database, at 2k I am buying 1 even though I don't need it, just that it is super value, if you would also like a copy or a look at it, give me your email address to pass on to STS and he can send it to you and give you log in details so you cna see what it does
Thats a real con isn't it, where you can try before you buy?
I know you are full of siht. That is about all I need to know Da Concon....
Correction, you also need to know that Ireland isn't south of England
What it does show though is that you're ignorant, I could have said dumb, but don't want to come across as being mean Ps Da Concon very good
I always thought Ireland was a mythical land where leprechauns played
poor BJT, the "horse owner" who has a share of a few hairs of a horse tail......but big notes about it endlessly......that Dothraki?
an insignificant computer nerd trying to portray himself as some tough guy, ROFLMAO, even bragged one day about his "maori mate"
jeeeezzzzz ya must be tough to be mates with a Maori, Once Was a Keyboard Warrior
an insignificant computer nerd trying to portray himself as some tough guy, ROFLMAO, even bragged one day about his "maori mate"
jeeeezzzzz ya must be tough to be mates with a Maori, Once Was a Keyboard Warrior
Never heard him big note himself in regards to any horse he has owned
You are a deadset Knob VK
You are a deadset Knob VK
Ireland is south of Northern Ireland though is it not? As I said?
VK. You have mentioned it more than I have in the last 6 months. Maori mate? Please provide quotes to prevent yourself looking like the goose you come across as.
VK. You have mentioned it more than I have in the last 6 months. Maori mate? Please provide quotes to prevent yourself looking like the goose you come across as.
As my name was mentioned here I thought I should make comment.
The database in question is extremely good and what is so good about it is the flexibility to set it up to suit your punting and the ability to have add-ons that the competition don't have. Personally, I have paid $1,000 PER MONTH for a database in the past and this one is superior to that one.
I didn't buy it because I have no need for it at the moment, but for anyone doing this game full time a database is a must IMO - whether that be this one or another one.
At 2k I think it is a steal for anyone who needs a database.
The database in question is extremely good and what is so good about it is the flexibility to set it up to suit your punting and the ability to have add-ons that the competition don't have. Personally, I have paid $1,000 PER MONTH for a database in the past and this one is superior to that one.
I didn't buy it because I have no need for it at the moment, but for anyone doing this game full time a database is a must IMO - whether that be this one or another one.
At 2k I think it is a steal for anyone who needs a database.
Hi Danehill
What is it a data base of ...? (naive)...
Cheers
What is it a data base of ...? (naive)...
Cheers
Horse racing database....essentially a very high quality formguide would be the best description tailored to suit your needs and wants.
Oh!...Thought it might of been excel spreadsheet of betfair patterns or something....Must be especially good .....GL today
It is very good, but it is also much cheaper than inferior counterparts.
Cheers, and GL to you too.
Cheers, and GL to you too.
2k for a formguide..........ffs no wonder you're all skint.
......ffs no wonder you're all skint.
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