Glenn Douglas

Inquiry into 'Talk to the Hand'on today..maybe a result ??

Was just going to say that, has to have something to do with the Talk To The hand matter. Seemed very fishy the way Glenn described it at the time

WTF u talking about talk to the Hand?

FYI

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/probe-into-the-death-in-bendigo-of-harness-racing-favourite-talk-to-the-hand/story-fni0fit3-1226751993683

Horse was a late scratching a while back then found to be dead Lloydy, investigation has been on ever since

Aussie,

U just gave yourself up again with the Multiple Logins

85 starts maybe he had had enough

Excuse me?

Tyre kicker/Aussie Driver same perosn
Easy to pick

ffs we are clearly not the same person.

Sounds like you are on the p!ss again David, might be time to go back to AA

Yes i made mistake
Its Tyre Kicker and Gunyah
Sorry Aussie to put u in that Bracket
Thought id caught him out
No Sleep Cricket all night 8am start and doing it again tonight
Can hardly keep eyes open

No worries

I'm Elsu

I mean I wish I had elsu's money

No Chance

What bracket ?

LLOYDY
HAVE FARKIN TOLD YOU
ITS NOT ME!!!!!!!!

GDandEA...
6MONTHS each im told.

Yeah 6mnths for GD and EA

Send that caller at Mt Gambier.. Buttigieg ? over to Ostersund he's got lengths on their idiot

Any chance that HRV may actually make an announcement on the matter?

http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=22984

Buried the horse with asbestos piping.......as you do.

after reading ALL the charges...
how could you only get 6months???
unbelievable 

just posted on the other chat the 15 years given to trainer buttercup. this looks like a very serious but only 6 months?

given them 2-3 years and you will never ever have this problem australia wide ever again. 

the buttercup result in nsw wipes him out for good and will stop a lot of trainers cold pushing the boundaries.

Unbelievable, there is no other word for it

Talk about not getting flogged for a dead horse

What do you have to do to get 7 months?????  Mind boggling.

amazingly douglas and anderson are appealing. somehow they must think they are hard done by :)

Ivan Milat appealed

Lets hope they appeal and get the right penalty

HRV to appeal the time also.
they want more.

Here is a question for Vic form students. Did you notice any drop off in form of the Douglas team after the incident ?

A leading trainer here in SA, had one die a year or so ago and he went from having one of the best strike rates in the state, to hardly training a winner these days.

LH  ??

LH  ??

No. Trains down the South East and buys a lot of expensive horses.

PM me if you can't work it out.

I'm hoping everyone can work that out!

Yes, Castiron, stable form definitely went downhill across the board. Of course there were potentially other contributing factors also such as Darryl's exit as stable driver

joyce .....? or that pig of a thing better known as elephant woman or the gobbler?

douglas appealing. that is very funny. he needs his lungs checked too for mesopotamia

theres an unscrupulous story about anderson/douglas from a few years ago that i had a hard time believing but now after this not so much - cant possibly post it as the original story already contains enough threats from lawyers and defamation proceedings

I like Glen,
Seems Hard Working trainer
Runs the horses everywere.
He will bounce back

Has he ever been to Mongolia?

If there was a meeting on im sure he would put his horses in then ace next day at Boort.
Just read the live on $1.25 a day and has Worst Air Pollution in th world. It all Comes from China

I was reading about this in today's paper and I just can't get my head around it. His horse died so he buried it on the side of the road and then didn't tell anyone about it. Why? was he worried there would be an autopsy? Was he worried about what an autopsy might discover? Who owned the horse? What do they think about what happened? Why has the vet acted shifty in all this?

What Paper?

Sun Herald.

Chris Roots.

the owner was involved in the saga too DA. i think the answer to some of your other questions would be yes.

actually maybe not the owner of that particular horse, but the owner of the stable

Sorry to be a Pest, What day and if possible Page number
Trying to look online
All i could read about was how Edelstone lost 20k on some stupid dress, Hinch, The plane that is missing

This is all I can find online.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/horseracing/penalties-for-talk-to-the-hand-death-in-bendigo-20140308-34dvi.html?skin=text-only

better still Lloydy,
listen 2 Shane Anderson talk 2 J Anderson,
rns podcast friday 7th on racing ahead.
first story.

thank me later..

I think if the answer to any of the questions is yes then the ban should be lifetime. The whole thing is disgusting.

also 4 you da.

thats RSN racing and sport..  927

I'll tell you what though. If he ever gets disqualified as a horse trainer he's got a big future as a landscape gardener. Any cnnt that can dig a hole big enough to put a dead horse in must be some kind of labouring machine!!

4 Lloydy.

da think they use a tractor  m8 

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The Herald-Sun has the 'News' a week after the event.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/harness-racing-owner-and-trainer-banned-from-sport-for-six-months-after-investigation-into-sudden-death-of-horse-talk-to-the-hand/story-fnibcaa0-1226850783614

Jon Kaila
Herald Sun
March 11, 2014 12:01AM

A HARNESS racing owner and a trainer, both among Australia’s most prolofic, have been banned from the sport for six months following an investigation into the sudden death of horse Talk To The Hand.

Former trucking magnate Eric Anderson and leading trainer Glenn Douglas pleaded guilty to six and 10 charges respectively, admitting they had lied about euthanising the horse minutes before a race.

In a bizarre twist, it has been revealed the fan favourite horse was buried in secret with asbestos piping, “actions which inhibited the extent of the post-mortem autopsy conducted upon the horse,” a Harness Racing Victoria (HRV) board hearing found.

The 11-time winner was due to compete in the 2150 metre race two at Bendigo on August 21 last year at 7pm, but was scratched at 6.34pm after arriving at the track and becoming unwell.

Talk To The Hand was put down at the track by vet Dr Sarah Jalim, who has been banned from providing vet services at harness courses for the next year.

“Its health quickly deteriorated... before the horse was euthanised,” the hearing stated.

“The fact that the horse was euthanised was not brought to the attention of the attending HRV Stewards on the night by Mr Douglas, Mr Anderson or Dr Jalim.”

The Herald Sun understands Dr Jalim came forward the next day to tell stewards Talk To The Hands had been put down on a float at the track.

Anderson and Douglas both admitted telling lies about the horse leaving the Bendigo track alive and being found dead the next morning.

Nobody asked why they did all this?????????????????????

There must be a very limited number of possibilities.  If you refuse to answer stewards questions surely you should get life.  None of this 6 months &#^@.

What about the Dumping of Abestos that should be huge

Amazingly, the horse was buried near Robinvale, over 300 kilometers from the Bendigo track & the Douglas stables.

so many questions out of this, no answers?

Isn't that the norm for HRV. So many questions and no answers !

harness racing is magnificent sport

The Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal (VCAT) today heard the stay applications of trainer/driver Mr Glenn Douglas and licensed stablehand/registered owner Mr Eric Anderson with regard to the 6 month disqualifications imposed upon them by the Harness Racing Victoria (HRV) Racing Appeals and Disciplinary (RAD) Board on 5 March 2014 concerning various charges issued against them under the Australian Rules of Harness Racing (ARHR).

Senior Member R. Davis of the VCAT heard submissions from the legal representative of Mr Douglas and Mr Anderson and submissions from the legal representative of the HRV Stewards who opposed the granting of a stay to either Mr Douglas or Mr Anderson.

Senior Member R. Davis, in deciding to grant a stay to both Mr Douglas and Mr Anderson, announced that he did not consider the community interest would be disadvantaged if a stay is granted.

The penalties imposed by the HRV RAD Board are therefore stayed until such time as the review applications are heard and determined by the VCAT.  The hearing of these reviews has been scheduled for hearing over 3 days commencing 9 April 2014.  The applications of the HRV Stewards, who have also lodged an application for review of the penalties imposed, on the grounds the penalties imposed by the HRV Rad Board were inadequate, will also be heard on 9 April 2014.

6 months is an absolute joke. And now a stay of proceedings. Get the HKJC involved. Clearly HRV have no idea how to handle alleged (and I use the term loosely) drug cheats.

Can anyone tell me how many winners this stable has had since they got the stay?
Any how many runners?

http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=22984

Mr Glenn Douglas
Mr Glenn Douglas pleaded guilty to 10 charges issued by HRV Stewards


The particulars of Charge 2 were that Mr Douglas, when interviewed by HRV Stewards on 21 August 2013 regarding the welfare and late scratching of ‘Talk To The Hand’, falsely advised that the horse had been treated and taken home to be monitored when Mr Douglas was aware the horse had been euthanized.

The particulars of Charge 3 were that Mr Douglas contacted the Stewards on 22 August 2013 and falsely advised a HRV Steward that ‘Talk To The Hand’ had returned alive to his property after being removed from the Bendigo racecourse when in fact the horse had been euthanized.

The particulars of Charge 4 were that Mr Douglas contacted the Stewards on 22 August 2013 and falsely advised that he had checked on the condition of ‘Talk To The Hand’ a number of times during the night of 21 August 2013 and found the horse’s condition to have improved when in fact Mr Douglas was aware the horse had been euthanized

The particulars of Charge 6 were that Mr Douglas falsely advised a HRV Steward by telephone on 22 August 2013 that ‘Talk To The Hand’ had returned alive to his property from the Bendigo harness racing meeting on 21 August 2013.

The particulars of Charge 9 were that Mr Douglas, when interviewed by HRV Stewards on 22 August 2013 regarding the circumstances surrounding the sudden death of ‘Talk To The Hand’, falsely advised that the horse was seen eating and drinking after it had become unwell at the Bendigo racecourse and was alive at his property on the night of 21 August 2013 when Mr Douglas was aware that the horse had been euthanized.

That's what the capital A must stand for on the colours

ASBESTOS

Last Sunday night the stable had 3 runners in the claimer - All claimed - Not sure by whom. Seems most unusual to me. VCAT hearing starts tomorrow.

Looks like they're having a clean out. An organised one !

A few not racing under his name.
And none in Mildura Cup a Race he loves to win

Highly unusual to have all his horses claimed on the one night especially when they have gone around week after week with no interest. The bona fides of the claimants should be a HRV integrity priority considering the timing with the VCAT hearing on Wednesday

I nearly Claimed 2 of them for Adelaide.
Couldnt get a Trainer all wanted 70/30

70/30 is tough but you can't make money taking them on the halves

2 of them where$1000 each

http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=23270

Decision to be handed down on Monday.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/nixon-judged-one-of-the-best-20100624-z3b9.html

What Judges do after retirement....Judge (former ?) presiding over VCAT  hearing

70% of prize money from a $1000 horse is 0

douglas team have had 1 winner since March 10 all his horses have gone backwards

VCAT review hearing today - 6 months penalty stands for both Glenn & Eric.

The numerous good references they received from BBQ's Galore and James Hardie meant that the original penalties stood

Was the horse's corpse ever tested forensically to find out what caused the horse to be euthenized and also did GD ever say why he lied in the first place to stewards...see my previous quote of the charges (21 Mar 14 21:50)

The disqualification will pass but the stigma will remain for Douglas.

Exactly Lets
What would Douglas have to do to get 12 months?

Probably something Cramp has done 10 times over.

Will both end up in a coffin together

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